4tb or bigger hard drive suggestions please..

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My 3tb hard drive is filling up fast, so I want something bigger for storage in my pc.
I plan to reuse my existing one in my NAS rather than just add another HD into the pc.
Any suggestions as to what is worth a look these days ?

Thanks.
 
i tend to buy from places like argos / pc world, if a hard disc is going to fail its sooner rather htan later so easier to walk back in to a shop and swap it ! argos refunds are really good , ive jus tbought a 5tb WD from them for a tickle over £100,
 
i tend to buy from places like argos / pc world, if a hard disc is going to fail its sooner rather htan later so easier to walk back in to a shop and swap it ! argos refunds are really good , ive jus tbought a 5tb WD from them for a tickle over £100,
Sounds good, especially at a tickle over £100...!
I'll take a look.

Thanks Thomas.
 
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yup always double ya backups ! work knowing if you have amazon prime you get free 'cloud' photo storage...
 
i have just bought a 4TB - WD my cloud, £149 from Amazon. Its very nifty and is both a physical hard drive which you have connected to your router, and also a personal cloud. I can access my shizz from anywhere, on any of my devices including phone. its bloody brilliant.
 
i have just bought a 4TB - WD my cloud, £149 from Amazon. Its very nifty and is both a physical hard drive which you have connected to your router, and also a personal cloud. I can access my shizz from anywhere, on any of my devices including phone. its bloody brilliant.
That sounds the business and far easier than my old 1TB usb HD. Need to update my laptop first mind you [emoji1]
 
If you already have amazon prime at home, then one of the benefits it offers is free unlimited photo storage on amazon drive ; well, it's "free" assuming you are a current amazon prime user. If you want to store more than photos, its £55 pa if you want to use it for all types of files.
I'll be honest, its not perfect, as it takes ages to upload files, but i just leave it on overnight, and as an offsite backup, i think it works ok. Also it allows me to share photos with friends easily as well.
I should add its probably only really suitable as an additional backup than as a replacement for a NAS which has lots of other benefits.
 
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If you already have amazon prime at home, then one of the benefits it offers is free unlimited photo storage on amazon drive ; well, it's "free" assuming you are a current amazon prime user. If you want to store more than photos, its £55 pa if you want to use it for all types of files.
I'll be honest, its not perfect, as it takes ages to upload files, but i just leave it on overnight, and as an offsite backup, i think it works ok. Also it allows me to share photos with friends easily as well.
I should add its probably only really suitable as an additional backup than as a replacement for a NAS which has lots of other benefits.

The problem is Cloud storage is it relies on a decent internet speed.

We get 11Mb down and 0.8Mb up at best, I couldn't imagine transferring 55GB of photos to the cloud being quick with a 0.8Mb upload/
Assuming my quick math is right, its about 150 hours.
Viewing images would not be quick either, 3-4 seconds to open a 5Mb photo.
 
Hmm. So far the replies have seemed to point me towards an external HD or some cloud-thing...
I was thinking of an internal HD and expected this thread to get a load of WD is best, or Seagate forever replies.

I don't have prime and have an old-fogey sort of aversion to storing stuff online - usually I have any I want to share on my phone or a memory stick.

Thanks for the replies so far...
 
Yes. Get another big fat HD for your computer. But get a NAS drive as well, to back the HD up.

I too have the WD 4TB Mycloud NAS, to supplement my old WD 1TB NAS which has been running silently and flawlessly for many years.
That's the badger. I have Amazon prime 'now' and it was delivered within the hour!
4TB delivered in less than one hour works out at 280Mb/second. Not bad!
 
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I'v gotta say, the WD+cloud deal mentioned above sounds pretty good - only thing I'd doublecheck is that WD don't introduce additional fees or similar after the first year for the cloud storage (hopefully not, as 3TB is tiny in cloud terms nowadays, butbetter safe than sorry). I kinda think that's got you covered, so in the unlikely event you do buy a duff disk, you've still got a backup copy in the cloud (assuming the software is half decent and happily works away reliably in the background).

And having a backup in the cloud makes a lot of sense so you're covered in the event of a fire, a breakin or the more mundane disk going bleeeeeararghaxnvijdniwdcz…pzzzz...
 
