10.5 hours in the hide - 29TH JUNE ANOTHER BUZZARD ADDED

[menthel]

Look on the bright side, you could have caught something far worse....










A cold!

 

[Koolpc]

Look on the bright side, you could have caught something far worse....










A cold!

Foot and mouth?

 

[Gremlin]

Not a lesson learnt just prepared to wait and wait, as you said that is "Wildlife photography"

and do you know what? I quite enjoyed it and would I do it again ...... answer yes, try again on Friday

Well in the great scheme of things it's not really that long !

As far as I remember Buzzards are scavengers and tend to be very lazy, no doubt Chris willl be along to correct me on this in due course !
They will just sit around and wait, also as with most wild creatures they won't expect to feed every day so if food is there it's a bonus and if you hang around after putting it down, then if they have fed the day before, of course they are not going to be in any hurry to feed again.
What you need to do is establish a routine, go up with food at the same time and then just sit quietly in the hide and wait, it may take a few days but once they get use to it they will come and feed.
Oh and do go and shoot a rabbit or two, would look far more natural then the buzzard appearing to have killed or found a dead chicken wing !!!

 

[Cobra]

Well as Ingrid has rightly said they are scavengers
but will hunt if they must. Baring this in mind, its road kill that they would usually eat,
along with worms and beetles etc.

OK this is what I would do if it were me
( I only have 16 years experience with (Mostly captive) BOP's so it may or may not work )
And again as already suggested, they have a slow metabolic rate ( unlike spars, gos's etc)
and only have to feed every couple of days, certainly in this weather.

So, go shoot yourself a rabbit last thing at night, ( steel shot only, though, as lead does kill BOP's very quickly)
and before 1st light, slit it wide open, with entrails showing and leave as where desired.
( but it might be worth staking it down if you have foxes to stop them nicking it)

walk away

repeat this for a few (alternate) days whether or not the one before has been eaten
but remove the "old one" if not.

It will take time.
but eventually and probably as it gets colder and food slightly scarcer, it will start to "look" for the food.

only when you are getting regular "feeds" then would I settle in the hide after placing said rabbit, in the desired position.
But don't forget they are not stupid so just leave the hide where it is with no "additions or subtractions"

What you also have to think about is the "weather conditions" is it good soaring weather?
It takes a lot of effort for a buzzard to get into the air, and stay there.
If there is no up draft or thermals ( watch the seagulls / corvids they will give you an indecation)

If its not a "good flying day", as said, buzzards are lazy and will sit in a tree /
on a tall post and hope that something wanders by, or gets splattered quite close.

Also don't forget that buzzards will be hunting at first light
if they kill / feed soon then great they have all day to put the crop over and just generally blob out.
if not then they have all day to find something (hopefully)




hope that helps

 

[Briony]

Yep, I told you I would get one today - o.k yes it is captive but I got one to remind me of what I am looking for, out of my "porta loo" as Brian (Fernface) calls it

Fracster, he calls my hide a Porta Loo, sort him out please

Watch out for the rats in the morning Brian !!!!!!!!!!!

Shot through fencing, not the best shot but better ones will be here one day

 

[fracster]

That is how proper wildlife photography is. Sometimes you can be there an hour and see all sorts, sometimes the extreme opposite, such is life.

 

[jennyb]

Hi Nicki, you really do have some patience. I can't manage more than an hour in my hide. Can I suggest taking a nice bottle of wine with you - hic!

Jenny

 

[Leeb]

Please don't take this the wrong way, it isn't meant as it may sound, I just genuinely don't understand. Why? Can someone explain what makes you spend that amount of time in a mini shed, waiting for something and just get a photo of it. Do you then sell the photos? Or are they commissioned or am I miles off, and it's just the photo version of fishing?

Do you ever print the photos, or do they just end up sitting on a hard drive forever more?

Forgive my ignorance, I just don't quite get it.

 

[Briony]

I do it because it is a challenge to me, a) to get as much wildlife as possible, b) to better my photography all the time.

Yes I do print and frame the nice ones I have, and also they go into greeting cards.

No, I am not sad just dedicated and enjoy being outdoors all of the time. :shrug:

I have just come out of a real bad patch where I nearly gave up photography altogether, but now realise how much I do enjoy it and want to better myself all the time. I dare say that I will hit another bad patch sometime down the line but don't we all.

You only live once. !

 

[Leeb]

I do it because it is a challenge to me, a) to get as much wildlife as possible, b) to better my photography all the time.

Yes I do print and frame the nice ones I have, and also they go into greeting cards.

No, I am not sad just dedicated and enjoy being outdoors all of the time. :shrug:

I have just come out of a real bad patch where I nearly gave up photography altogether, but now realise how much I do enjoy it and want to better myself all the time. I dare say that I will hit another bad patch sometime down the line but don't we all.

You only live once. !

Fair play, I think that once you start doing it for a living the fun element diminishes somewhat.

