A disappointed bridemaid . . .

Going by the few examples I'd go with user error rather than a problem with the camera
 
Pathetic. No doubt after the attention (compo?)

If you spend £40 on a camera you can't expect to record fantastic images of the trip of a lifetime!

Does she know how to use a camera? (or did whichever random person she gave the camera to, to take the pics?)

Did she dial in any +EV? (is the camera even customisable?) Any fill flash?
 
She didn't even set the date on the camera (note the date stamps on the photo) - probably thought that the camera would miraculously do that for her too.
 
some classic quotes there like

"luckily a freind of mine is a proffesional photographer so we go some great shots" - shame she didnt get his advice about a camera or how to use it

"it was originally £80 so we thought it would be a good one " - yeah um okaaay

"After making sure the settings were correct, Kirsty kept her camera with her at all times " - maybe someone should have mentioned that setting change

end of the day those cameras are crap (what do you expect for 40 quid), but most of the shots are user error - If I were going to splash out on a trip to rio i'd buy a decent camera (even if it was a compact) and learn to use it before i went

we've got a kyocera (essentially the same thing) £40 digital at work - we use it for tree and cliff surveys in the rain on the basis that if it gets f***ed it doesn't really matter - picture quality is pretty basic but you can still get a correctly exposed shot if you know what you are doing.
 
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Who cares?
Just pictures.
 
viv1969 said:
Who cares?...
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Maybe Argos, with any bad press?

There'll no doubt be a social media outrage :mad: there will be petitions :banghead: demonstrations :rage:. It may even be discussed in parliament! :rolleyes:
 
big soft moose said:
some classic quotes there like

"luckily a freind of mine is a proffesional photographer so we go some great shots" - shame she didnt get his advice about a camera or how to use it

"After making sure the settings were correct, Kirsty kept her camera with her at all times " - maybe someone should have mentioned that setting change
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If only he'd told her to keep it set to P for Professional. ;)
 
OldCarlos said:
Maybe Argos, with any bad press?

There'll no doubt be a social media outrage :mad: there will be petitions :banghead: demonstrations :rage:. It may even be discussed in parliament! :rolleyes:
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I won't see any social media outrage
Nor sign a petition.
Nor demonstrate.
I might have learned to use the camera to it's potential before such a trip though.
Or chucked a few quid at a better camera.
 
To be fair,
OldCarlos said:
Pathetic. No doubt after the attention (compo?)

If you spend £40 on a camera you can't expect to record fantastic images of the trip of a lifetime!

Does she know how to use a camera? (or did whichever random person she gave the camera to, to take the pics?)

Did she dial in any +EV? (is the camera even customisable?) Any fill flash?
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While I agree, most people who buy a compact would not know what EV is... most would just stick on auto and snap away. My son used to use the old Sony 7.2mp camera from 2005 and would get decent images at the age of 4, so would suspect that the camera did have a fault, but why you would not check that before using is beyond me!
 
Looking at the selling site reviews this is one dire little camera. Appears that shutter lag is significant and the LCD screen is useless in bright sunshine. But surely chimping over drinks in the evening would have hinted at how poor they were........perhaps she persisted in the hope they would improve?

Sadly the sort of camera that sells to the inexperienced but needs good skills to get the limited best out of it. I would not give that one to anyone I know!

As for the bride in the article and the above posts of which +1 on them, it mentioned s her day job........if she is so poor in her method of buying a camera would you hire her?
 
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I was thinking just that. Hmmm so she is a web designer but doesn't know how to operate a compact camera, nor checks the rear screen. Something not right here at all.

Ah well, I guess £80 gets you a good website ;)
 
viv1969 said:
I might have learned to use the camera to it's potential before such a trip though.
Or chucked a few quid at a better camera.
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either or ? if she had spent 10 times as much on a camera what difference would that make if she was as clueless?
 
KIPAX said:
either or ? if she had spent 10 times as much on a camera what difference would that make if she was as clueless?
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Who really cares though?
"Person takes crappy holiday snaps then whines about it".
It's a non-story.
 
viv1969 said:
Who really cares though?
"Person takes crappy holiday snaps then whines about it".
It's a non-story.
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I agree in essence but she's made enough of a point about it to whine to the National press.

