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just watched a documentary about 911 - we didn't get told everything did we? there seems to be a lot of questions that have not been answered :suspect:
 
Jamesbuk said:
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The size of the hole in the side of the pentagon not matching that of a passenger jet plane, plus lack of debris that would have been shorn away.

I seem to remember the above was just one of the highlighted discrepencies. I also recall some expert debunking it too. The truth will out one day...
 
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the eye witness descriptions of the planes and the videos of the planes not matching what they were meant to be - the pod underneath and the flash before impact - the "downing" of one of the other buildings, with explosives in a way that could only have been planned before....:eek:

the stuff about the pentagon - lack of video - are you kidding the building had cameras everywhere...
 
Hang on :thinking: Shouldn't your post count have just gone up to 912. TP conspiracy theories intertwined with the pentagon.


Make that 913
 
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singlespeed said:
How about that for coincidence===> post count :eek:
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Thats nothing to do with coincidence - theres government interference with the forum that makes sure these things look right....or else it is all coincidence and no master plan to hide the facts and Marcel et al do not work for any intelligence gathering organisation.

Either way, the facts are either right now, else we are very unlikely to hear anything different ever. Why worry, they say that a war is good for the economy, especially if you are in the defence supply industry.

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Post count doesnt update in out of focus ;)

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Surely that video alone debunks the whole 'it was a missile' thing? also in a state of panic how reliable can a eye witness report be? and the flashes.. well it was a sunny day right? and the american airlines aircraft are polished aluminum which shine alot in the sun, well as do most aircraft really as the paint isnt 'normal' paint, which allows aircraft so still be relatively shiny.
 
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sportysnaps said:
just watched a documentary about 911 - we didn't get told everything did we? there seems to be a lot of questions that have not been answered :suspect:
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There are always going to be massive conspiracy theories with ever major happening in the world. I do agree there are a number of inaccuracies from the 'evidence' collated and shown to the world so far. :suspect:
 
Tulipone said:
Marcel et al do not work for any intelligence gathering organisation.


Chris
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I think the chance of Marcel having anything at all to do with Intelligence is very unlikely :shrug:








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sdb123 said:
There are always going to be massive conspiracy theories with ever major happening in the world. I do agree there are a number of inaccuracies from the 'evidence' collated and shown to the world so far. :suspect:
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The US authorities even went as far as to deny that anyone jumped from the twin towers....
 
i heard that the twin towers collapsed from two planes hitting them
 
cmon really? this is right up there with the moon landings being faked.
 
lol @ you guys...
 
hepburn said:
yep. we all know the moon is really a giant orb residing in the american desert! :D
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Nooooo, I was so sure it was floating around in space :'(

Did not have the tv on tonight so I didn't see it, but I suppose there are a hell of a lot of things about 9/11 and a lot of other plots or incidents that we are highly unlikely ever to be told all the facts.
 
susie said:
Nooooo, I was so sure it was floating around in space :'(
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You can bet your bottom dollar it is american space :lol:

susie said:
Did not have the tv on tonight so I didn't see it, but I suppose there are a hell of a lot of things about 9/11 and a lot of other plots or incidents that we are highly unlikely ever to be told all the facts.
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Was it on telly tonight? My recollection is from the movie Michael Moore made and released. Sadly it was shortly afterwards I returned from living stateside so I didn't see all the controversy the movie created. However I did hear from a number of friends who regaled tales of how police were blocking the movie and protests outside. They also accounted of increased fbi/homeland security surveillance both inside and outside movie theatres during screenings.

I doubt the public will ever learn the truth in their lifetimes, but suffice to say if there has been government involvement in any of the attrocities we attribute to terrorist then they should be ashamed.
 
hepburn said:
You can bet your bottom dollar it is american space :lol:
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hepburn said:
Was it on telly tonight? My recollection is from the movie Michael Moore made and released. Sadly it was shortly afterwards I returned from living stateside so I didn't see all the controversy the movie created. However I did hear from a number of friends who regaled tales of how police were blocking the movie and protests outside. They also accounted of increased fbi/homeland security surveillance both inside and outside movie theatres during screenings.

I doubt the public will ever learn the truth in their lifetimes, but suffice to say if there has been government involvement in any of the attrocities we attribute to terrorist then they should be ashamed.
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From the OP it sounded as if it was tonight.

I really hope that one day a lot of tthe information is released, but as you say I doubt it will be in our lifetimes.
 
susie said:
I really hope that one day a lot of tthe information is released, but as you say I doubt it will be in our lifetimes.
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Sadly true. Didn't Jack Straw recently impose some extra restrictions on the release dates of info pertaining to our involvement in the Iraq war? I think it means all of the labour government of that time will be long dead and buried before the info is released. :(

Just as an aside, and not wishing to invoke political debate, I'm watching a DVD of the first series of Yes Minister. In two of the episodes they are discussing the "National Database" and a "Europass" (ID card). Funny how what was comedy all those years ago is reality now... :suspect:
 
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Ever wonder why we didn't get to see the real human awfulness, the splat shots? I've searched in the past, to confirm that an uber-thorough sanitization job was ongoing. Tonight I found this:

A word about news photography..

Photographers take pictures of the horrific, knowing their ed. will never use them, and turn them in for reassurance that the story that will be run about the event is true. They shoot for their editor, and they have shots that the ed. can use. They switch into a purely business mode of getting the shot at any cost.

The photog that said he didn't want to take pictures of someone on fire is lying. It is as instinctive as anything I can imagine.

