17th Challenge for the Days Ahead

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I dont think its cheating and I really dont think Ed does he was pulling your leg, I :thinking: lighten up :lol:

I might agree with that assessment Dave, if it were not for the finger wagging smiley. However it was intended it has been received by me with offence. Time will tell if he is big enough to clarify his posting was intended to be humour, issue a retraction, and/or apologise...

Wish I'd never bothered now...:shake:

Ah, don't let it bug ya. Let's move on with the challenge... :)
 
OI!! Play nicely boys! :suspect:


:p

Anyway, here is my [probably] only entry due to time. Taken this evening, we went to a concert at the Barbican in London and arrived to find the outside area round the pond packed with people eating, drinking and generally enjoying the very pleasant evening sunshine and warmth.

Enjoing the Weather

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Friday's abstracty Cliche

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What does the gallery thing here do to images? It doesn't look like this on my PC. I suppose its the shrinking to 100K that does it?
 
Here we go then...

:3rd: In third Place we have jennyb... :clap:

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:2nd: In second place, we have who? :clap:

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:1st: and This weeks Winner, we have yv :clap:

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Special commendation to CrazyJay for Freestyle Interpretation...

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Which is what I'm now going to help myself to!

Well done all, and over to Yv for the next challenge.
 
:eek::woot: thanks TBY! I honestly thought we would get more entries for this than we did, but well done every one that did enter, especially Jennyb and who? as well as crazyjay, who's outside th ebox entries I particulaly liked :thumbs:

Will get my thinking cap on and post a new challenge later ;)
 
Congratulations Yv, That is a stunningly clear image. Well done Jenny, Jay and everyone else.

I was surprised that there were so few entries, I guess people are either enjoying the sun or hiding from the rain? (we had hailstones a couple of times this week).

And thanks to The Big Yin for the topic and the selection (£5 by paypal OK? ;-) )
 
When I set the duration last week, it totally escaped me that it was a bank holiday weekend, and that a good selection of the populace may well be away 'till monday. To be honest, bank holidays don't seem to affect me greatly, as i'm a full-time carer (and part time computer geek) and as such, don't get any days off - bank hol's or no bank hols.
 
That was a quick decision.

Jenny

Ah but you can assess them as they are posted so you already have an idea well done Yv,:clap: well desrved, the who and jennyb :clap: I thought we would get more entries seeing it was a POTY theme 2 or 3 months ago to get ideas from :shrug:

my entry was really a token effort, as I didnt do anything lazy boy I hear you say LOL
 
Ah but you can assess them as they are posted so you already have an idea ...

That's pretty much what I'd done - checked through every time I came in to post reminders etc. Wasn't just a stick a pin in a list job, honest!:lol:
 
Wow. I got a mention on my first attempt. I can't beleive that. Thanks, I really hadn't expected to.

There were some really nice shots in this lot, Yv, Who and Jennyb. Well deserved winners,:clap::clap::clap: It's really inspiring seeing the images on this forum, and I'm looking forward to getting to grips with the next challenge.

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I might agree with that assessment Dave, if it were not for the finger wagging smiley. However it was intended it has been received by me with offence. Time will tell if he is big enough to clarify his posting was intended to be humour, issue a retraction, and/or apologise...

I apologise wholeheartedly for having used the word cheat, you obviously did not cheat as it was not specifically in the rules. Perhaps the rule that reads:

All entries must be new photos, taken within the time frame of the comp.

Should read:

All entries must be new images, taken within the time frame of the comp.

So as I said I withdraw the cheat remark!

But as for entering into the spirit of the competition I think it sucks, yes there is no real prize to be won at the end of the week, but the idea of the competition in the first place was to encourage creative thought based around a theme within a limited time period, to see what you could come up with in that time.

I have been very disappointed with the attitude of some to this theme, especially those who chose ways to circumvent the spirit of the competition is some way, and for the judge to actually commend one of them is just a further indication of where this competition is headed, whilst I accept it is a very good shot it has no realistic relationship to the theme at all, in the style of the well known art critic Jim Royle, 'freestyle interpretation, my arse!'

