40th anniversary of the moon landing (or not)

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On the news tonight in readiness for the 40th anniversary of the "moon landing"
'Twould seem that the Americans have "found" film footage that
was "apparently" "lost"

its supposed to be better than "anything" previously seen

40 years down the line and CGI has improved no end :D
anyone else sceptical :shrug:
 
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LOL.I don't buy into this particular conspiracy theory, but I'm pretty sure there's no Santa now, and I'm not too sure about the tooth fairy. :D
 
CT said:
, and I'm not too sure about the tooth fairy. :D
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:eek: What am I gong to do with all me teef when they start to fall out :(

TBH I am not sure either way, I was at school and watched the
"take-off" We as school kids were spell bound obviously and spent several nights
looking at the moon for a glimpse :D

BUT baring in mind that technology that was available
at the time ( computers and videos? WTF were they ( as I am sure you will agree))

Now I am less inclined to believe that they actually made it
but as I said " I am open minded"
 
Nah it was filmed in a studio :D

Remember watching it, all the neighbours round to watch it in colour :bang: it was BW :bang: Twas when I was 12yrs old and just converted from paraffin tellys :lol:
 
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I have no doubt it happened. Considering the technology available and the frail moon landing craft it was an incredible feat and a miracle that they got back - in fact they very nearly didn't due to various issues. It was a foolhardy mission in many respects.

The fact is that the cold war wiith Russia and the race to be first to the moon was all important and the astronauts were expendable. Had it gone wrong, the loss of face to NASA would have been more embarrassing than the loss of the crew I'm sure.
 
I always assumed it was true, but I wasn't there at the time.

Proof will be in the pudding when they go back as it'll be kinda obvious whether it was filmed there or on a sound stage as without enough info there'll be no way anybody could emulate accurately as alien an environment as the moon
 
CT said:
I have no doubt it happened. Considering the technology available and the frail moon landing craft it was an incredible feat and a miracle that they got back - in fact they very nearly didn't due to various issues. It was a foolhardy mission in many respects.
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They were brave for sure not really knowing if they could get back or not
 
Just Dave said:
They were brave for sure not really knowing if they could get back or not
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They knew the odds for sure. NASA had the tragedy press releases all prepared and the crew had ninite (suicide) pills in the event of the moonlander not taking off. They'd have been beyond any hope of rescue.
 
CT said:
The fact is that the cold war wiith Russia and the race to be first to the moon was all important and the astronauts were expendable. Had it gone wrong, the loss of face to NASA would have been more embarrassing than the loss of the crew I'm sure.
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I think that was probably the moot point it was a political thing more than anything else
TBH looking back I am even more amazed that they actually got into
space ( outta the Earths atmosphere) than anything
Let alone actually reach the moon ( if they did)
david1701 said:
I always assumed it was true, but I wasn't there at the time.

Proof will be in the pudding when they go back as it'll be kinda obvious whether it was filmed there or on a sound stage as without enough info there'll be no way anybody could emulate accurately as alien an environment as the moon
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Wasn't there something recently when the "authenticity" was questioned
( there was quite a run of, did the didn't they, programmes awhile ago)
That NASA said that they would most certainly NOT be another moon landing
That amongst a lot of other things makes me wonder
 
To be fair though Chris,I don't think there's much they don't know about the moon now, and it's usefulness as a starting point for deep space exploration is largely negated now by the space station.
 
CT said:
To be fair though Chris,I don't think there's much they don't know about the moon now, and it's usefulness as a starting point for deep space exploration is largely negated now by the space station.
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True, the space station is a useful :D peice of kit
TBH CT as I said in post #3 I have an open mind
Its just the press release about this "footage" that has been "found"
Just made me wonder ( again)

 
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Just Dave said:
Is that the same as Russia spy Markov, The umbrella had fired a ricin pellet on Waterloo Bridge , and Markov died and Alexander Litvinenko, a former Russian spy was murdered with
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LOL. I forget the actual substance used for whacking that guy, but whatever the astronauts had it would have been the most painless option available I'm sure.

The guy in the umbrella whack job died a terrible painful and lingering death.
 
Cobra said:


True, the space station is a useful :D peice of kit
TBH CT as I said in post #3 I have an open mind
Its just the press release about this "footage" that has been "found"
Just made me wonder ( again)
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Well there's nowt wrong with being cynical and questioning things.

That mission always puts me in mind of the USS Hunley. Just as foolhardy in a different environment, and one that went tragically wrong. That crew didn't have ninite pills either. Incredibly sad story! :'(
 
CT said:
LOL. I forget the actual substance used for whacking that guy, but whatever the astronauts had it would have been the most painless option available I'm sure.

The guy in the umbrella whack job died a terrible painful and lingering death.
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but in a massive ingested dose would be quicker
 
Cobra said:
On the news tonight in readiness for the 40th anniversary of the "moon landing"
'Twould seem that the Americans have "found" film footage that
was "apparently" "lost"

its supposed to be better than "anything" previously seen

40 years down the line and CGI has improved no end :D
anyone else sceptical :shrug:
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Amazing! I was gonna start exactly the same thread when I heard NASA had found this film?..... Decided not to when it was actually found in Shepperton studios filed under SCI-FI :D

On a slightly more serious note, I find it incredible that any film could have been lost in the first place? Apparantly it got mixed up with Mary Poppins, Jungle book and Bridge over the river Quai (K?) :thinking:
 
Just Dave said:
but in a massive ingested dose would be quicker
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Of course, but I suspect it would have been more civilised than that - massive concentrated overdose of something sleep inducing. Perhaps they'd have had a bottle of JD on board to wash it down with, but I doubt it somehow because of the weight. :D
 
photon said:
Some snaps from the trip . . .
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There are hundreds of gb worth of images that actually say different
Like the flag fluttering on the moon
and the way the "cross hairs" on many images are inconsistently behind in some
and in front in others. Just two that stick in my mind but a
quick google produces a lot more.

