XCSOURCE or Yongnuo YN-622C triggers?

[lolage]

Hi

The Yongnuo YN-622C always seem to get good reviews for the price, but the XCSOURCE ones have good reviews on amazon and cost just £10? (http://www.amazon.co.uk/XCSOURCE-Ch...&qid=1394035310&sr=8-1&keywords=radio+trigger)

Any experience with these? I'm starting out in studio flash photography, have shot nightclub stuff for ages so have a basic understanding but never really shot off camera! I don't really see a need for ETTL when doing studio photography as I'll probably want to be in control of the lighting anyway? Also, are there any cheap manual flashes that will work well with a 430EXII and my 5Dmk3?

Thanks,

Ben

 

[kar1]

If your going manual only and don't require a shutter speed above 1/250 then the cheapos will probably be fine. Can't comment on them though as never seen one. May be false economy though.

I've got the yn622s and they great. Work with ttl, hss and groupings.

A cheaper option but still decent build and reliability try the rf603 triggers by yongnuo.

Cheap flashes, yn560. As powerful as sb900. Reliable. Manual only.

 

[lolage]

Cheers

Are the 622C's good enough for action shooting? Was recomended before to get pocket wizards as they can use a higher shutter speed but the YN 622C can do this:

- Shutter Sync mode: 1st curtain, 2nd curtain, high speed sync (HSS/FP), Max 1/8000s sync speed

Surely this is good enough for action sports too? Mountain biking in particular.

 

[kar1]

Yeah they can fire up to 1/8000 so more than capable. Tbf 1/100 is fast enough as the flash will freeze action anyway. You'll be using the exposure triangle to control the ambient exposure more than anything. Then set Flash power to give what you need

 

[lolage]

Can they fire up to 1/8000 with a 430EXII or just YN's flashes?

 

[kar1]

Depends if your Flash can. It will always fire, just may not be in sync. But to get over that you have to run the flash at full power. Running at full power gives a long enough Flash duration so that it "in effect" syncs. Hypersync, or tail method. If your Flash supports hss then you'll have full control over power.

For example. I have 3 yn flashes. A 560 and 2x 560ii. When I use my 622 triggers I can fire at any speed I like. Any speed upto 1/250 I have full control over power. After that the only way I can get it to sync is to have it on full power. But obviously there is limitations on exposure. Having a hss supported Flash solves this

 

[HoppyUK]

Can they fire up to 1/8000 with a 430EXII or just YN's flashes?

Unless you're very close, you'll not have enough power for either high speed sync or tail-hypersync. Both techniques are very wasteful of flash output.

This vid of Dave Black shooting motocross makes the point, and he's using eight big guns ganged together in HSS mode

 

[SeedyBee]

Can they fire up to 1/8000 with a 430EXII or just YN's flashes?

The 430EXII has a max of 1/4000S.

 

[lolage]

Depends if your Flash can. It will always fire, just may not be in sync. But to get over that you have to run the flash at full power. Running at full power gives a long enough Flash duration so that it "in effect" syncs. Hypersync, or tail method. If your Flash supports hss then you'll have full control over power.

For example. I have 3 yn flashes. A 560 and 2x 560ii. When I use my 622 triggers I can fire at any speed I like. Any speed upto 1/250 I have full control over power. After that the only way I can get it to sync is to have it on full power. But obviously there is limitations on exposure. Having a hss supported Flash solves this

Cheers.

Unless you're very close, you'll not have enough power for either high speed sync or tail-hypersync. Both techniques are very wasteful of flash output.

This vid of Dave Black shooting motocross makes the point, and he's using eight big guns ganged together in HSS mode

Yeah, I'll either be using the flashes quite close to the subject or in wooded areas so sunlight straight away will be lost so I should be fine?

The 430EXII has a max of 1/4000S.

Thanks!