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Help!! I'm looking at an upgrade! I am looking to go for either the 7/5D, my use for the camera is more weddings, portraits maybe a little bit of sport but very minimal. Its mainly going to have the Canon 70-200 2.8 or canon 17-50 2.8!

Which way should I be heading?
 
Not had a 7d but i get on great with my 5d and 70-200 2.8 with limited sport use too, not much help sorry
 
I think the 17-50 is an EFs lens and therefore wont work on a FF camera like the 5D, however I could be wrong.

Weddings portrait work the 5D is better
sports the 7D rules over the 5D
 
I've had a look a both of these cameras too and I think it really starts to come down to what you want to shoot. The 5D gives you a full frame sensor which is nice and would probably be better for weddings and portraits. The 7D on the other hand is a crop sensor so will give longer reach and has much faster drive mode. To me this suggests the 7D would be better for wildlife and / or sports type photography.

I'm sure there are lots of other considerations but these were the important ones for me.
 
For me it would be a 5d but it depends on your overall usage, both would do a great job...
 
5D for image quality, can't go wrong with these for portraiture IMO. If I get a dslr again I'll get a 5D MKxx
 
Are you talking 5D or 5Dmk2?
 
17-55 won't work on a 5D/5D2.

TBH, unless you have both side by side I don't think you'll notice the difference in picture quality between the 5D and 7D as whilst the 5D has much bigger pixels, I think the processing in the 7D has come on to compensate for that. The 7D will be faster/better to use than the 5D (assuming you're talking 5DMk1) as it has better buffer, better autofocus, faster processors etc...

The advantage you will have with the full frame is the angle of view you get with FF is much bigger for any lens length. This means that the perspective you will get for a given picture will be "flatter" as you will use longer lens lengths to get the same image.
 
SnapperMatt said:
The 7D on the other hand is a crop sensor so will give longer reach and has much faster drive mode. To me this suggests the 7D would be better for wildlife and / or sports type photography.

I'm sure there are lots of other considerations but these were the important ones for me.
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Certainly cropping an image from a 7d would result in a "better" image than doing a bigger crop on a 5D image but I hear so often people saying you need a fast frame rate to do sports/wildlife, I wonder how people like Don Morley managed when 2 fps was the norm and only 36 frames per roll. Tbh frame rate isnt that important unless its a spray and pray mentality you have, timing and subject knowledge is what you really need unless you just get lucky. AF on the 7D is probably going to help though as everyone knows the AF on the 5D (and the Mk2) is rubbish (tongue firmly in cheek).
Wedding snappers seem to like the 5D a lot.
All depends on where you want to go with your photography, the 5D does produce lovely images, albeit at the expense of detail sometimes, but skin tones and colour gradation is where the 5D scores highly.

Matt
 
Would be the MK2, I think im more being pulled towards the 5D over the 7 as the high ISO's! But it's jut that much extra!!! Could do with wining some money right now lol
 
I have been considering a Mk II, but I read on one test that auto ISO cannot be limited to a set level. Is that correct? What about the 7D?
 
Yellowbelly said:
I have been considering a Mk II, but I read on one test that auto ISO cannot be limited to a set level. Is that correct? What about the 7D?
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Auto ISO not limitable on either 5D2 or 7D. Also, if you set the ISO to auto mode in Manual, on the 7D it will change the ISO to get the right exposure, on the 5D2, it just goes to 400...
 
arad85 said:
Auto ISO not limitable on either 5D2 or 7D. Also, if you set the ISO to auto mode in Manual, on the 7D it will change the ISO to get the right exposure, on the 5D2, it just goes to 400...
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Thanks Andy. So the 5D has a limiter of sorts.
 
I Have a 7D and its fantastic save your self some monye get the 7D the wedding shots i have done with mine have come out brilliant as far as the camera is concerned, if there was anything wrong with them it was my fault not the cameras.
 
Yellowbelly said:
Thanks Andy. So the 5D has a limiter of sorts.
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No. It's limited to ISO 400. No more, no less.... I.e. there is NO auto ISO in Manual mode. You can of course set the ISO, but then if the exposure changes slightly, you're pushing buttons or changing shutter/aperture.
 
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I've got a 7D and a 5DMkII and use them both regularly with a 70-200 f4 L and the IQ is excellent on both of them. I'm pretty sure with the 17-50 f2.8 and the 70-200 f2.8 you'd be able to use a 7D for weddings. Not had or tried a 5D so I'm not qualified to give you an opinion but I'm sure it would give similar results to the 5D2 if not quite as fine. The 7D and 5D2 are good in low light, so if you're in a dull church with your lenses I'm sure you wouldn't have any problems.

Just seen post 10 about 5DMkII. Can honestly say if I was shooting weddings and had to go for 1 body only it would be the 5D2.
 
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arad85 said:
No. It's limited to ISO 400. No more, no less.... I.e. there is NO auto ISO in Manual mode. You can of course set the ISO, but then if the exposure changes slightly, you're pushing buttons or changing shutter/aperture.
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I use Auto ISO most of the time. The upper limit is ISO 3200 and cannot be changed.
Fortunately, although ISO 3200 looks a bit rubbish at 100% it produces a clean A3+ print with accurate colours, no post-processing is needed, not even a dash of noise reduction.
Auto ISO means I can hand-hold into very low light, right up to the point where the shutter goes clunk-clunk instead of a single clunk. When it gets this dark then it's time to break out the tripod/flash or compromise image quality by upping the ISO.

The exception to the above is Manual exposure.
The 5DII doesn't try to second guess the photographer and defaults to ISO 400.
I'd much prefer it to default to ISO 100, as that's what I always change ISO to when I'm not hand-holding, but for some bizarre reason it's ISO 400.......
 
OK chaps, thanks for the explanations. I think I will just have to get used to the "unlimitable" ISO.
 
David Sheridan said:
Would be the MK2, I think im more being pulled towards the 5D over the 7 as the high ISO's! But it's jut that much extra!!! Could do with wining some money right now lol
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The 5d mk1 isn't that great at high iso. It's not really any better than modern crops above 1600 iso IMO. It's getting on a bit now but is beautiful at lower iso's.

EDIT - one of those days.... Just read the first four words properly! In which case, game on!
 
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