27 Inch iMac

andyst2409 said:
from an image editing pov, the imac blows the pc so far out of the water that you need to be looking in another galaxy for it.
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How? Lightroom/Photoshop works exactly the same on both machines.

I can understand if you prefer Aperture to LR (or whatever your choice of editor is) but that isn't the iMac being better other than you prefer Aperture to anything else. IMHO, one of the fundamental problems is that the screens are worse on an iMac (I'm used to non-reflective screens and can't abide editing on anything even semi-glossy).
 
I have the 27 inch iMac and I recommend it to everyone.
The entire user experience is monumentally greater than that of windows.
Your workflow is much more organised, neat and well presented.

And in terms of photography programs, the mac is definitely a winner boasting support for major programs like Lightroom and Photoshop while having time saving exclusive programs like: Aperture, Colour Strokes, Pixelmator, Snapheal etc.
 
andyst2409 said:
just to put my tupenth worth in, I moved from pc's to mac in may I have had a pro career as a coder so I know my way around a pc better than most, and have done for the past 30 years.

from a coding pov the mac is still the worst pile of crap I have ever had the misfortune to be contracted to code for.

from a file organising pov its just different from the pc. neither better nor worse. they both organise, job done.

from an image editing pov, the imac blows the pc so far out of the water that you need to be looking in another galaxy for it.

controlling the mac, its weird at first, but(thankfully!) intuitive. Stick with it and you'll be surprised just how quickly you'll start thinking like a mac user

don't think just get one you wont regret it!
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and from my perspective as a code
OSX is joy to code for and the frameworks are clean, build tools consistent and the tools are all on a command line.
Windows is INSANE the API makes very little sense.

The file system is an order of magnitude more sensible but then again I am used to a real (UNIX) like OS where stuff is where it is expected and spend ~70% of my time in a terminal.

The hard disks on the 27" macs are upgradeable.

nice fast and stable :) still can't get a PC with the same features for the same price
 
Bought a 27" iMac in January 2010 (Late 2009 model). 2.8GHz i7, 8GB RAM, 512MB Radeon Graphics. Screen and HDD replaced FOC just recently. Running like a dream. Still eats everything I throw at it with CPU to spare. Never thought I'd be happily using the same PC 3 years down the line. Highly recommended.
 
arad85 said:
How? Lightroom/Photoshop works exactly the same on both machines.

I can understand if you prefer Aperture to LR (or whatever your choice of editor is) but that isn't the iMac being better other than you prefer Aperture to anything else. IMHO, one of the fundamental problems is that the screens are worse on an iMac (I'm used to non-reflective screens and can't abide editing on anything even semi-glossy).
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doing most things on a mac is quicker and simpler as they are more consistent so there is less cognitive overhead. For example drag on drop works the same from every application so you can rely on doing it and not be surprised by the results (e.g. drag a picture from apature onto the upload button in chrome and it will get exported and the path set in the button, control-a control-e contol-y and control-k work as they should in almost everything (glares at MS office)) All these small "tricks" do add up to save time and as they tend to work in everything you have more chance of remembering them!
 
I'm editing on my PC. I have no experience with Macs apart from my iPad and iPhone.

If someone suggests to me that my 3.6ghz 8 core 16GB RAM and 2GB Graphics RAM with 128GB SSD and 1TB Hard Disk running Windows 8 can be beaten by an iMac, I don't think I could take them seriously.

But then, I do play games on my PC too.
 
I switched to a 21.5" mac last Christmas when the new one came out. It did take a bit of getting used to but it works great, I wish I had the space for the 27" though!
The thing I like best is that I have limited pc knowledge and don't want to spend hours messing about trying to get things to work, I did this a lot with my dell laptop. Everything on the mac just works, first time, every time. I'm happy to pay a premium for that.
 
mountainpenguin said:
doing most things on a mac is quicker and simpler as they are more consistent so there is less cognitive overhead. For example drag on drop works the same from every application so you can rely on doing it and not be surprised by the results (e.g. drag a picture from apature onto the upload button in chrome and it will get exported and the path set in the button, control-a control-e contol-y and control-k work as they should in almost everything (glares at MS office)) All these small "tricks" do add up to save time and as they tend to work in everything you have more chance of remembering them!
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But the OP said "from an image editing pov, the imac blows the pc so far out of the water that you need to be looking in another galaxy for it"

That's all I'm questioning. How is that the case. If you are telling me it's because you can drag and drop from Aperture to Chrome upload (isn't there a plugin to export automatically from LR without DnD?) then we are talking a very small universe.

