70d new releases

buckas said:
6400 is no problem, even an ISO 8000 image with a smidge of NR I've had printed in mags - anymore than that has noticeable banding
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indeed agree here!

If I can do 6400 and use it (not perfect admitted but more than useable) then a 1DX or 6D etc easily can, have seen stunning 8000 images from a 6D.

Price wise seems about right for a new canon model in the xx series, the 60D was £1000 or so brand new I think
 
Just looked over the details, seems good... but then I love my 60D. haha :D

No in all serious things and all its does look good..... but and its a big one, I may buy one eventually but at present along with many others it might not offer enough to make people want to buy as even in looks and button placement, its neary identical to a 60D even down to the top screen lcd. ( not a bad thing at all, 60D feels great)
Although interesting to see its smaller than the 60D, quite suprised by that, though it would be slightly larger as in 7D size.

But at £500 more, I wait with baited breath to see how good the new sensor is as it is bigger than the 60/7D sensor (albiet only 0.2mm and 0.1mm respectively) so should be good to see the new sensor put through its paces. :)
Can't wait though as hopefully it will be awesome ... then I may have to have a rethink. haha

*just looking through some preview sites... *

http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/02/canon-70d-hands-on/

the video does look good, seems a neat camera, and the 60D discontinued... hmm, might be time to buy another! haha

Or wait for this to come down slightly
 
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Certainly looks good, I would be happy to upgrade my 50d to it. Look forward to reading a full test.

I am going to the rutland water bird fair in august, canon always have a big display tent, hopefully they will have one on show.
 
dalegt4 said:
Price wise seems about right for a new canon model in the xx series, the 60D was £1000 or so brand new I think
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It may well have been but they are under £600 now for a new genuine UK body.
A new 7D is £1000 street.
 
michael23 said:
I am going to the rutland water bird fair in august, canon always have a big display tent, hopefully they will have one on show.
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I've been to loads of Birdfairs, I don't think I've seen Canon display anything apart from their IS binoculars.
 
heidfirst said:
It may well have been but they are under £600 now for a new genuine UK body.
A new 7D is £1000 street.
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Problem here is your point is invalid in this instance as you are quoting prices for something that is 2 and 4 or 5 years old respectively.

This is a brand new product hence my saying "when new" . :)

Everything electronic comes down over time, if it didn't then our TV's would still cost £1800 3 years from the time I purchased it... obviously it doesnt because if new technology or demand slows down then the price will come down to accomodate the new situations.
 
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dalegt4 said:
Problem here is your point is invalid.
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I disagree. They are all (or soon will be) on sale now & in many cases available funds limit people.
Of course, whilst people are working out whether the features of a 70D are worth £100 more than a 7D or £500 more than a 60D they aren't thinking "or should I just buy a Nikon?" :p
 
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Yes I agree that they are all on sale, but people don't look at new to old prices.

If they did people would never by new tv's, or cameras and there would be no market for new items.

Personally I look at things from a tight persons point of view and buy things based on what I need to do the job. haha :)

I have no arguing point over the new 70D as I have a 60D and to me its not worth the extra £500.

So my point was that the price is as it is as its respective of what their counterparts were at their opening day prices. :)
 
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heidfirst said:
I disagree. They are all (or soon will be) on sale now & in many cases available funds limit people.
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And you think the retailers (for 'tis they that decide how much of a discount on the RRP they will offer) care about those poor people. Of course not. They know that there are a lot of people out there, with more money than sense, who are desperate for the newest, shiniest, toy and will pay over the odds to be the first kid on the street (or forum) to own one.

Sensible people, however, will wait until October or thereabouts, when the retailers will have milked the fools and drop the price to something between £750 and £900.
 
Just read that it'll auto focus at f11 , huge benift for the tele+extender users.

I'll probably look to off load my 30D and 50D to help fund one of these.

Frank it's only due out September, I don't think it'll drop so much in a month, will it, but Xmas time.
 
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How did people manage to produce superb pictures years ago with such tiny MPs and ISOs? Everything is on the highest this and that! For goodness sake, when will it end? Why do people always want the camera with all the bells and whistles? Isn't photography about creativity? Shouldn't it be a bigger % of us controlling the image?
 