I also think that the number of individuals entering has reduced, by people thinking that the challenge has become devalued, the standard of entries has declined somewhat from the early weeks and I believe that this has been in somepart due to some of the entrants entering more than one entry of almost exactly the same subject, instead of using their option of three entries to submit different ideas, all this does is imply that the author does not know or have the conviction of which their best image is and is leaving it for the judge to decide. Sometimes 'Less is More' the option of having three images is not a minimum entry or even a requirement.

So for the next theme glass, and as I will not be entering anymore of these challanges, please let me offer some suggestions, if you do not have the time or inclination to try to take some different images, perhaps you could take a picture of one of your framed images, in fact CrazyJay's bottle picture would be ideal for this as it is closer to that topic than this one. Once you have framed your print and rephotographed it, perhaps you could then place it in different settings and do the same again to give you your maximum three entries.

If you are away for the week on a beach, take a picture of the sand, as at some time in the future it may well become glass if it happens to become subjected to enough heat.

Finally, may I offer my congratulations to the winning images, not all as I would have chosed but that is the perogative and choice of the judge, and as in all competitions (whether seen as a fun thing or not) his decision is final.

Good luck all with your future challenges.
 
I apologise wholeheartedly for having used the word cheat, you obviously did not cheat as it was not specifically in the rules.

Thanks for the apology and clarification :thumbs:

Perhaps the rule that reads: {snip}

Should read:

All entries must be new images, taken within the time frame of the comp.

Ah, but it didn't and hasn't for the past 16 weeks (approx).

But as for entering into the spirit of the competition I think it sucks, yes there is no real prize to be won at the end of the week, but the idea of the competition in the first place was to encourage creative thought based around a theme within a limited time period, to see what you could come up with in that time.

We can differ on that opinion I reckon. I thought i was being "creative" by offering 3 different shots all from the same church.

I also think that the number of individuals entering has reduced, by people thinking that the challenge has become devalued

I disagree. I think it's more likely connected to public and school holidays. Just like the roads get emptier during school holidays so do the forums and therefore competitions. What I do think is we shouldn't be modifying the entry periods on a whim. People do like consistency and I think a regular consideration and entry period should be adhered to, whatever that maybe. It was always one week. Another point is if one judge extends the duration then the next either has to do same or face a smaller duration.

This will happen with challenge #18 which now has a closing date of a Tuesday evening, some 2 days later than our "normal" closing date - all because of holidays. So challenge #19 will be either 5 days or 12 days long presumably?

the standard of entries has declined somewhat from the early weeks

I don't think that's the case. I think recent weeks have seen some cracking entries! To state otherwise imparts a poor view of your fellow forum members and photographers. Not everyone has 30 years experience in the business...

So for the next theme glass, and as I will not be entering anymore of these challanges, please let me offer some suggestions {snip}

Do you really think you have anything to gain from posting such sarcasm Ed? :thinking:

not all as I would have chosed but that is the perogative and choice of the judge, and as in all competitions (whether seen as a fun thing or not) his decision is final.

And that's another aspect of the challenge people sometimes overlook - the opportunity to be the judge, to have to review and pick some winners. We're all different and not all of us have the experience of judging (or being judged even?).

That's put a real damper on things, hasn't it?

Not for me it hasn't Jenny. The sour ramblings of a disenfranchised old man won't stop me entering, nor many others I suspect. Let's keep in mind these challenges were set up to be creative, lighthearted and fun. An opportunity for everyone to participate regardless of skill and experience. Entries are bound to be low during the holiday season. That's why many camera clubs suspend meetings during the summer months...

What I'd like to suggest is the challenges become fortnightly with the first week for discussing the challenge and the 2nd week for posting the entries, and the images can be taken at any time within the 2 weeks. There should be no variations for holidays etc. Commencment starts on a monday and finishes on the sunday at 6pm, with judging taking place sunday evenings. Being fortnightly it should cater nicely for holidays etc. If the winner won't be around to judge then the mantle should pass to the 2nd place winner, etc.

What does everyone else think?
 
...The sour ramblings of a disenfranchised old man won't stop me entering, nor many others I suspect. Let's keep in mind these challenges were set up to be creative, lighthearted and fun. An opportunity for everyone to participate regardless of skill and experience. Entries are bound to be low during the holiday season. That's why many camera clubs suspend meetings during the summer months...