I genuinely wasn't judging just wondered what the motivation was.

 

[Briony]

Update, Brian (Fernface) got to his hide at 5 a.m. today and still there while I type, he says he is staying till dark,

I have actually moved my hide this morning and have had to come back for farm stuff, but will go back again this afternoon/ evening, till dark, but at least I have seen them flying close by to me, so that is an improvement.

Watch this space ............................................

 

[fernface]

Well 14 hrs in the hide and no wildlife pics, i did get one shot that i thought i would share. Briony had a good day shooting from her "portaloo", now i know she is a woman AND a canon owner, but surely she should have known:......



...that the toilet paper needs to go on the inside

 

[cosmix3]

you did it then

Well 14 hrs in the hide and no wildlife pics, i did get one shot that i thought i would share. Briony had a good day shooting from her "portaloo", now i know she is a woman AND a canon owner, but surely she should have known:......



...that the toilet paper needs to go on the inside

 

[fernface]

I certainly did, didnt know what time she was coming down this morning, so had to get it a hurry Hope she doesnt ban me!!

 

[cosmix3]

I certainly did, didnt know what time she was coming down this morning, so had to get it a hurry Hope she doesnt ban me!!

I would be more worried about RAT'S if I was you

 

[Briony]

:razz: very funny, at least my "Porta loo" enables me to get pictures like this after 1/2 and hour let alone 14 hours,

Oh by the Way Brian there is now and entrance fee to the field, say £20 per day, and also watch and check under your tarpaulin in your hide, just in case there is a RAT lurking and lying in wait

 

[fernface]

What took you so long, was expecting to see that shot, really good. Reckon we could have a truce, at least until i get the Buzzard shot

 

[Briony]

What took you so long, was expecting to see that shot, really good. Reckon we could have a truce, at least until i get the Buzzard shot

What took me so long?

a) I was cooking dinner.

b) I was going through all my magnificent shots and trying to pick one but I was spoilt for choice where's yours then

Think I may go again tomorrow and get the Buzzard, hight time I got that now as getting very bored with kites.

Anyone want to join me there is a hide I can rent ?

 

[fernface]

What took me so long?

a) I was cooking dinner.

b) I was going through all my magnificent shots and trying to pick one but I was spoilt for choice where's yours then

Think I may go again tomorrow and get the Buzzard, hight time I got that now as getting very bored with kites.

Anyone want to join me there is a hide I can rent ?

Sick of all this now, now about that truce

 

[Briony]

 

[Rovers_Andy]

That is how proper wildlife photography is. Sometimes you can be there an hour and see all sorts, sometimes the extreme opposite, such is life.

I normally get the allsorts

 

[Briony]

Also saw a fox, but too far to take any shots, and also another hare, plenty of buzzards around but non hungry today. :shrug:

 

[Briony]

Just been down to the site to feed and the kites are feeding well, re baited the sites with stuff, i.e rabbits and chickens from the farm that have not suvived an attack after the foxes, they do like their chicken and then going back later, also there was a buzzard sitting up in the tree above my hide, so heres hoping they are getting the message.

Going down in the dark tomorrow.

Fingers crossed.

 

[Rough Edges]

Erm just a word or caution. feeding of Red Kites is illegal without a licence. They are a protected species and any interferance can result in prosecution under the wildlife and countryside act.
Doesn't do the kites any good either.

 

[Bendihossan]

Sounds like you have the same luck I have when I go up to the Mach Loop.

 

[Briony]

Erm just a word or caution. feeding of Red Kites is illegal without a licence. They are a protected species and any interferance can result in prosecution under the wildlife and countryside act.
Doesn't do the kites any good either.

Absolute rubbish, I have contacted all the necessary people including the national trust, BBONT and RSPCA, and they have said nothing to the contrary,:bang: they "feed" themselves on my own chickens and chicks in the yard, who am I to tell them "not to do it, it is illegal" we have had this debate before and until I am arrested then I shall continue (they will have to find me first without trespassing on my land and that wil be impossible )

also I shoot rabbits and leave them in the field for the kites, is that classed as "feeding them" - illegal or not !!!!!!!!!!!!
I am actually in theory then leaving out food for the badgers, foxes, buzards etc so you had better get down here and tell the Kites that the "cafe is shut" to them, because they are a protected species and they will have to fend for themselves, if they don't find enough food then they will not be a potective species, they will be extinct.

So I just happen to be in the right place at the right time when the Kites actually land, if I have to get round this one, which I don't !!!!!!!!!

Have a nice day !

 

[fernface]

And there is a "Guard Dog" living in one of the hides

 

[Rough Edges]

Absolute rubbish, I have contacted all the necessary people including the national trust, BBONT and RSPCA, and they have said nothing to the contrary,:bang: they "feed" themselves on my own chickens and chicks in the yard, who am I to tell them "not to do it, it is illegal" we have had this debate before and until I am arrested then I shall continue (they will have to find me first without trespassing on my land and that wil be impossible )

Have a nice day

also I will add that I shoot rabbits and leave them in the field for the kites, is that classed as "feeding them" - illegal or not !!!!!!!!!!!!