BTW: I've never had any problems with orthogonality of shortcuts in Windows....
 
id agree. from an image editing performance standpoint youd be struggling to spot any difference on a like for like spec machine. adobe software on both platforms is pretty much identical.

reliability wise, i see just as many issues from both platforms day to day (snow leopard/mountain lion vs xp/7). some windows machines slow down, some macs slow down. the common factor in these instances.. USERS.

(defrag? really? who does that these days?)
 
neil_g said:
some windows machines slow down, some macs slow down. the common factor in these instances.. USERS.
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But everybody believes they are perfect so it must be down to the OS ;)
 
Everything on the mac just works, first time, every time. I'm happy to pay a premium for that.
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F1.2 said:
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See.. this I don't get. I don't ever have any issues with Windows either - works first time, every time for me....

And there are enough threads (even if you limit it to this forum) where people are having issues/asking questions with Macs where the "it just works" is just plainly wrong...
 
arad85 said:
See.. this I don't get. I don't ever have any issues with Windows either - works first time, every time for me....

And there are enough threads (even if you limit it to this forum) where people are having issues/asking questions with Macs where the "it just works" is just plainly wrong...
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Exactly as mentioned above the main issue is the USERS :D

As an aside I'd pit my PC against any MAC :D......Fight!!!!!!! If anyone thinks I'm being serious I'm not but my PC is a beast
 
Someone made a point above about not wanting an off-the-shelf solution (which a Mac is essentially) but I'd argue that although there are upgrade options, the choice is pretty straightforward and I know an increasing number of people who've moved to macs for that reason alone. Granted, they're not the kind of people who would think of upgrading a machine unless a professional did it for them, but a fair few of them have mentioned that they just got bamboozled by the number of PC choices available in the high street.

Like I said earlier, the limited choice you get with Mac is still a very good base spec and I suppose it's that straightforward, clear marketing that is now becoming more appealing as people want the decision (partly) made for them.

Plus, there's also the 'front-of-house' that Apple has; dedicated shops that are all the same, are manned by what appear to be mac geeks, and really push messages relating to making life easier, sharing things, computers that 'just work'. You just don't appear get that from the guy at Curry's who's also selling white goods and compact cameras.

Anyway, I digress.... :)
 
arad85 said:
How? Lightroom/Photoshop works exactly the same on both machines.

I can understand if you prefer Aperture to LR (or whatever your choice of editor is) but that isn't the iMac being better other than you prefer Aperture to anything else. IMHO, one of the fundamental problems is that the screens are worse on an iMac (I'm used to non-reflective screens and can't abide editing on anything even semi-glossy).
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Actually I use LR + CS cc. Both are so much faster on my MAC (could have something to do with having 32gb RAM I guess, or as I use both on an almost daily basis the fusion HDD has them both on SSD part of the drive) and TBH I only use aperture for slideshows (to be fair it does them so much better than LR) as I hate the file organizing of aperture (I find LR file system soo much better). But as far as the screens being worse ???? I guess that's down to personal pref. For myself I find that the backlit LCD screens are far superior to 99% of the lcd screens out there (the 1% being the high end (£1000+ ea) editing screens) the colours are brighter and more vivid. Plus at 2550x1460 its far easier to spot anything that needs editing or if you have over/under sharpened a raw file. As for reflections... I can honestly say I don't seem to suffer any. But hey :D that's just my personal opinion

@jonny and mountain, ok i'll put my hand up here and admit I haven't coded a mac since the early 90's and haven't had a serious dig around OSX yet :D but the command line looked close enough to what I remembered for me to to say "yup I remember that ****" and immediately close it down hahaha maybe I should give it another go :D
 
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