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Ok would a upgrade from a 40D to a 7D be a noticeable difference? I have though about a 5D MKII but that just for the Full Frame I am told the 7D is much quicker and better at AF???

I be using for Portrait and Landscape and yes I know alot will say 5D be best but bearing in mind the other features and specs of the 7D
 
Having just agonised over this, it appears the 7D is great at sports & nature due to very good autofocus, 1.6x crop factor and very high framerates. The 5Dmk2 seems to have better noise performance and able to reach a bit further to higher ISOs acceptably. The downside is the worse focus and the fact it isn't as nippy. Some are also saying the low ISO noise is relatively high on the 7D (due to the small pixels).

All the people I talked to (see a thread in here I started a week or so ago and private discussions with tog friends of mine) said that the FF was the better option as the pics should be better quality than an equivalent technology APS-C sized sensor.

Also, you do have to ask yourself when 10fps and great servo autofocus is needed if the bulk of your work is landscapes and portraits ;) That's what clinched it for me - I looked at what I was taking pics of and it is all buildings and portraits.... whilst the features on the 7D were very sexy, I knew I'd always be thinking "what if...". Mind you I could be thinking in 6 months time "if only I had a really quick autofocus..." but at least then I'll only be looking for a new body as the EF lenses I have will be great on the APS-C sized 7D...

Don't forget that the 5Dmk2 will need EF lenses and you should be thinking about L level glass too....
 
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rookies said:
Ok would a upgrade from a 40D to a 7D be a noticeable difference? I have though about a 5D MKII but that just for the Full Frame I am told the 7D is much quicker and better at AF???

I be using for Portrait and Landscape and yes I know alot will say 5D be best but bearing in mind the other features and specs of the 7D
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I think the 5DII's autofocus gets a bit of a reputation for being much worse than it actually is! People say it's terrible, but there are people on here who have used it for sports and still got good results! And sports teams move a fair bit faster than your average landscape :D

If it's for portraits and landscapes, the 5D will almost definitely suit you more, but if you use long lenses a lot you might find your current lenses not quite long enough.

It's your call, they're both very good cameras, it depends on your budget really!
 
Budget is tight but need make the right choice know the saying...

And I do have collections of L Glass :) so all me glass are EF Lenses no worries there..
 
where best price for 5D MII then at the moment..
 
The downside is the worse focus and the fact it isn't as nippy.
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Complete twadle if you ask me, oh and I'm not having a go.

How many times do you sit there and rattle of at 6.9 frames a second instead of 3.9. ?

When you use centre focus for everything including the kitchen sink what difference does it make even if the AI servo is supposed to be a tad slow ?.

1.6 crop versus no crop, well the 5d2 has more pixels so you can blow it up further.

If you want an all singing dancing body get a 1D series.

If the 7D is soooooo much better than a 5d2 then surely Canon got their pricing a bit wrong.

I've done everything from fast moving aircraft to mountain scenery with my 5d2 and it's an awsome camera. For portraits and landscapes it takes a huge ammount of beating be it by Canon or Nikons.

Go where your head tells you and not a bunch of numbers. I've seen some breathtaking picture on TP shot with basic kit.

Oh and it ain't sour grapes, I nearly went to the dark side this year after some **** poor service from Canon.
 
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Keep the 40D and get the 5Dmk2, i have, then you have the best of both worlds. 8fps is hardly slow for the 40D and the 5Dmk2 will excel at landscape /portrait.
 
ChrisH said:
Complete twadle if you ask me, oh and I'm not having a go.

How many times do you sit there and rattle of at 6.9 frames a second instead of 3.9. ?
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I was making sweeping statements ;) Both a fast and accurate focus and 8 fps are important if you're photoing something moving quickly and want to freeze the action and do it pretty reliably with a long lens.

Not saying you can't do it on a 5Dmk2, just I'd expect it to be easier for a less experienced togger to get more good shots for those scenarios with the 7D when compared to the 5Dmk2.

