15 June 2017 The End of Data Roaming Charges in the EU.

Its a bit vague though, it says

From 15 June 2017, users within the EU will be charged the same as they would in their home country.

what it doesn't say is users all inclusive data/min/texts will be used?

So I am guessing, it will be like being in the UK but being over your allowances?
 
Mr Bump said:
Its a bit vague though, it says

From 15 June 2017, users within the EU will be charged the same as they would in their home country.

what it doesn't say is users all inclusive data/min/texts will be used?

So I am guessing, it will be like being in the UK but being over your allowances?
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I read that to mean that your allowance is valid in any EU country, and if you go over it you'll be charged as if you were at home.
 
Ricardodaforce said:
Indeed, and if the UK decides to leave the EU then I hope travelers enjoy paying high data roaming charges.
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No change there then ;)
I wonder how many other so called sweeteners we'll see offered in the run up to the referendum?
 
Cobra said:
No change there then ;)
I wonder how many other so called sweeteners we'll see offered in the run up to the referendum?
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Of course 3 customers already get to use their data allowance in a clutch of other countries.
 
Ricardodaforce said:
I read that to mean that your allowance is valid in any EU country, and if you go over it you'll be charged as if you were at home.
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I don't read it that way, no where is that mentioned that a UK contract will be honoured in that way on a foreign network.
It simply states no additional costs will be levied, so if your network provisor charges 25p/minute out of your allowance, you will get charged the same say in Germany not an additional charge. same for texts it will be 10p (not the current 35p) when roaming.
 
Mr Bump said:
I don't read it that way, no where is that mentioned that a UK contract will be honoured in that way on a foreign network.
It simply states no additional costs will be levied, so if your network provisor charges 25p/minute out of your allowance, you will get charged the same say in Germany not an additional charge. same for texts it will be 10p (not the current 35p) when roaming.
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That's what I am saying.

The downside though is that I'm sure it will also be slow-speed connections as you currently get when in a Three At Home destination.
 
Mr Bump said:
I don't read it that way, no where is that mentioned that a UK contract will be honoured in that way on a foreign network.
It simply states no additional costs will be levied, so if your network provisor charges 25p/minute out of your allowance, you will get charged the same say in Germany not an additional charge. same for texts it will be 10p (not the current 35p) when roaming.
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I doubt the EU will allow that, they have to charge the same as at home, so if you have a 1000 minute allowance the calls will have to be deducted from that first. Charging you for the call whilst you still have an allowance wouldn't be the same as on the home network. Give the EU credit, they are pretty good at preventing that sort of shenanigan when they bring out this sort of directive.
 
Dave1 said:
I doubt the EU will allow that, they have to charge the same as at home, so if you have a 1000 minute allowance the calls will have to be deducted from that first. Charging you for the call whilst you still have an allowance wouldn't be the same as on the home network. Give the EU credit, they are pretty good at preventing that sort of shenanigan when they bring out this sort of directive.
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I think you are right, it just seems odd the wording doesn't say that as everyone is used to the use of "allowances" etc.
 
To exclude the use of allowances would be treating nationalities differently, which would be another breach of EU rules. The operators would be daft to be that provocative.

So they probably will :)
 
If you are on Vodafone you'd probably be able to stay on your home Vodafone tarif all round Europe. Today Vodafone will charge Vodafone customers more to use use Vodafone in another country. They failed to prove to the EU that it costs more to justify their huge roaming charges.
 
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Switzerland aren't in the EU but the data package with EE is covered in the EU package when I go over there
 
Is that at all times or only when in EE coverage, Kelly?
 
I'm assuming it's all times as I get full coverage in Zurich
 
kelack said:
Switzerland aren't in the EU but the data package with EE is covered in the EU package when I go over there
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I would imagine this is a reciprocal arrangement between the Swiss operators and those in the rest of Europe. Switzerland has opted-in to a number of European directives despite not being members.
 
Could be handy if all the tariffs and contracts apply throughout the EU - not for me but Mrs Nod runs her business from her phone while we're away and the costs add up (at the moment!) She tries to stick to WiFi for data rather than using ?G but sometimes, needs must.
 
We'll probably see the contracts changing to fit. I have no data roaming on my contract. Hopefully I'll be able to get the internet when I cross a border in future.
 
It's a shame 3's coverage isn't as good as the others but they're supposed to be buying O2 next year...
 
Ricardodaforce said:
I can only go from personal experience, but I never have issues.
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My personal experience is that it is patchy. No signal in lots of places it claims to have it. Many built up areas are no service or a single bar. Then I'll get 4g at 5 bars in the middle of nowhere!
 
