11.17am 14 years ago today

Thinking of you matey.

Keep looking forward to the excitement of togging with all your new gear... :)
 
Thinking of you matey.

Keep looking forward to the excitement of togging with all your new gear... :)


Couldnt have spent that moment with nicer people, Mr & Mrs Cowasaki.
 
Cheers it wasnt too bad this year we were talking with Darren and Helen, so it took my mind of it for an hour or so.
 
I was away in Wales that day if I hadn't been in Wales I would have been in the Arndale with my children, must have been a bad day glad today was a little better.
 
I was in Leeds that morning trying to get a train to Manchester at around 0915 but the train broke down and was cancelled so the trip was called off, a petty annoyance at the time but fate dealt me a good hand that day it soon transpired. I was in Manchester two days later and had to get from Victoria station to Picadilly and recall the absolute devastation throughout the city centre. My abiding memory is one of passing a nightclub and the song that was playing was 'The Bomb' by the Bucketheads which kind of summed up the Mancunian defiance at the time.
 
I cant begin to imagine how being in a bomb blast would be, the closest I've ever come to one was one night the IRA bombed the local TA office about a mile or two from my house, none of my sister's or I heard it but my dad did - and I suspect it brought back a lot of wartime memories for him. Sad thing is I know an awful lot of 17 year olds who have no idea who the IRA are, I wonder what else they have no knowledge of?

Hope you get your new camera soon and have fun using it.
 
I remember this well - I was a student midwife in Manchester at the time this happened. The following days of eerie silence with alarms ringing (sounds odd, I know) will stay with me forever.
 
I remember I was a little lad shopping with my dad, in JJB in the arndale, and my dad having an argument with the store manager, who was asking him to evacuate and wouldnt let him pay for a couple of T shirts, eventually we left and were guided out by the police, i remember the rumble of the explosion and things falling off of shelves in a a shop we went in further down the road, i remember turning round and seeing the big glass window wave like a sail in the wind, it must have been the only bit of glass in the street that didnt smash, and we were stood right by it, i remember the glass on the floor, people running, screaming, a look on my dads face that feared me to death, and I remember my instinct to run in the direction everyone else was running, and I remember my dad stopping me, telling me not to run, and to take a deep breath before we started walking. I also remember the cloud above the city as we drove out, one of the most frightening yet breathtaking things i think i have ever seen. I don't remember anyone ever say how close we were to being blown to pieces, what I have heard, correct me if im wrong, is that the store we were in was one of the ones obliterated by the blast. lucky me. I empathise with the OP, but took with me from the experience a lot of positives, i listen to people who are priveliged to more information than me, which i attribute to my daft dad arguing with a guy who said "evacuate", and im also the kind of person who will stand his ground and not panic, and generally try and manage a bad situation, which i attribute to my dad again, for making me walk slowly through the street, and not run like everyone else.
Im lucky that i was not injured, in fact, i didnt even drop my strawberry cornetto, and I'm lucky that my dad is the guy he is, he floored the car on the way home, i remember being excited at the speed, and i remember mum not knowing a thing about it when we got home! These were the days before mobiles were mainstream and dad had driven like a nutter to get home before mum saw anything on the news and have a chance to panic.

and to link to the OP again, i started this post remembering the general jist of what happened, but I'v been shocked at the level of detail i can remember, for example a quick exchange of verbals between my dad and a white van driver going toward town as we were buggin out! so I can only begin to imagine what someone like julian may have gone, and still be going through, and im lucky that i was young enough for my dads reactions to the situation to have sunken in and influenced how i will react tomorrow.

however, Im not too keen on a "memory eraser", can only be bad as any patient will only seek out what has been taken from his mind, which will lead to other problems.

post traumatic stress can be dealt with in so many other ways. any psychologists on here want to back me up?

anyway, enough baring of my psyche, wheres the bitchez at??
 
can't even begin to imagine what you must be going through mate

i really hope things get better for you
 
**** 29 pills a day jesus Jullian you deserve all the kit just for even doing that, would drive me crazy along never mind your stroke and the accident injurys.
 
We're all different of course, but I believe that some of us can shut things out selectively.

My worst experience was the plane crash on the M1 many years ago. I was one of the people driving south who saw the plane come down on the embankment and then managed to get on board.

Many years later, other people who had tried to help made claims for psychological damage and received huge payouts. Me? I just got on with what had to be done then went home and got on with my life, thankful that I wasn't one of the people in the front part of the plane. I had flashbacks for a few days but then it was over. In fact, my abiding memory was my mobile phone conversation with a particuarly stupid female police person (I had one of the very first mobiles). I gave her an exact location, 400 yards south of J24 and told her that we needed every fire engine and every ambulance there was but she just wouldn't accept what I was saying until she heard the sirens from the fire engines that had driven across the fields from E. Midlands airport. They had been standing by for the emergency landing that didn't happen. There would have been no survivors without those lads.
 
Bit of a near miss with me too, was on a tube train at Kings Cross on the night of the fire. Could smell burning when we pulled into the station, but they didn't open the doors and we pulled out again

Bad enough just knowing what might have been, dread to think what it must be like to be in the midst of it
 
We're all different of course, but I believe that some of us can shut things out selectively.