ChrisH said:
If the 7D is soooooo much better than a 5d2 then surely Canon got their pricing a bit wrong.
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I work in the semiconductor industry and I reckon that a full frame sensor is very expensive to produce due to higher likelihood of faults in the manufacturing process. I may be talking out of my *** of course :)
 
I just upgraded from a 40 to a 7 and I don't regret it one bit, especially as I sold the 40 n covered a fair chunk of the cost. The 7D is an awesome bit of kit. As most of the stuff I take is is usually moving, planes, trains etc, the crop n pixel count are pretty handy.
It does all boil down to the old crop vs ff arguement and what you want to do with it.
 
Dave Stone said:
Have you considered a 1D MkIII ?
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To be honest nope... How much would one of these set me back and I believe this is crop like 7D? people are now saying FF way to go?
 
A good SH one about £1500. It has a 1.3 crop so halfway between the 5DMkII and 7D. Lighning fast AF and great noise handling and 10 FPS. Built like a tank and weatherproof.
 
Dave Stone said:
A good SH one about £1500. It has a 1.3 crop so halfway between the 5DMkII and 7D. Lighning fast AF and great noise handling and 10 FPS. Built like a tank and weatherproof.
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.........but only 10mp...so not so good for crop.
 
arad85

I used to work for the now defunct Ferranti, and have a similar opinion but it's not just a little more expensive.

I think camera's these days are horses for courses. I love my 5d2 but it suits my photography. I'f I had the funds I'd add a 1d series to my kit :D
 
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I be using for Portrait and Landscape and yes I know alot will say 5D be best but bearing in mind the other features and specs of the 7D
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You are right George but there shouldn't be too much cropping involved with these.
 
Dave Stone said:
You are right George but there shouldn't be too much cropping involved with these.
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Yes, that's correct and I was just pointing it out, as the op said mainly landscapes I'd go for the 5d 2, for action/sports the 7D'll win hands down.

Would def get a 5D 2 over a 1d3 for landscape work, no question.

George
 
I've got the 7D with 15-85mm lens and use it mainly for Landscape. I'm more than pleased with the results I've been getting with it.

Lee
 
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I agree with Neil, if your budget can stretch, but dont forget your 40d is still a decent alrounder
 
The 5D II and the 7D are aimed at different users entirely.

Both are very capable cameras and will peform functions their opposite is designed for adequately - but not as well as their opposite.

The autofocus system on the 7D is superior to the 5D II - this is without question. But the reason for that is the 7D is aimed at the 'action' photographer and the 5D II isn't. Sure, the 5DII AF can do tracking and stuff, just not as well.

So for the use specified (landscape and portrait) the 5D II will be the better camera - if you stray into the action area it will still peform adequately - just not as well as the 7D would.
 
I'd agree with what Richard has just said. I was blown away with the autofocus of the the 7D and I was blown away with the image quality of the 5DII. Both cameras have their strengths and weaknesses and I use them accordingly.
 
For me IQ is the most important factor of my photography and i don't shoot fast moving objects so a 5D 2 is on my future shopping list.
 
RichardtheSane said:
The 5D II and the 7D are aimed at different users entirely.

Both are very capable cameras and will peform functions their opposite is designed for adequately - but not as well as their opposite.

The autofocus system on the 7D is superior to the 5D II - this is without question. But the reason for that is the 7D is aimed at the 'action' photographer and the 5D II isn't. Sure, the 5DII AF can do tracking and stuff, just not as well.

So for the use specified (landscape and portrait) the 5D II will be the better camera - if you stray into the action area it will still peform adequately - just not as well as the 7D would.
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My point entirely as in previous post.

I use a 1Ds 3 for landscape and close up wildlife with appropriate lenses (usually a 70-200) and the 7D for wildlife. For me the 1D3 hasn't enough pixels and the mark4 doesn't have enough advantages over the 7D for wildlife (except iso is noticeably superior) and has too many drawbacks to warrant the extra expenditure.
But I digress, for your usage, 5D II wins hands down, I suggest.

George
 
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