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I just can decide which to get. My heart says 5DII due to better high ISO but my head says save £500 and get the 7D

The 7D appeals due to 1.6 crop, and fast AF so good for fast moving objects, cars, animals

The 5DII appeals due to better ISO so great for indoor shots, parties where I don't want to use the flash

In the real world and would like oppinion of users would I find the 7D to b the better all rounder concidering what I may shoot?
 
Well the question is, what do you shoot?

If you do a lot of fast moving or far away stuff (motorsport, birds/in flight etc.) the 7D is the obvious choice, but the resolution and high ISO abilities of the 5DII make it better for anything stationary/not too fast moving and not too distant.

This has been done to death in other threads, and the general conclusion is always the same.
 
IWhat about budget? Get a 7D and you'll have some cash left for a nice lens, just assuming it's your first camera.
 
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squishy said:
Well the question is, what do you shoot?

If you do a lot of fast moving or far away stuff (motorsport, birds/in flight etc.) the 7D is the obvious choice, but the resolution and high ISO abilities of the 5DII make it better for anything stationary/not too fast moving and not too distant.

This has been done to death in other threads, and the general conclusion is always the same.
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I do all sorts, party photos for friends, landscape and buildings, birds maily from a hide and the occasional motorsport

Tried doing a seach but find search engine clunky ie 7D vs 5DMKII only brings up threads with 5DMKII info.

If its been "done to death" please can you point me in that direction please
 
TJ80 said:
IWhat about budget? Get a 7D and you'll have some cash left for a nice lens, just assuming it's your first camera.
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As I said in my first post I can spend either £1000 on a 7D or £1500 on a 5DMKII

I already have various lenses :)
 
No EFS lenses
70-200 f4 IS
120-300 f2.8
15mm fisheye
24-105 f/4 IS
18-250 for holidays

So I may need a good quality 18-55 but at the mo want to keep this thread about camera bodies and not lenses
 
train01 said:
No EFS lenses
70-200 f4 IS
120-300 f2.8
15mm fisheye
24-105 f/4 IS
18-250 for holidays

So I may need a good quality 18-55 but at the mo want to keep this thread about camera bodies and not lenses
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Get the 7D then you can get the 17-55mm f2.8 is.
 
I had the 5D MK II and it was a great camera with fantastic results. You can see it ages in comparison to the 7D which has more focus points, faster FPS, but unless your shooting sport I would stick with the 5D which will give fantastic photos.
 
I've been thinking about this too, and came to the conclusion that a fairer comparison may be 5d2 v 60d as they both have similar focus abilities. The 60D has the metering and sensor of the 7d so the same image quality as the 7d therefore any comparison of image quality between 7d and 5d2 also applies to the 60d. The financial decision then becomes more compelling in favour of the 60d. Next question of course becomes 60d or 7d. Choice almost becomes as simple as "flip screen" v "high fps and focus" v "full frame".
 
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"flip screen" v "high fps and focus" v "full frame".
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Only one of those options increases image quality - and that's why people buy the 5D2....
 
Canon (rightly or wrongly) decided on two very different dedicated cameras for very different jobs.

Landscape & Portrait = 5DII
full frame loveliness
much lower pixel density - better noise handling
slower autofocus
slower fps

Sports & Wildlife = 7D
superior autofocus
crop sensor
faster fps
EF or EF-S lenses

If you want the best of both worlds then you would be looking at one of the Pro 1Ds variations.

As with any full frame body the sensor will capture an image accross the whole of the lens compared to a cropped camera sensor which only records what it 'sees' through sweet spot in the middle of the lens. Whilst a lot of mid range lenses are fine in the middle crop, the 5DII will pick up on any drop off in edge quality so top quality lenses are more of a requirement.

My view (for what it's worth) is that they both excel at their own thing but with the 7D you can turn your hand to landscapes and portraits more easily than tackling sport and wildlife with 5DII.
 
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I have both cameras. In my opinion the 5D2 beats the 7D in terms of IQ and DOF control. In all other respects the 7D is the superior camera. While on paper the 5D2 does have the IQ edge, in practice is it something you would really notice for your normal photographic needs? i.e. Unless you print/display at large sizes, could you spot the difference in the final product (rather than when pixel peeping)?

That said, because of the IQ the 5D2 is the camera I reach for first for most of my photography. There are times when I will choose the 1D3 or 7D in preference such as....

- When I know I will be focal length limited and the 7D's higher pixel density will be more useful to me than a load of wasted sensor real estate;
- When I know that the 5D2's AF, frame rate, ergonomics or build will not be up to the task.

For shooting people and landscapes it's pretty much a slam dunk for the 5D2. For sports, wildlife and action the balance tips towards the smaller sensored, faster, better featured bodies. They all have their place. I used all three at the BWC on Sunday.

Another, simpler way to look at it - I usually use the camera with the largest sensor I can fill with my subject, unless the AF or operational speed of the camera is not up to the job. Often I will take two cameras with me. That gives me more options. I can use the 5D2 for slower, wider angle shooting, or for shallow DOF portraits and also be geared up to shoot fast action with a longer lens. It may weigh a bit more, but it saves faffing about with lens changes and missing the shot, dropping a piece of equipment or getting dust in everything.
 
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5D2 is a FF, that is best reason to choose it, but you might w8 until the 5D3 launched, the price will be much cheaper
 
arad85 said:
Only one of those options increases image quality - and that's why people buy the 5D2....
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I am not disagreeing, especially with someone who lists the 7d and 5d2 in their sig ;) However my comment was that functionally the comparison should be between the 60d and 5d2. The USP of the 7d is it's focus system and higher shutter rate, the 5d2's is it's bigger sensor. If you don't need what the 7d offers then the 60d will save over £800 from the 5d2 price while giving the same image quality as the 7d.

For shooting parties the narrower dof from full frame cancels out the slightly better higher ISO performance as you may need to select a smaller aperture to maintain the same apparent dof as the crop camera, hence increasing the iso to maintain a good shutter speed.
 
Had the same dilema last year over which to get. This is a debate I've seen hundreds of times, here and on other forums. The most common comments I've seen say "different tools for different jobs", ie 7d for sports 5Dmk2 for landscapes etc.
Bottom line is what you need it for and how much you want to spend.

I wanted a good all round camera, as like Train01, I shoot different things, and I was somewhat restricted budget wise, so I got the 7D, and have not been disappointed yet. Its worked well on every situation I've thrown at it, from studio to wildlife. Sure, the 5D would prob pip it on IQ if you pixel peep, but dont peep and you'll never know!! :thumbs:
 
i had a 7d and upgraded to the 5d, i do miss the features of the 7d but the IQ is delicious from the 5d. I feel like the quality is better even without pixel peeping i have to say, but I also have better glass now. My father in law is visiting soon with his 7d so maybe i can stick the same glass on both cameras and take the same photo and see if there is any difference

of course the crop factor will come into play so it will not be an easy test
 
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