100% horse meat in some Findus beef lasagne!

TBH I'm more surprised that Findus lasagne actually contains real meat ;)

Seriously, this is why whenever I can I prefer to buy fresh meat from sources I trust and prepare my own meals.
A bit of horse would be the least of my worries in those pre-packed processed meals :gag:
 
If they want to use horse then that's fine but it must be labelled as such.

I have noticed some packaging just says 'meat' with no further information. That shouldn't be permissible. If its called meat something it needs to say what. Ditto unspecified fish.

If you have a beef product then I'd expect it to be 100% from that animal not from various species.
 
tiler65 said:
So are you sure none of your fish is trawler frozen?
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How can I be? ... but I know it's not kangaroo and I have as much confidence in Andy Race in Oban as I have in any supplier and the fish is very, very good. As most that I buy from them is smoked it's a bit of a moot point though.
 
cant see the big deal. To buy horse meat intentially is quite expensive. To get it in cheap value burgers, lasagne or spag bol is a bargain.

I appreciate people like to know what it is they are eating, but how many actually sit down and read the ingredients on the back and understand what all those extra things are? It bothers me when you get all these bbc scaremongery documentaries like "do you really know whats in your food" or "What really happens in restaurant kitchens." All that stuff really doesn't bother me, I have been eating it all my life, and I'm not going to stop now, if you really paid attention to everything the media tries to scare you with, then you wouldn't leave your house or eat anything.
 
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archamedes said:
cant see the big deal. To buy horse meat intentially is quite expensive. To get it in cheap value burgers, lasagne or spag bol is a bargain
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The bits in processed foods aren't the same bits a steak comes from (and that's assuming you got the animal you think you did). It's the same for all processed meats of course, not just horse.
 
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Davec223 said:
Yes I do give a rats where its come from for no other reason than flavour.
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Really. So if no-one had pointed out the origin of the meat, would you, youself, have been able to identify said flavour???
 
From my experience a piece of horsemeat tastes quite different from beef - though processed and mixed with the other who knows what in a processed meal, I'm not sure that you would.
 
I would be more concerned about what they are allowed to call 'meat' of any kind than the animal it supposedly comes from. Remember what Arkady used to call McD's burgers? "lips and R'soles"
 
Oops a doubler. (Edit: with cheese.)
 
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had horse before in Holland... from a deli.. paardevookfleisch... we worked out what vook fleisch was... smoked meat..........

looked up paarde - oh horse == went and got some more...

also eaten Zebra in S Africa, as well as many antelope and other wild things, camel, wildebeest...

Meat is meat.. would I try dog or cat? Sure.. why not?
 
Lynton said:
had horse before in Holland... from a deli.. paardevookfleisch... we worked out what vook fleisch was... smoked meat..........

looked up paarde - oh horse == went and got some more...

also eaten Zebra in S Africa, as well as many antelope and other wild things, camel, wildebeest...

Meat is meat.. would I try dog or cat? Sure.. why not?
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Exactly. And I have.
Anyone bleating about the origin of said flesh is just doing that imo...bleating.
Meat is meat.
 
viv1969 said:
Really. So if no-one had pointed out the origin of the meat, would you, youself, have been able to identify said flavour???
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That's not what I meant, I buy meat from the farm shop as it has far more flavour and in the case of beef hung longer than what is available in supermarkets. I eat meat because I enjoy it and want a good flavour and not something with little or no flavour
 
i must admit I often find it amusing in an indian restaurant.. where yuo can get, chicken vindaloo, lamb vindaloo, king prawn vindaloo, or meat vindaloo.......

I would like to think it's beef to cater for the UK market, given the hindu attitude to raw steak, (we'll serve it but cannot call it beef) however, it always tastes good...
 
Think the point is that as said what else have they been putting in that's possibly harmful
Have eaten horse on the continent was one of the best steaks I've ever had :D
 
gramps said:
So what????
You guys don't want to know what you're eating?
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Quite easy really. Don`t buy cheap crap food in supermarkets.Problem solved.
 
Just an update, the FSA have issued a warning not to eat any Findus products due to possible contamination from horse drugs that can have very rare complications in humans.
 
itsdavedotnet said:
Just an update, the FSA have issued a warning not to eat any Findus products due to possible contamination from horse drugs that can have very rare complications in humans.
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Good job I like my horse meat rare then
 
gramps said:
Suggestion that it's also been supplied to some schools ...
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Is that because we are more obsessed with money than our health, from the goverment down to the individual?

The answer ,in most cases is yes.
 
fracster said:
Quite easy really. Don`t buy cheap crap food in supermarkets.Problem solved.
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Plus one, as the youth of today would say.

I'd include all mass produced processed food though, not just the cheap stuff (unless that's what you meant).
 
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I believe we eat a lot worse when you considermechanically recovered meat in burgers and most fast food outlets
 
It's a disgusting situation!
I have no problems with eating horse, not that I knowingly have but it's all about labeling and trust.

For those that think it's ok, would this be acceptable,,,, you goto the chemist for some Aspirin, you go home take the pills then some months later you find out they were,,,, compressed flour for instance.
 
I think that some people are missing the point, or maybe there are 2 points...
1. It's fraudulent. Cattle are bred for their meat, it costs a lot to keep them during their lives and the process is very expensive. Old horses, destroyed when they become too old/injured/or for some other reason cost the slaughterers very little, so people are paying a premium price for a product that is dirt cheap.
2. Animal suffering. A lot of people are unhappy about the way live horses are transported and treated prior to slaughter. There are concerns about the welfare of many species of animals that are transported huge distances prior to slaughter, for example sheep - but horses are far more intelligent and far more fragile, so are likely to suffer far more.
 
I think most people are just having a giggle about it.
 
Garry Edwards said:
I think that some people are missing the point, or maybe there are 2 points...
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I would hazard a guess that most of the meat supplied in "Bargain Basemeat" foods is sourced abroad. Hence why they are cheap Garry. The majority of our abbatoirs are like a H&S and Hygeine love fest, abroad,well,they are not.

Plus, the brits are far more into animal welfare as a whole, than many of our european partners.
 
Captain Birdsye wetting his timbers as rumours abound his fish fingers contain seahorse
 
fracster said:
I would hazard a guess that most of the meat supplied in "Bargain Basemeat" foods is sourced abroad. Hence why they are cheap Garry. The majority of our abbatoirs are like a H&S and Hygeine love fest, abroad,well,they are not.

Plus, the brits are far more into animal welfare as a whole, than many of our european partners.
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This is the point that upsets many eaters of meat especially when confronted with a meat foodstuff they wouldn't consider eating. It doesn't make the meat any less good for you because 'us Brits' don't have it on our menus.

OK so the producers should know where the food is sourced and it should be labeled accordingly but the fuss that is horse is wrong. Horse is a perfectly good meat to eat.
 
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