Ricardodaforce said:
Of course 3 customers already get to use their data allowance in a clutch of other countries.
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Unfortunately I can't!

I'm on unlimited tethering (the old 'the one plan', and when in one of the partner countries my data is limited and tethering isn't allowed...
 
Rapscallion said:
Unfortunately I can't!

I'm on unlimited tethering (the old 'the one plan', and when in one of the partner countries my data is limited and tethering isn't allowed...
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you can still use your data, it's just limited to 25GB of phone data while abroad.
 
Dave1 said:
No one can tether, it isn't something unique to the one plan.
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Perhaps we're talking at cross purposes, but I was pointing out (in response to post 7) that on three you don't get the same allowance / benefits in their partner countries as you do in the UK.
 
Rapscallion said:
Perhaps we're talking at cross purposes, but I was pointing out (in response to post 7) that on three you don't get the same allowance / benefits in their partner countries as you do in the UK.
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What's included?
  • All calls and texts to UK numbers (within your standard allowance). 08 numbers are included in your standard allowance. If you go over your allowance, or don't have one, calls to 08 numbers will be charged at up to 16.6p a minute.
  • All your data usage (within your allowance).
  • It's always free to receive calls and texts in a Feel At Home destination. Don't forget that when you're calling or texting back to the UK, you'll need to replace the first 0 in the number you're calling or texting with +44.
  • You'll be able to stream and connect to Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) while in a Feel At Home destination but both of these will be slower than they are in the UK.
What's not included?
  • If you have all-you-can-eat data you can use up to 12GB. If you have all-you-can-eat texts you can send up to 5,000 texts. If you have 3,000 or more minutes included in your allowance you can use up to 3,000 minutes.
  • Numbers that start with 070, 09 and 118 directory services.
  • Feel At Home is designed for UK residents who are on holiday or business trips abroad, not for extended periods abroad.
  • You can't use your phone as a personal hotspot (tethering) while you're abroad.
  • You can’t use your minutes allowance to make calls to local or other international numbers, as you can only use your inclusive minutes to call UK numbers, whether you’re in the UK or a Feel At Home destination.
 
cambsno said:
Think it is probably better to spend more on the odd call and save 12bn on membership!
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The CBI would disagree with you (and say your figures were wrong).

Cost of the EU

The UK’s net budgetary contribution is a small net cost relative to the benefits
  • The UK’s net contribution to the EU budget is around €7.3bn, or 0.4% of GDP. As a comparison that’s around a quarter of what the UK spends on the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills, and less than an eighth of the UK’s defence spend. The £116 per person net contribution is less than that from Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Germany and the Netherlands.
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€7.3bn is £5.2bn

And benefit from the EU

  • A CBI literature review suggests that the net benefit of EU membership to the UK could be in the region of 4-5% of GDP or £62bn-£78bn a year – roughly the economies of the North East and Northern Ireland taken together.
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http://news.cbi.org.uk/campaigns/ou...t-2-benefits-of-eu-membership-outweigh-costs/
 
Dave1 said:
The CBI would disagree with you (and say your figures were wrong).

Cost of the EU



€7.3bn is £5.2bn

And benefit from the EU



http://news.cbi.org.uk/campaigns/ou...t-2-benefits-of-eu-membership-outweigh-costs/
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To be honest there are lots of figures by pro and anti eu and who knows which is correct? There are some merits to us staying and some for leaving but both sides (and I include myself) seem too blinkered.

It annoyed me the other day when someone said to Cameron we should be like norway and he retorted that it still costs Norway hundreds of millions to trade... That still beats the x billions we currently pay so was not a good argument back!
 
cambsno said:
It annoyed me the other day when someone said to Cameron we should be like norway and he retorted that it still costs Norway hundreds of millions to trade... That still beats the x billions we currently pay so was not a good argument back!
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It's all relative...
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I would rather pay £5 a minute and be out of the clutches of stupid laws or have to have a court that costs the taxpayer millions by allowing stupid cases to be appealed there.
 
andyscott said:
I would rather pay £5 a minute and be out of the clutches of stupid laws or have to have a court that costs the taxpayer millions by allowing stupid cases to be appealed there.
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where do you plan to move to?
 
andyscott said:
I would rather pay £5 a minute and be out of the clutches of stupid laws or have to have a court that costs the taxpayer millions by allowing stupid cases to be appealed there.
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Don't worry, our Westminster MPs are really good at stupid laws.
 
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