USAToday reported approx 250 jumpers. Naudet film showed crew in the lobby hearing loud crashes, coming from the other side of large plate glass windows. Just with those 2 sentences there's all sorts of problems that come up for me. That Naudet didn't walk over and take a shot outside the windows? That he was content to just capture audio?

Then the 250 jumper claim, almost all from the wtc1 all 4 sides, in an hour. I guarantee you there would have been journalists that would have found a position, no matter how many cops were around to get the splat shots, as well as closer falling shots than what we have. I know that sounds crude, but there is a bit of paparazzi in every photog. amateur as well as for hire. And no such photos have ever surfaced.

What I personally saw was maybe 6 falling dots, distance. They could have been mailbags for all I know. But just like French impressionists, a dab of paint here and there, and you have a picture-story. Their later comments of not continuing showing the jumpers was convenient, but unlikely. So the next day, they ran "Falling Man" in every paper in the world.

Fakery has at least 2 forms, insertions, or animations or cartoons. or both combined.

(In these cases you've also got to ask the questions how tri-pod sharp shots were taken in a moving helipcopter? Where were the photos taken?)

http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=2857&st=90
 
So, because the cameraman didn't rush outside and film people being splattered all over the pavement you're maintaining no-one jumped?

By that logic there were no gas chambers in WW II, as we don't have any film of people being dragged screaming to their death...

When Pan Am flight 103 came down over Lockerbie, there were bodies (some still strapped in their seats) and body parts in trees and over a huge area. There ARE photographs of this in existence, but they have never been published.

Just because there aren't horrific images of death and destruction plastered all over the papers or internet doesn't mean it hasn't happened, or that the pictures don't exist....
 
Ashers said:
i heard that the twin towers collapsed from two planes hitting them
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yep thats what the program said -and took the time to show that that was the case, and no it did not say that it was a missile, i have not seen any of the other films relating to this


cmon really? this is right up there with the moon landings being faked.
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not realy - who cares if we did go to the moon or not (i think we did) thousands of peple were not killed were they?
 
The first moon landings were faked, and 9/11 was a sick government plot.

That's what I think anyway :shake:
 
sportysnaps said:
not realy - who cares if we did go to the moon or not (i think we did) thousands of peple were not killed were they?
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Nor was it an excuse for war.
 
Flash In The Pan said:
So, because the cameraman didn't rush outside and film people being splattered all over the pavement you're maintaining no-one jumped?

By that logic there were no gas chambers in WW II, as we don't have any film of people being dragged screaming to their death...

When Pan Am flight 103 came down over Lockerbie, there were bodies (some still strapped in their seats) and body parts in trees and over a huge area. There ARE photographs of this in existence, but they have never been published.

Just because there aren't horrific images of death and destruction plastered all over the papers or internet doesn't mean it hasn't happened, or that the pictures don't exist....
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Thank you, a bit of common sense at last. I watched a documentary about The Falling Man some time ago which was a tragic story and for people to say it didn't happen is an insult to the people who made the awful decision to jump and their families. I can think of plenty of reasons why there were no 'splat' shots - shock for one, what you have to remember this was a unique attack both in magnitude and execution and I would have thought that many members of the press were stunned at the scale of the drama unfolding in front of them, they would also have been busy getting many other shots as well. Thirdly, do we know how many cameramen/photographers will killed when the towers collapsed? There is a good chance that quite a few would have been killed when they came down and any images they might have taken would also have been lost.

As to those who propagate the conspiracy theories, step back for a minute and really examine what you are saying. This was a terrorist attack that changed the course of the world - nothing more, nothing less.
 
matty said:
cmon really? this is right up there with the moon landings being faked.
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I don't think so, when you look into it this is a lot less absurd :p

From my limited knowledge of this (quite a few documentaries both putting forward and denying the conspiracies), it seems that there was certainly something odd going on, and we certainly didn't get the full story.

For instance, all US planes grounded except for the special flights flying the Bin Laden out of America? Wtf?

The most important thing is not to solely rely on the mainstream media for information. You should always have many diverse sources. That's the best way to get an idea of the truth, in my opinion :shrug:
 
They were beamed up by the Asguard. Haven't you seen those documentaries on Stargate?
 
Flash In The Pan said:
They were faked though ;)
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Please tell me you don't honestly believe that!!

The only problem I have with the 911 attacks is the pentagon impact - there is far too little wreckage for that to have been a plane, surely? I'm not suggesting that it's a hoax or something but even if it was a missile or somesuch it's not that hard to think that some terrorists could get their hands on one?
As regards the twin towers (and the other tower that fell which I cannot remember the name of) I'm in no doubt that it was the terrorist attack that caused it.
 
Well I for one hope that it was as stated
Although these atrocities are really unimaginable
just consider that fact "what type of government would do that to its own country?" and IF they are capable
of doing that to its own people what other "things" are they capable of around the world?
It doesn't really bare thinking about!
 
what sort of hole did people expect in the side of the pentagon, a perfect 757 shaped punch in the wall (i cant help but think of shouting 'BRING ON THE WALL' at this moment)
 
Syx said:
Please tell me you don't honestly believe that!!
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Please don't tell me you really do believe it :lol:

Leaving aside the glaring photographic anomalies from the alleged landings , you'd think if they were able to go to the moon with rockets controlled by computers with less power than a modern day pocket calculator, that with all the advances in technology over the last 40 years they'd have returned at some point, rather than messing about with the International Space Station at the bottom of the garden...

You have to put the space race into the context of the time in history when it happened. The Russians had stolen the Americans thunder by being first into space, so all that remained to restore American national pride was to be first to land a man on the Moon.

Just because something appears on television doesn't mean it's the truth......
 
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