Working with JPEG and raw in photomechanic and LR?

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For events I’m shooting primarily JPEG with raw as backup. I find ingest, preview and selection much faster in photomechanic so I’m doing that first then dragging the selection into LR for any editing tweaks or adjusting metadata before exporting.

Question is what’s the best way to work with the pairs of jpeg and raw files, to use primarily the jpegs only going to raw if needed?

The fastest method for me at the moment is saving jpeg and raw to separate cards in camera then only ingesting the jpegs and searching for a raw if I ever need it. I’d really like the raws to travel with the jpegs if possible.

Hope the question makes sense if not please let me know what needs clarification.
 
Not too sure on what I think I recall, as I never used that function, was that in LR 6 you can set the import to put raw & jpegs into separate import folders.

As I say I may be completely mis-remembering and/or thinking of another program I came across ;)

Sorry in advance if that is wrong or of no help :thinking:
 
Write both jpeg and RAW to the card in camera?
 
@newbie1

Personally I would let Photo Mechanic do the heavy lifting.

Shoot both RAWs and JPEGs to the same card in camera, ingest the files into a single folder, have Photo Mechanic display both file types in the browser as one combined thumbnail image.
(On Mac: Photo Mechanic > View > Combined RAW+JPEG - [cmd-J] will toggle the view from combined view to separated view, as desired.)
(On Mac: Photo Mechanic > Preferences > Contact Sheet > select Combine RAW+JPEG into single thumbnail)

Ensure your preferences are setup so Photo Mechanic will use the JPEGs when you "Edit Photos" [cmd-E], which should launch Lightroom (assuming it's set as the default application within Photo Mechanic) and bring up Lightroom's import dialog box with your chosen images already selected.
(On Mac: Photo Mechanic > Preferences > Launching > Default application to edit photos: > Assign default application)
(On Mac: Photo Mechanic > Preferences > Launching > When in RAW+JPEG mode, editing a photo will: > select Edit the JPEG photo)

This will require testing before you cover an event! Some people have experienced Lightroom not selecting the chosen images in the import dialogue when using Photo Mechanic's "Edit Photos" command, however it always worked perfectly for me.

Alternatively you could copy the JPEGs of your selected images to another folder prior to importing into Lightroom. Ensure you select RAW+JPEG handling > Process JPEG files only in Photo Mechanic's Copy Options dialogue.

This all sounds a bit convoluted, but once it's setup and tested, everything should work simply, quickly and efficiently from then on.

If you have any questions wrt Photo Mechanic, I would head over to Photo Mechanic's support forums where developers and experienced users are generally very responsive.
 
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Box Brownie said:
Not too sure on what I think I recall, as I never used that function, was that in LR 6 you can set the import to put raw & jpegs into separate import folders.

As I say I may be completely mis-remembering and/or thinking of another program I came across ;)

Sorry in advance if that is wrong or of no help :thinking:
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Thank you I’ll check that out! An improvement on the current workflow if it’s possible.
 
TonyHall said:
@newbie1

Personally I would let Photo Mechanic do the heavy lifting.

Shoot both RAWs and JPEGs to the same card in camera, ingest the files into a single folder, have Photo Mechanic display both file types in the browser as one combined thumbnail image.
(On Mac: Photo Mechanic > View > Combined RAW+JPEG - [cmd-J] will toggle the view from combined view to separated view, as desired.)
(On Mac: Photo Mechanic > Preferences > Contact Sheet > select Combine RAW+JPEG into single thumbnail)

Ensure your preferences are setup so Photo Mechanic will use the JPEGs when you "Edit Photos" [cmd-E], which should launch Lightroom (assuming it's set as the default application within Photo Mechanic) and bring up Lightroom's import dialog box with your chosen images already selected.
(On Mac: Photo Mechanic > Preferences > Launching > Default application to edit photos: > Assign default application)
(On Mac: Photo Mechanic > Preferences > Launching > When in RAW+JPEG mode, editing a photo will: > select Edit the JPEG photo)

This will require testing before you cover an event! Some people have experienced Lightroom not selecting the chosen images in the import dialogue when using Photo Mechanic's "Edit Photos" command, however it always worked perfectly for me.

Alternatively you could copy the JPEGs of your selected images to another folder prior to importing into Lightroom. Ensure you select RAW+JPEG handling > Process JPEG files only in Photo Mechanic's Copy Options dialogue.

This all sounds a bit convoluted, but once it's setup and tested, everything should work simply, quickly and efficiently from then on.

If you have any questions wrt Photo Mechanic, I would head over to Photo Mechanic's support forums where developers and experienced users are generally very responsive.
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Tony, thank you very much! I'll test it out now. I have tried something similar however had problems with the transfer to LR. Much appreciated. Need to be quick tonight :)
 
Hi Tim @newbie1

I went aGoogling and found ref Tobit being on the Preferences but still not clear whether that shows/catalogues separately only or there is a folder structure related element available???

https://www.google.com/search?q=lightroom+importing+raw+&+jpeg+to+own+folders&oq=lightroom+importing+raw+&+jpeg+to+own+folders&aqs=chrome..69i57.23416j0j7&client=ms-android-motorola&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Not sure what happened there as it does not go to the exact search i did
My criteria was. lightroom importing raw & jpeg to own folders

This is one single site that talks about it!
https://www.remosoftware.com/info/h...g-file-use-lightroom-to-split-a-raw-jpeg-file

Best of luck finding a solution that works for you :)
 
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Box Brownie said:
Hi Tim @newbie1

I went aGoogling and found ref Tobit being on the Preferences but still not clear whether that shows/catalogues separately only or there is a folder structure related element available???

https://www.google.com/search?q=lightroom+importing+raw+&+jpeg+to+own+folders&oq=lightroom+importing+raw+&+jpeg+to+own+folders&aqs=chrome..69i57.23416j0j7&client=ms-android-motorola&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Not sure what happened there as it does not go to the exact search i did
My criteria was. lightroom importing raw & jpeg to own folders

This is one single site that talks about it!
https://www.remosoftware.com/info/h...g-file-use-lightroom-to-split-a-raw-jpeg-file

Best of luck finding a solution that works for you :)
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Thanks this helps a lot!
 
admirable said:
Write both jpeg and RAW to the card in camera?
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Hi Jim, when I've tried saving both to the same card as they travel through the workflow with default settings you end up working with the raw version in LR which slows the whole process down massively due to the file sizes. Working with JPEGs is much faster, and with the tips above to change how I'm using LR and PM together now it's working such that I can now save both the card, make the selection, but then only edit the JPEGs while still having the raws easily available if needed.
 
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