I'v gotta say, the WD+cloud deal mentioned above sounds pretty good - only thing I'd doublecheck is that WD don't introduce additional fees or similar after the first year for the cloud storage (hopefully not, as 3TB is tiny in cloud terms nowadays, butbetter safe than sorry). I kinda think that's got you covered, so in the unlikely event you do buy a duff disk, you've still got a backup copy in the cloud (assuming the software is half decent and happily works away reliably in the background).

And having a backup in the cloud makes a lot of sense so you're covered in the event of a fire, a breakin or the more mundane disk going bleeeeeararghaxnvijdniwdcz…pzzzz...
I don't think there is any offsite storage involved with the WD MyCloud. It is just your home NAS, at home that you can access from other places via the internet. With no monthly fees.
You can still sign up for some cloud service too though.

And remember:
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Stay safe people!
 
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Ooops, sorry, didnt read the blurb, i just saw the word cloud and thought it meant it was stored offsite.

tbh, your solution is really gonna depend on how much you want to spend and how much you expect your needs to grow, and how much the photos on the drive mean to you.

The WD box is fine as an external disk, but by the sounds of it, its only gonna introduce another single point of failure, so if the disk dies, you're stuffed (Clearly, if you're using it only as a backup for the content on your main internet drive, then that's perfect, just buy it and read no more).

Another option is to buy a synology or qnap nas box and then insert your own choice of enterprise NAS quality HDDs (which are typically more reliable than the consumer quality drives found in devices like the WD box.). I bought a 2-drive synology NAS for my brother, and a 2-drive qnap NAS for myself. The reason for buying the NAS was i wanted something that had more expansion capabilities and could also connect up to the TV to act as a media server. I havent listed the box names as they come out with new ones every year, so get the latest one that has enough space for your future needs. It's more expensive, but might be a better option than a single NAS drive, and in most cases (and depending on your config), you can buy the empty NAS box, add in one drive now and then add a second drive in the future (when cost/TB drops).

Personally, I store my can't-lose files and active files on my macbook and imac, and these are backed up to an apple time machine continually and to the NAS nightly (on drive 1). I also keep lots of other files (mostly archived videos and photos) on the NAS drive 2, and everything from everywhere is backed up weekly to amazon drive (which in itself stores the contents in three different data centres from what i remember). I'm also considering encrypting some of my backups to the cloud, so that no one could access the contents even if there was some massive botch by amazon.
You will have different needs, but hopefully this gives you a picture of one workflow that seems to work ok for me anyway. It'll be stupidly overkill for some, and crazily reckless for others (so if anyone is gonna tell me my config is JBOD rather than proper RAID, please get a life).

But i'd recommend not relying on a single drive if you can't live without the contents.

Lastly, i dunno how convinced i am about the WD personal cloud option though. Personally, I'd trust amazon or dropbox to maintain its servers secure, more than i'd trust myself to properly configure a personal cloud that gave access to my NAS to the entire internet, and which relied on WD to continue to maintain the software's integrity into the future.

(EDIT - i removed an external link to storagereview leaderboard as the article was out of date)
 
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Lastly, i dunno how convinced i am about the WD personal cloud option though. Personally, I'd trust amazon or dropbox to maintain its servers secure, more than i'd trust myself to properly configure a personal cloud that gave access to my NAS to the entire internet, and which relied on WD to continue to maintain the software's integrity into the future.
It's just a NAS. You don't have to give it any external access. They make it easy to do if you want that though.

I have Amazon Cloud Photos with Prime. But as soon as I stop paying for Prime, I guess they wipe all my pictures.
 
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Again, thanks for the replies but to clarify - I do have a NAS - a 4 bay qnap with 2 3tb WD reds in it plus another (3tb drive) that gets backed up to.

I just need more space IN my pc - I guessed it would be easier to have a new and bigger internal drive rather than just getting a second drive (but may be wrong ???)
Maybe I should just add a second storage drive to run alongside my internal 3tb drive ?

I realize I will also need to increase the storage in my NAS, but had thought I could use my redundant internal drive in a spare bay in the NAS once I had a new and bigger hd.
 