Raincloud said:
How did people manage to produce superb pictures years ago with such tiny MPs and ISOs? Everything is on the highest this and that! For goodness sake, when will it end? Why do people always want the camera with all the bells and whistles? Isn't photography about creativity? Shouldn't it be a bigger % of us controlling the image?
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It's all about progress and convenience, yes you could still get to your destination driving a car with a gate crash gearbox, double de-clutching, but a synchro gearbox is so much better. This looks like a dramatic step forward, but I think I will need to see the results before I pension off my 7D
 
Raincloud said:
How did people manage to produce superb pictures years ago with such tiny MPs and ISOs? Everything is on the highest this and that! For goodness sake, when will it end? Why do people always want the camera with all the bells and whistles? Isn't photography about creativity? Shouldn't it be a bigger % of us controlling the image?
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All sounds bit luddite, you'll be burning down the camera shops soon :)

Cameras are now very much on the technology train and it doesn't look like it is stopping. If you are happy to pick technology from a point in time that is good enough for you then that is great but don't hold up progress for those that aren't. Your 2009 model camera may be a bit limiting in 2019 when I am happily taking noise free shots at 1 billion ISO.
 
I am not on about going that far back! Lol

For the want a slightly better ISO and sensor and a few tweaks here and there. Is it really worth the upgrade?
 
ernesto said:
All sounds bit luddite, you'll be burning down the camera shops soon :)

Cameras are now very much on the technology train and it doesn't look like it is stopping. If you are happy to pick technology from a point in time that is good enough for you then that is great but don't hold up progress for those that aren't. Your 2009 model camera may be a bit limiting in 2019 when I am happily taking noise free shots at 1 billion ISO.
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And your shots will likely be completely uninspired and totally boring. But, of course, completely noise free! That's what's important right? :thumbs:

People have lost sense in what photography is supposed to be: an art-form.

Raincloud said:
I am not on about going that far back! Lol

For the want a slightly better ISO and sensor and a few tweaks here and there. Is it really worth the upgrade?
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No it isn't. If you're shooting with a camera that has even remotely similar specs, it is an entirely capable tool. You can get the same results with a three year old Rebel as you could with new 70D.
 
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Eddzz!! said:
And your shots will likely be completely uninspired and totally boring.
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And yours won't?

Not seeing how having super high ISO available has any bearing on whether my shots are uninspired or boring. Given the choice you would presumably be stuck with ISO 100 for all of your exciting and inspired shots?
 
I have literally just come back from a Canon launch of the 70D at one of Canons HQ's and I must say it's an impressive camera.
 
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AndyWest said:
I have literally just come back from a Canon launch of the 70D at one of Canons HQ's and I must say it's an impressive camera.
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Aren't all releases like that though? All the guff one gets off of the manufacturers. All the hype.
 
Raincloud said:
Aren't all releases like that though? All the guff one gets off of the manufacturers. All the hype.
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I think this time they have a fair bit to boast about. It is the start of the next generation of consumer / semi pro cameras.
 
acetone said:
Just read that it'll auto focus at f11 , huge benift for the tele+extender users.
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I think that may just be in Liveview mode. Which may or may not be useful depending on how fast it actually focuses in the Liveview mode. :shrug:

It seems to be a good upgrade from the 60D, and pushing the xxD range closer to the 7D, which is as it should be. The new sensor AF technology seems revolutionary, but seems to benefit videographers rather than photographers, (unless taking pics in Liveview modes) at least from initial reports. It will be interesting to see how fast it focuses in Liveview.

The buffer seems a bit stingy, but better than the D7100. ;)

Bout time the did something different than the 18mp sensor they've used for so long. ;) If it does something significant with the new tech, the wait may have been worth it.
 
AndyWest said:
I have literally just come back from a Canon launch of the 70D at one of Canons HQ's and I must say it's an impressive camera.
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Good stuff, to be fair though, contrary to popular belief amongst the forums here the 7D and 60D are still mighty impressive cameras. haha :lol:

Glad to see its a good piece of kit. :)
 
not a canon user but have been checking this out to see where the tech may go.

Seems alot of the new AF is mainly for video and does sound impressive for that. It can focus at f11 but only in live view, so should be fine for non fast moving subjects.

As for iso Canon said its performance with raw is similar to the 60d only in jpeg has it improved.
Seems canon still want to push video as much as possible, as im sure that now makes a big share of there user base.Everyone i know into film using a dslr uses canon.

heres another review
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-70d/canon-70dA.HTM
 
redhed17 said:
I think that may just be in Liveview mode. Which may or may not be useful depending on how fast it actually focuses in the Liveview mode. :shrug:
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From the AP review linked to above...
While not as fast as conventional phase detection which, of course, the EOS 70D also has, it is certainly a big improvement on contrast-detection AF.
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dalegt4 said:
Good stuff, to be fair though, contrary to popular belief amongst the forums here the 7D and 60D are still mighty impressive cameras. haha :lol:

Glad to see its a good piece of kit. :)
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Although I am planning on getting a 70D as a replacement for my 7D I'm still very impressed with the 7D. In good light and low ISO, below 800, the 7D is an excellent camera but IF I can get a camera that will do almost everything the 7D does, and maybe even better the 7D at some things (higher ISO especially) and it means I can get those crucial shots easier then I'm all for it.