Not being rude here were you around in the late sixties
to be aware of the actually technology that was available?
its easy now with todays technology, to see how it could have happened.
But 40 years ago.......:shrug:
I think I am becoming a "non-believer" :D


CT said:
. Just as foolhardy in a different environment, and one that went tragically wrong. That crew didn't have ninite pills either. Incredibly sad story! :'(
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I had forgotten about that :(
 
Splog said:
On a slightly more serious note, I find it incredible that any film could have been lost in the first place? Apparantly it got mixed up with Mary Poppins, Jungle book and Bridge over the river Quai (K?) :thinking:
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:D
 
Ok This is interesting look at these purely from a tog point of view
3 random images opened from the link that Photon sent

Look at the angle of the shadows do they match?



Person / equipment shadow heavy-ish yet virtually nothing from the
moon lander


How far have they just "come"? and through space? this all looks rather shiny and new



Ah well thats enough conspiracy theory for tonight :D
 
I bet they're panicking in case the Japanese get to the moon before they do, otherwise they'll have a tough time explaining who stole all the US flags and lunar rovers :naughty:
 
Horizon doesn't look very far.

Where are the stars? (A guy who films car adverts says they always have to add stars in PP.)

With mapping surveys etc over the intervening years, where are the shots of gear left at the landing sites?
 
Capricorn One anyone?

There is also the fact that Armstrong has spoken little of his experience of the Apollo 11 mission and none of 'walking' on the moon, although he will discuss space flight generally.

But on the other hand, there is no proof the original concept of the mission was to bury the CIA's files on the JFK hit.
 
Tazmaniandevil said:
Capricorn One anyone?

There is also the fact that Armstrong has spoken little of his experience of the Apollo 11 mission and none of 'walking' on the moon, although he will discuss space flight generally.
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That's because Michael Jackson is the king of moon walking and why Armstrong just jumped about! That's also the real reason MJ was killed by NASA :thinking: to stop him telling the world that Armstrong came to him for lessons on how to walk on the moon :cuckoo:
 
Cobra said:
Like the flag fluttering on the moon
and the way the "cross hairs" on many images are inconsistently behind in some
and in front in others. Just two that stick in my mind but a
quick google produces a lot more.

Not being rude here were you around in the late sixties
to be aware of the actually technology that was available?
its easy now with todays technology, to see how it could have happened.
But 40 years ago.......:shrug:
I think I am becoming a "non-believer"
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Mythbusters have busted just about all of the conspiracy theories.


Steve.
 
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This Image stood out to me whilst looking through the photos. Look at the photo at 100%, and between the main/biggest cross hair and the one to the immediate left is a large square where the dust is significantly lighter than everywhere else. There is also a line of stones on the edges. Strange?

I'm fairly open minded about the whole thing though - From what I've read and seen there seems to be evidence either way.
 
Splog said:
That's because Michael Jackson is the king of moon walking and why Armstrong just jumped about! That's also the real reason MJ was killed by NASA :thinking: to stop him telling the world that Armstrong came to him for lessons on how to walk on the moon :cuckoo:
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:lol: Quality!
 
Can you imagine how many tracking stations all around the world were tracking that flight, not to mention probably every observatory telescope in the world ? Such a monumental deception really doesn't seem likely to me with an audience like that keeping tabs.

Capricorn One was a work of fiction, but I'm sure it's responsible for a lot of the consiracy hype.
 
the USS Hunley, what happened there?
 
fletch5 said:
the USS Hunley, what happened there?
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The Hunley was a mini submarine used by the confederates in the American civil war. It was basically just a cramped tin can and the crew propelled it by turning hand cranks. After a successful attack on a Union war ship it lost bouyancy and sank to the ocean bed. The crew always said that in the event of this happening they'd just open the sea valves and drown rather than die of suffocation. In the film they made of the story that's how the crew chose to end their lives. Incredibly sad story.

The Hunley was in fact found and raised fairly recently.

LINKY
 
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cheers CT, i found that, but it wasnt USS and i thought it was something a bit more recent:thumbs:
 
Doh! I've altered the link. :thumbs:
 
Even if NASA took a conspiracy theorist to the moon and showed him/her the original landing sites, the theorist would come up with a new theory to explain how he/she was hypnotised/drugged so the trip proved nothing.
 
Steve Smith said:
Mythbusters have busted just about all of the conspiracy theories.


Steve.
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Its a bit like the use of statistics
you ( they) can "prove" anything you ( they) want to :thumbs:
but I am more intrigued of late,
since re-finding my interest in photography 3 or 4 years back, with the
inconsistency of the "moon landing images"
rather like the 3 very random ones I posted on the other page)
 
Nod said:
Even if NASA took a conspiracy theorist to the moon and showed him/her the original landing sites, the theorist would come up with a new theory to explain how he/she was hypnotised/drugged so the trip proved nothing.
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Errrrm.... Shouldn't read
Even if NASA took a conspiracy theorist to Roswell and showed him/her the original landing sites
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:D
 
I knew about this a while back now, makes an intresting read. Did they land on the Moon? Myself I think yes, those tat are sceptical are no different than those that thought man could not fly, or if you whent too far you would fall off the edge of the Earth. Its a natural thing I suppose, you will always have the believers and non believers.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/01/help-needed-to-recover-old-satellite-imagery/
 
u8myufo said:
those tat are sceptical are no different than those that thought man could not fly,
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But man cannot fly ( unless I have missed something :shrug: )
He builds machines that can fly, two totally different things :D

But with modern day analytical devices the moon shots are looking less
and less "genuine" as far as I am concerned
 
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