Well, that's a lot more tactfully put than my first reaction, I have to say!

I do agree that the challenges need to be creative, lighthearted and fun - I personally have enough things in my life that are miserable and drudge-work. Photography is an escape from this, and to find that a topic i'd chosen was the subject of arguments and so forth has been a bit of a sickener tbh. Then to be criticised for my "special mention" of the obviously off-topic photo's, the gentle irony (though I did actually like the bottle opener image) seemingly being completely missed.

I have to say, in general I like the format of the challenge being "for the days ahead" i.e. for a number of days as specified by the challenge setter, rather than for a rigid 1 week / 2 week period. However, as I've stated earlier in this thread I don't really DO bank holidays etc. so the hol's don't cause me problems. Then again, i've only just started in on these challenges, and i'm happy to fall in with what suits the majority.
 
The sour ramblings of a disenfranchised old man

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sour ramblings?

Would seem insinuate I was unhappy with the results or not being selected by the judge! My initial comment was made long before the competition finished, and my concerns since were the different methods employed by some to step outside the theme. We either have a theme or we don't!

After re-reading my post I will apologise for the sarcastic paragraphs, but my opinions on the spirit of the competition still stand, and however people want to dress it up was a means of circumventing the rules or theme.

disenfranchised?

Well, the last I was aware I had not had any voting or entering rights taken away!

Old man?

Well at 50, I suppose some might think me old, others may think of me as middle aged and even some even still call me young man (mind they are 80 & 89 respectively).


As for the results, I have no problem with them whatsoever. I did not expect my entry to get placed and only entered something to boost the entries before I went away.
 
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sour ramblings?

Would seem insinuate I was unhappy with the results or not being selected by the judge!

Yes, sour ramblings Ed. It didn't need to insinuate anything as it reflected what your post contained - bitter ramblings about the challenge in general. You have now apologised twice in this thread. That you have done that is indicative of unsuitable past postings. With 30 years tog experience under your belt you're an old man, not that there's not older ;) and you ought to know better. And disenfranchised because you stated your intent to no longer participate in these challenges - thus removing "entering and voting rights" yourself. Personally I think you made a rash knee-jerk reaction there and ought to reconsider it. :shrug:.

If you do reconsider let me offer you a well intended piece of advice - unless you're the judge keep your "public" mouth shut when you see something you don't like. Take it to PM, or better yet leave it to the judge. :)
 
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sour ramblings?

That's how it comes over to me matey!

Would seem insinuate I was unhappy with the results or not being selected by the judge! My initial comment was made long before the competition finished, and my concerns since were the different methods employed by some to step outside the theme. We either have a theme or we don't!

Oh get a life! or maybe find a theme for it!

After re-reading my post I will apologise for the sarcastic paragraphs, but my opinions on the spirit of the competition still stand, and however people want to dress it up was a means of circumventing the rules or theme.

Yawn....'spirit' ...forgive me if you are the architect/inventor of this competition, its format and its rules, I just stumbled upon your creation and obviously didn't understand...believe me I got it wrong both times I entered. First time you were right on my case about 'correctness' second time you waited for your recent proclamation to set the world to rights
disenfranchised?

Well, the last I was aware I had not had any voting or entering rights taken away!

didn't you just dictate that to yourself by deciding to leave?
Old man?

Well at 50, I suppose some might think me old, others may think of me as middle aged and even some even still call me young man (mind they are 80 & 89 respectively).

A mere youngster to me! and toys out of prams and running away in a huff just seems like typical juvenile behaviour...Grow up!


As for the results, I have no problem with them whatsoever. I did not expect my entry to get placed and only entered something to boost the entries before I went away.

Really generous of you that....


The challenge for this week (well for you anyway...oh I forgot you left) is rearrange these words in artistic order.

A LIFE GET
 
Closed the thread while I read through the thread and end up having to play teacher to the bickering children.
 
I've decided I'm going to leave this thread closed.
If a gentlemanly discussion can't be had, then it's best to say nothing at all ;)
 
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