As for the 60D, I was even more impressed with its IQ than I was with the 7D and I was very happy with my 60D, until I got more into shooting BIF and then I found the 60D was a bit lacking in focus points and tracking. With the 7D I usually have the 9 point spot focus for birding and the 60D couldn't do that for me so I swapped it for the next best thing.

TBH though, neither the 60D, the 7D and I doubt even the 70D will ever better my 5D3 which I use most of the time. As the 7D and 1D3 I've got at the moment are backup to my 5D3 I'd like to condense the 7d and 1D3 into 1 body for easier carrying, hence the 70D.
 
Well, if I had to do a video assignment on the run I would buy this today. My 5DIII in MF only mode is not easy for that. This will sell them a tone of these.

As a photographic only tool, I am not sure it is any further ahead of 7D... Smaller viewfinder is not going to help framing. Well, 7DII hopefully will improve the IQ one could only hope.
 
Take away the dual-pixel AF sensor, that is only useful for live view and video, and the 70D is not much more than a bunch of existing features bundled into a new model.

However, the new AF sensor suggests, for the first time IMHO, that on-sensor phase-detect AF might just be the way forward for everything in the future.

This is the missing technology for CSCs, and the only thing that is keeping DSLRs alive long term. It's not going to happen overnight (not for a few years I suspect) but a CSC that can focus as fast as a DSLR and track action, with an electronic viewfinder that's as good as optical (almost here), plus sensor-switching instead of a mechanical shutter (pretty much here) is the Holy Grail - a solid-state camera.

Looking back a few years from now, 70D might just be seen as a landmark camera.
 
this 70D has sparked my interest especially the bit about AF and video :)

a 20mp crop sensor might be an ideal replacement for the 5d 2 i have which since purchasing the 1dx has literally sat there gathering dust
i like the 5d 2 and despite what people say about it i think it's an absolute bargain for the price they are fetching on the second hand market but this 70d might just be a good alternative and put a real use back in a second body for me

this all depends on how well the 70d performs in the field so to speak :)
 
ernesto said:
And yours won't?

Not seeing how having super high ISO available has any bearing on whether my shots are uninspired or boring.
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No, they won't actually. My focus is on composition, exposure and taking wonderful images.

You on the other hand quite clearly have it all wrong. You state (though I'm sure somewhat in jest) that
ernesto said:
Your 2009 model camera may be a bit limiting in 2019 when I am happily taking noise free shots at 1 billion ISO.
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:bang:

Unless the world plunges into an infinite darkness, I don't know how my camera won't be just as good in ten years as it was on day one? People like yourself are so hung up with bloody noise reduction and pixel peeping that you completely lose sight of what photography is supposed to be about. But whatever, that's your loss.
 
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Has anyone eelse noticed that it's now listed on the canon UK site?? :)
 
Eddzz!! said:
No, they won't actually. My focus is on composition, exposure and taking wonderful images.

You on the other hand quite clearly have it all wrong. You state (though I'm sure somewhat in jest) that

:bang:

Unless the world plunges into an infinite darkness, I don't know how my camera won't be just as good in ten years as it was on day one? People like yourself are so hung up with bloody noise reduction and pixel peeping that you completely lose sight of what photography is supposed to be about. But whatever, that's your loss.
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Blimey, calm down.
I am not hung up on noise reduction or pixel peeping and the only camera I have cost me £170 (body and lens) as it is good enough for what I do (uninteresting and uninspired shots - according to you)
I am just putting forward the argument for technological advancement that is all.

Take it a bit less personally will you.
 
Eddzz!! said:
Unless the world plunges into an infinite darkness, I don't know how my camera won't be just as good in ten years as it was on day one?
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I suspect that he was talking about technological advancement and if none of us were bothered with it, we'd still be taking photos with Kodak box cameras. :lol:
 
Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude... I get carried away on this subject, as I have been victim to the 'upgrade bug' in the past - buying new gear thinking that at will make me a better photographer. I just don't like the thought of people needlessly upgrading their gear and making the same mistakes I have.
 
Eddzz!! said:
Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude... I get carried away on this subject, as I have been victim to the 'upgrade bug' in the past - buying new gear thinking that at will make me a better photographer. I just don't like the thought of people needlessly upgrading their gear and making the same mistakes I have.
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No problem. I am not a serial upgrader, I mess around at the bottom of the pile with older models that are a bargain and limit myself to around £200.

I still very much support technological advances even if I am not an early adopter (too tight!)
 
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