Feeding any protected species strictly speaking is an offence including that of Mute Swans.

I suggest you read the wildlife and countryside act properly. the bodies you mention may not be the right people to speak to.

One of my neighbours was involved in the re-introduction of Red Kites in Buckinghamshire, so I take it he knows the law.

Any interferance of a protected species is criminal. that is why licences are issued to those in official contact with them.

 

[Rough Edges]

The red Kite is protected under section 1 under the highest level of prtection... I agree that "iterferance" is open to interpretation, but purposeful putting out of food bought from a shop or taken from the fridge is the worst thing they can have in their diet and that is also wherre it is illegal.
It is also why it is illegal to be within a specific distance of a badger sett etc....

http://www.jncc.gov.uk/PDF/waca1981_part1.pdf

 

[Briony]

The red Kite is protected under section 1 under the highest level of prtection... I agree that "iterferance" is open to interpretation, but purposeful putting out of food bought from a shop or taken from the fridge is the worst thing they can have in their diet and that is also wherre it is illegal.
It is also why it is illegal to be within a specific distance of a badger sett etc....

http://www.jncc.gov.uk/PDF/waca1981_part1.pdf

I am NOT feeding them I am merely leaving food where it was shot,, and I class food as rabbit, pheasants, good food for them (if they happen to eat it), and left where it was shot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! none of the run of the mill supermarket stuff all organic I hasten to add and most of it shot by me (except the chickens but they are free range so nothing to harm them )


As for badger setts, I am not near one as far as I know, anyway, but if a badger was to walk and find this food then I am not held responsible, or do you want me to put up some signposts :bang:

I cannot find anything in that "act" that specifically says you cannot feed them natural foodsources, and I am not reading through the whole thing now as I am of out with my camera to find some "wildlife"




As I said there is only a couple of people know where I go, and if they happen to come on the land to prosecute me then the tables will be turned, also if they find me it will be a miracle.

Please do not hi jack this thread open another one to continue this discussion, please.

 

[Briony]

Right trying to get this thread back on track :razz,

Spent a couple of hours in the hide this afternoon all very quiet, until the combine moved in and then it was home time, corn comes first, but I did get this little person tap, tap, tapping away behind me, taken through mesh as I do not have an opening window at the back just a mesh window.

 

[Briony]

Woke up at 4.45 today and it was chucking it, so decided to stay put for another hour or so, then get a text "are you in porta loo or bed" !!!!!!!!!!!! thanks Brian !!! went down and sat in very wet hide and then had a couple of shots of kites on the ground, text Brian and then I find out I have a neighbour moving in next to me How dare he, after he was so rude about my hide, anyway, rebuilt his hide and then sat and waited, balers moved in to do the field, kites all around and buzzards singing, Jays dancing outside the hides.

I have left Brian as Kites were cirlcing above and landing in the trees. I did have to tell him though no noise and sit still

Hope he was rewarded with the goods

 

[fracster]

Good God,some people.Just caught up on this Nicki. Now don`t go feeding them kites anymore, you hear............:shake:

I`d better stop feeding all sorts of things over the winter as well.

 

[Briony]

Good God,some people.Just caught up on this Nicki. Now don`t go feeding them kites anymore, you hear............:shake:

I`d better stop feeding all sorts of things over the winter as well.

Here is a shot I took today and look in the foreground a NATURAL RABBIT LYING WHERE IT WAS SHOT.

I told the kite not to eat it but he did not listen

Now you stop feeding all those things up there or else :nono: :nono: :nono:

 

[fracster]

Discipline Nicki, discipline those unruly heedless birds............

 

[Briony]

Not sure if I will make it to the hide today - look at the weather :shrug: may have to do some housework instead :razz:

 

[GRECIAN]

I do feel for you, i spent 5 hours waiting in hope for a Kingfisher last week at a spot i was told one came to at high tide.
I was there 1 hour before high tide and sat and waited but could not bring myself to walk away as i feared he would still turn up as soon as i keft.

 

[Briony]

Sod the housework I am going down this morning for a couple of hours.
Until I get washed away, after all birds need food :shrug:

 

[fernface]

Not sure if I will make it to the hide today - look at the weather :shrug: may have to do some housework instead :razz:

Will not be adding to my 31 hour sojourn today either, typical dark, grey, manky August day:shake: Suppose it might brighten later though........

 

[jerry12953]

Erm just a word or caution. feeding of Red Kites is illegal without a licence. They are a protected species and any interferance can result in prosecution under the wildlife and countryside act.
Doesn't do the kites any good either.

As far as I know it is only illegal to disturb them at or near the nest......