Ah apologies, didnt realise it was a fully fledged nas you had already.
yea, adding in a second drive sounds like a good option, as no need to transfer over system files or reinstall the OS onto the new drive, but i guess it depends how quickly your total internal storage will exceed your total NAS backup storage, and only you'll know that answer.

As to which brand of HDD is best - i'm not at all sure but there's probably a website out there that gives stats on that. storagereview.com or whatever.

And if you don't already have one, a SSD is definitely worth a look as it makes a massive difference to the zippyness of day to day performance on your desktop, but by the sounds of your NAS setup, i'm getting the impression you've got yourself a pretty damned good rig already ;-)
 
Ah apologies, didnt realise it was a fully fledged nas you had already.
yea, adding in a second drive sounds like a good option, as no need to transfer over system files or reinstall the OS onto the new drive, but i guess it depends how quickly your total internal storage will exceed your total NAS backup storage, and only you'll know that answer.

As to which brand of HDD is best - i'm not at all sure but there's probably a website out there that gives stats on that. storagereview.com or whatever.

And if you don't already have one, a SSD is definitely worth a look as it makes a massive difference to the zippyness of day to day performance on your desktop, but by the sounds of your NAS setup, i'm getting the impression you've got yourself a pretty damned good rig already ;-)
Not sure if it is impressive as it is a few years old (i5 and 8gb RAM) but yes, I do have an SSD for the OS etc.
I appreciate both your input as well as Ians - I guess I had assumed that with all the different colour WD's (red, purple, black, yellow, green etc) that maybe there was a definite type to go for, but you make it sound like I'm over complicating it all.
I've got a couple of old 1tb drives that I could use for now in the pc, and put the money towards a new one for the NAS if I can't stretch to both in one go.
I have to say, its not the most exciting way to spend a little spare cash is it....
 
Not sure if it is impressive as it is a few years old (i5 and 8gb RAM) but yes, I do have an SSD for the OS etc.
I appreciate both your input as well as Ians - I guess I had assumed that with all the different colour WD's (red, purple, black, yellow, green etc) that maybe there was a definite type to go for, but you make it sound like I'm over complicating it all.
I've got a couple of old 1tb drives that I could use for now in the pc, and put the money towards a new one for the NAS if I can't stretch to both in one go.
I have to say, its not the most exciting way to spend a little spare cash is it....
Sticking with WD purely for the sake of illustration and keeping things as simple as possible, Black and Blue are desktop drives where Black is the better one; Red is for servers/NAS and Green is for backups. I think I've only omitted Purple as that's not of interest to this discussion.
 
Are you using your NAS wirelessly or hardwired?

Not that it necessarily makes a lot of difference. Sling another couple of 3tb WD Reds in the NAS and move across a terabyte or so of your older, less accessed files. Hard drives generally fill up with crap, the volume of files regularly accessed doesn't change very much in my experience.
 
Are you using your NAS wirelessly or hardwired?

Not that it necessarily makes a lot of difference. Sling another couple of 3tb WD Reds in the NAS and move across a terabyte or so of your older, less accessed files. Hard drives generally fill up with crap, the volume of files regularly accessed doesn't change very much in my experience.

Only really matters if your transfer is end to end hardwired.

Wireless is usually slower than wired (assuming 1Gb connection) so even if your NAS is hardwired, using wireless to transfer the data from a laptop will be the bottleneck.

I always plug into one of my switches to transfer data, even with semi decent Cisco AP's, its not quick on wireless.
 
Sticking with WD purely for the sake of illustration and keeping things as simple as possible, Black and Blue are desktop drives where Black is the better one; Red is for servers/NAS and Green is for backups. I think I've only omitted Purple as that's not of interest to this discussion.
Many thanks Jonathan - so its not a case of choosing your favourite colour..

Are you using your NAS wirelessly or hardwired?

Not that it necessarily makes a lot of difference. Sling another couple of 3tb WD Reds in the NAS and move across a terabyte or so of your older, less accessed files. Hard drives generally fill up with crap, the volume of files regularly accessed doesn't change very much in my experience.
Wirelessly.
I think I'll be getting another red for the NAS and a black for the pc for now - while I imagine you are right about less accessed files, mine are either photos or music, and I do like to have them on both the pc and NAS.

Again, thanks everyone for the help.
 
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