A couple of Adobe CC workflow question. Working with LR and PS together

Raptor Mike

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I shall try to explain this as best I can. If you need clarification please ask, I'm not good at explaining things.

I start working on an image in LR and then if I feel it needs more (spot removal, cloning, curves etc) I then take it into PS, make the adjustments and save as a TIFF so I keep all my layers. However, sometimes I find I need to make a little more adjustments in LR afterwards (normally clarity).

Bearing in mind that if you tweak in LR after PS you need two files, one of the PS TIFF in case a layer needs adjustment after crit, a copy that's been tweaked in LR after PS, it get more complicated if you've done the following: Made adjustments in LR - Import and adjust in PS - Make some extra tweaks in LR - Get some critique that then means going back into PS.

My questions are how do you keep track where the last adjustments were made to the image? And if you make tweaks in LR after PS is there a way of keeping all your layers should you want to open in PS later?

At the moment I am using a colour code in LR but wondered if there is a better way. I normally save my edited files in a separate folder too.
 
Good question. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread.

I've just worked on a self portrait and moved it to PS to whiten the background. It's a right pain now having it in Lightroom as a new file and showing none of the previous LR tweaks I'd made! :mad:

EDIT: Unless I'm being dense, which is entirely possible!
 
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You are trapping yourself in an
insane memory hungry and cumbersome workflow!

This way, one keeper will be saved as tiff (heavy MB count) in
possibly a few versions, then published in jpg…
One single keeper, say +/- 20MB RAW, and hundreds of MB of
processed files…
All this needs to be stored and you should remember all that was
done? …on which file? and… Insane!

The way I understand it and with the tools I use, post-production makes
a lot more sense and fun!
 
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Kodiak Qc said:
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You are trapping yourself in an
insane memory hungry and cumbersome workflow!

This way, one keeper will be saved as tiff (heavy MB count) in
possibly a few versions, then published in jpg…
One single keeper, say +/- 20MB RAW, and hundreds of MB of
processed files…
All this needs to be stored and you should remember all that was
done? …on which file? and… Insane!

The way I understand it and with the tools I use, photography makes
a lot more sense and fun!
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Exactly, hence my question ;)
 
Raptor Mike said:
Ahh yes, of course. But the question remains the same (y)
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I generally create the TIFF in LR via the "edit in" option, do the edits in photoshop, save (so the saved changes appear back in LR) and continue in LR.

I'm struggling to see what you mean by "how do you keep track where the last adjustments were made to the image". The most recent version of the image exists in LR as a TIFF (assuming any changes from PS were saved). If you need to re-edit, you then use the "edit in" dialog again but this time edit the original (TIFF) rather than created a new TIFF.
 
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Raptor Mike said:
Is this what you mean? Sorry.
Right click > Edit In > Photoshop CC
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UaeExile said:
Sorry, I don't know where you're going with this....
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When you click "edit it", there's a dialog that pops up asking if to create a copy or create a copy with LR adjustments. If you select that one, it'll create the TIFF with all your adjustments done in LR and then you go from there.
 
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Do you mean, you edit the raw file, then make a tiff, then make more adjustments to the raw file and expect it to show in the TIFF?

Not sure this can be done. (maybe possible and very clever if it does).
 
Broric said:
When you click "edit it", there's a dialog that pops up asking if to create a copy or create a copy with LR adjustments. If you select that one, it'll create the TIFF with all your adjustments done in LR and then you go from there.
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andyscott said:
Do you mean, you edit the raw file, then make a tiff, then make more adjustments to the raw file and expect it to show in the TIFF?

Not sure this can be done. (maybe possible and very clever if it does).
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You have a point, maybe I'm expecting too much. So basically if you want to go into PS after tweaking the PS Tiff in LR you either loose the layers or the last LR tweaks?

Broric said:
I generally create the TIFF in LR via the "edit in" option, do the edits in photoshop, save (so the saved changes appear back in LR) and continue in LR.

I'm struggling to see what you mean by "how do you keep track where the last adjustments were made to the image". The most recent version of the image exists in LR as a TIFF (assuming any changes from PS were saved). If you need to re-edit, you then use the "edit in" dialog again but this time edit the original (TIFF) rather than created a new TIFF.
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As for keeping track I have been saving my images as a different name and putting them in an 'Edited (insert genre)' folder from PS but I haven't been moving files that have only been edited in LR to the respective folder. So is it best to just hit save in PS and do all renaming and moving in LR?
 
You don't lose anything, but once you convert to TIFF, everything after that has to be done on the TIFF, whether in LR or PS. The TIFF can still be edited in LR and assuming you've used LR to create it in the first place (via the "edit in" option) it'll stay attached to the original RAW file.

If you just save in PS, those saved changes will be applied to the TIFF that exists in your LR catalog and using LR to manage the files is what it's for.
 
Broric said:
You don't lose anything, but once you convert to TIFF, everything after that has to be done on the TIFF, whether in LR or PS. The TIFF can still be edited in LR and assuming you've used LR to create it in the first place (via the "edit in" option) it'll stay attached to the original RAW file.

If you just save in PS, those saved changes will be applied to the TIFF that exists in your LR catalog and using LR to manage the files is what it's for.
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If you readjust in LR and do need to go into PS you can't get your layers back. I've though if I did redajust in LR I would need a new file so I dont loose those layers incase I need to go back to that stage of the edit. BUT you have pointed out the edit in options box asks which one you want to edit removing the need for the two files... if that makes sense lol.

For some printing I prefer PS to LR. To get the lates edit I should always load into PS via LR, not the 'Open' option in PS, right?
 
Raptor Mike said:
You have a point, maybe I'm expecting too much. So basically if you want to go into PS after tweaking the PS Tiff in LR you either loose the layers or the last LR tweaks?
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Yeah I think the TIFF wont be adjusted by anymore RAW adjustments, but you can open the TIFF via lightroom, edit more in PS and save again and it will show and you can print from LR. Once you have a TIFF, the RAW bits are fixed AFAIK
 
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