To me this is no different to the stories you get of someone sitting on the roof of their car that's stuck in a ford/river pointing angrily at the sat nav that told them to do it :lol:
 
viv1969 said:
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why do you think anyone cares.. its interesting enough for a few people to comment on as you can see... nothing wrong with that is there? even you seem to care enough to join in.... bit ironic really as you seem to have posted in this thread more than most :)
 
viv1969 said:
Who really cares though?
"Person takes crappy holiday snaps then whines about it".
It's a non-story.
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I have to say i agree with you, firstly you always check a camera when you buy one before using it for something special, secondly, in her line of work i find it hard to believe she's completely clueless.

There seems to be a lot of these kind of posts lately on fb
 
Russ77 said:
I agree in essence but she's made enough of a point about it to whine to the National press.

To me this is no different to the stories you get of someone sitting on the roof of their car that's stuck in a ford/river pointing angrily at the sat nav that told them to do it :LOL:
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Well it's always handy to enlist the help of a red top rag when looking for a payout :-)
 
Can't understand how/why a national rag would even publish the story tbh?

Another point, surely she & her new hubby would have plenty of better pics taken on their phones/I-pads, so presume the whole (blown out of proportion) story is...........she aint happy with her choice of cheap camera & wants to blame someone else & get a refund (+ a bit of social media notoriety :rolleyes: )

Hope it backfires tbh.
 
It wouldn't surprise me if they know someone at the paper desperate for a story ;) I've been approached too many times by my neighbour in the past who was a journalist to come up with something. Was always good for a nice meal out with plenty of drink :)
 
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its the daily mirror... 3rd place behind the metro and daily fail ( sorry mail ) for pointless crap stories while pretending to be journalistic.
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AND the Mail. :rolleyes:

I really do hope Argos don't pander to her & give a refund!
 
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Id like to see a representative from Argos take the camera back, then use it for a month to show that it is possible for someone who knows what they are doing to get properly exposed, sharp shots. Then charge this person for wasiting everyones time.
 
After making sure the settings were correct, Kirsty kept her camera with her at all times and took more than 300 shots
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So she set the "settings" once and didn't change them after that ? :D

I'm guessing she thought she was good, and put it on P for professional, when in fact she should have used A for amateur.
Or even "M" for Mmmmm I wonder what this does? :D
 
Nikon_Nick said:
Id like to see a representative from Argos take the camera back, then use it for a month to show that it is possible for someone who knows what they are doing to get properly exposed, sharp shots. Then charge this person for wasiting everyones time.
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Really? I would say that any p&s should get better results than that on auto setting so while her skills may be lacking, the images should be better.
 
cambsno said:
Really? I would say that any p&s should get better results than that on auto setting so while her skills may be lacking, the images should be better.
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really - how many cheap compacts can correctly expose a shot when its taken straight into the light (even a DSLR on full auto will under expose the subjects - this is why we have fill flash / reflectors

how many can decide what the subject is and focus on it when the subject isn't under a focus point

how many include antishake at the £80 price point
 
The one on the balcony looks (on my rubbish work monitor) correctly focused but is underexposed because it's backlit. Common problem, easily solved if you know what you're doing. Might be rescuable (for snapshot standards) in PP I'd have thought?

The others : I can't believe any modern camera sold today - at an price point - would miss focus that consistently on static objects. My rubbish 4MP Canon from times of yore could get perfectly OK shots (albeit low resolution). Looking at reviews on Amazon, she's not alone in having problems with this camera. It's rocking a 2.5* average - that should be ringing alarm bells.
 
Two things have struck me about this....... If she was soooooo intent on getting "great shots" of a trip of a lifetime why did she:

1) Only spend £40 on a camera
2) Only buy the camera a few days before hand

This is similar to those that spend £30K on a wedding and then go "Ut oh! We didn't think about a photographer and now we don't have any money. Oh look, there's a photographer here that will shoot the whole wedding for £200 and give us all the photos on the disc..... how can they be so much different to this one that wants £1500?" and then bleats to the press that the photographer ruined their big day.
 
Llamaman said:
The one she bought!
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How many include antishake that actually stops camera wobble being an issue ? - the AS in these cheap compacts is good for a stop at best, its not the same as the canon/nikon four stop IS/VR
 
Llamaman said:
Looking at reviews on Amazon, she's not alone in having problems with this camera. .
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thing is its mediocre performance is what you expect from a 40 quid camera - a lot of the negative reviews are tantamount to buying a Kia Picanto then complaining that its not capable of a 10sec 1/4 mile ... end of the day you get what you pay for
 
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