My worst experience was the plane crash on the M1 many years ago. I was one of the people driving south who saw the plane come down on the embankment and then managed to get on board.

Many years later, other people who had tried to help made claims for psychological damage and received huge payouts. Me? I just got on with what had to be done then went home and got on with my life, thankful that I wasn't one of the people in the front part of the plane. I had flashbacks for a few days but then it was over. In fact, my abiding memory was my mobile phone conversation with a particuarly stupid female police person (I had one of the very first mobiles). I gave her an exact location, 400 yards south of J24 and told her that we needed every fire engine and every ambulance there was but she just wouldn't accept what I was saying until she heard the sirens from the fire engines that had driven across the fields from E. Midlands airport. They had been standing by for the emergency landing that didn't happen. There would have been no survivors without those lads.

Bloody hell mate, I wish I had your way of thinking mate.

Bit of a near miss with me too, was on a tube train at Kings Cross on the night of the fire. Could smell burning when we pulled into the station, but they didn't open the doors and we pulled out again

Bad enough just knowing what might have been, dread to think what it must be like to be in the midst of it


Very lucky matey very lucky:|
 
I guess I've just been lucky and narrowly escaped major tragedies, but I'm sure my time will come....

On the day of the Manchester bombing, a few of us were heading into Manchester from Stockport, but the roads had been closed and we couldn't get there. Then the bomb went off.

On 7 July when the London underground was bombed, I was due to travel to London to see my partner. Warren Street (one the stations that was bombed) was the stop I usually changed trains, but for some reason I decided to drive instead.

I was in Thailand a couple of weeks before the Tsunami hit, staying at some of the locations that were severely affected.
 
I guess I've just been lucky and narrowly escaped major tragedies, but I'm sure my time will come....

On the day of the Manchester bombing, a few of us were heading into Manchester from Stockport, but the roads had been closed and we couldn't get there. Then the bomb went off.

On 7 July when the London underground was bombed, I was due to travel to London to see my partner. Warren Street (one the stations that was bombed) was the stop I usually changed trains, but for some reason I decided to drive instead.

I was in Thailand a couple of weeks before the Tsunami hit, staying at some of the locations that were severely affected.


[S1]Some ones looking after you on those occassions[/S1] :thumbs:
 
Hi been reading this, i was on 22 pills a day + fentanyl patches 75 micro gram slow release for pain, tablets to make you wake up tablets to make you sleep, tablets to stop me convulsing, tablets to stop me from having bad thoughts, (haloperidol) tablets for everything, then one night according to my wife i was sitting there watching telly when everything went blank my hands curled up my eyes rolled back in my head and i was out, woke up in north Manchester, the concoction i was on and the amount my body just shut down, the consultant said i had been lucky as they could not detect but suspect a very minor stroke. from that day i vowed to get off the pills somehow and 18 months later i am down to 2 tablets per day, it was a bloody hard fight, cold turkey effects for months, anyway with the help of my family and church and doctors consultants i am waiting to go back to work, for me (not for everyone ) i found peace and forgiveness it helped me immensely, my accident was all down to one guy at work who did not help me,in-fact he choice was not to help me, i have become stronger in my own way, and forgave him.<<<< this worked for me, just my little story.

i was in Royton Oldham up on oldham edge high up in my first house some 10 miles away in the back garden when i heard the explosion, i will never forget it,



Ta Mark
 
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Cheryl,

Someone is looking after you - what good fortune.

I used to pass through al the London targets when going to my London office or staying over near Russell Square.

Julian,

I cannot image what it was like to be involved in the Arndale situation.

All I know is that within 15 mins of the bomb going off my telephone rang to say that our Manchester office had been involved and as my offices were the disaster recovery centres I had to intiate the disaster plan. In consequence I was glued to the TV for info and in contact with our Manchester guys. The feedback for our office wasn't bad - we were lucky but locked out for a week. Others did not fare well.

I hope your new toys will take your thoughts far away from those days and replace them with happier times.

Ken
 
Couple of near misses for us too.

M6 doing 70mph middle lane, Nissan cherry flys past me, i pull out to overtake a car in middle lane, now behind nissan cherry about 250 yards in front, moment later tyres blows out on nissan, they do a 360 in front of us, driver has slammed on the brakes at some point they are facing us doing about 70 mph in the outside lane backwards, blue smoke ploughing off the tyres, bits of tyre hitting my windscreen, i think he did another 360 and somehow managed to spin right across the motorway and end up facing the right way on the hard shoulder, 3 generations in my car, very lucky, needless to say we where all very quite on our trip to my sisters after that.


second one

, 1/4 mile from our home walking with our new daughter in pram, electric board had been moving all the old concrete lamp posts from the curb edge and replacing them with new metal ones nearer the house boundary, walking along, all of a sudden this loud crash right behind us a car had mounted the pavement and hit the last concrete lamp post on the road smack bang in the middle of it, and right in line with us, the front of the car was a V shape, the lamp post landed not 3 feet away from us, the plastic lamp cover smashing all around us, i helped the driver and called for the emergency services, i held her hand while they came, she only lived round the corner as well, she never ever thanked me for helping her, nor did her husband, who arrived on the scene, could never figure out why. i just left it like that.


if that lamp post had been moved i dread to think what might of happened, but it wasn't so i wont.



Ta Mark
 
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