Windows 10 Fall update........fail?

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So far very happy with Windows 10, until last night I ran the Fall update:

Took an hour, boot time now several minutes, wifi is off so the task bar tells me, but if I open a browser window all is well!

Windows key doesn't respond, unable to access control panel, until several reboots later I have a sluggish laptop which still tries to tell me wifi is off, though I'm here, online, writing a thread.

Anyone else having problems? About to go back to the restore point before this "update".
 
I'm sat in front of the wife's new laptop, waiting for this dam update to finish. Just reading this post when it completed and all went well....took ages though.
 
Glad it worked out, I'm using a Dell, what machine were you updating?
 
It a Hp laptop, brand new out of the box, so maybe I was lucky.
 
Does take a while to install, even on the faster machines. Remember its essentially a major update to the os.

Had no bother after though, maybe give it a bit of time to settle down. Might be still updating some post update settings, especially on a slower machine.
 
i7 16gb ram you're right it's a little more responsive now, lots of hdd activity, will wait & see
 
Can access control panel now, still telling me not connected to the net?!?
 
neil_g said:
Got an exclamation on the network icon?

Could just be slow to resolve DNS. What do you use for DNS server?
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It shouldn't be slow on DNS because apparently Win 10 has broken with the old protocols and now "Windows 10 DNS resolver sends DNS requests in parallel to all available network interfaces and uses the fastest reply to come."

Unfortunately this comes with a downside "If you use DNS from the local network, this problem allows your ISP or a hacker with Wi-Fi ap to hijack your DNS records even if you use VPN."

https://SPAM/@ValdikSS/beware-of-windows-10-dns-resolver-and-dns-leaks-5bc5bfb4e3f1#.nab2v1ru1

https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/18177/dns-leak-with-windows-10
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petersmart said:
It shouldn't be slow on DNS because apparently Win 10 has broken with the old protocols and now "Windows 10 DNS resolver sends DNS requests in parallel to all available network interfaces and uses the fastest reply to come."

Unfortunately this comes with a downside "If you use DNS from the local network, this problem allows your ISP or a hacker with Wi-Fi ap to hijack your DNS records even if you use VPN."

https://SPAM/@ValdikSS/beware-of-windows-10-dns-resolver-and-dns-leaks-5bc5bfb4e3f1#.nab2v1ru1

https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/18177/dns-leak-with-windows-10
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Excellent, I knew something was going on but didn't have the time to investigate what it was. This has saved me a lot of effort.
 
petersmart said:
It shouldn't be slow on DNS because apparently Win 10 has broken with the old protocols and now "Windows 10 DNS resolver sends DNS requests in parallel to all available network interfaces and uses the fastest reply to come."

Unfortunately this comes with a downside "If you use DNS from the local network, this problem allows your ISP or a hacker with Wi-Fi ap to hijack your DNS records even if you use VPN."

https://SPAM/@ValdikSS/beware-of-windows-10-dns-resolver-and-dns-leaks-5bc5bfb4e3f1#.nab2v1ru1

https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/18177/dns-leak-with-windows-10
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which is great, but has nothing to do with what im talking about.

you still have a set of DNS servers on your connection, irrespective of what network interface it looks for them. if those DNS servers are giving out slow responses then you generally get an exclamation on the network icon.

i dont believe those articles though. i get different results using vpn as to what sites i can and cannot get to.
 
Got no access to network icons at all, just the airplane mode icon on the taskbar telling mewifi is turned off, though it isn't. Any ideas before I roll back to the last restore point, if I can access control panel.
 
FFS! There seem to be no restore points created in windows 10! Thought this was on by default......also says I'm not connected to the home network............:(
 
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If I go back to a previous build will this act like a restore point?
 
No help to you but this Dell XPS laptop updated in a little under an hour from start of download to re-use ... i5 16GB Ram.
 
did my HP probook took about two hours
left it alone all the while watched a few Walking Deads :-)

All good
 
Mad Badger said:
Got no access to network icons at all, just the airplane mode icon on the taskbar telling mewifi is turned off, though it isn't. .
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presumably you have tried the normal key/switch on the laptop that turns the network off? does it work on a network cable? do you have errors in device manager for the wireless adapter?
 
Mad Badger said:
If I go back to a previous build will this act like a restore point?
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Don't know about the restore point but you get a choice to keep your data files.

Say ta ta to all your programs though!
 
neil_g said:
presumably you have tried the normal key/switch on the laptop that turns the network off? does it work on a network cable? do you have errors in device manager for the wireless adapter?
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Yes, Fn+F2 toggles wifi on &off, just the taskbar insists it's always off.

Device manager says all is well, works ok over ethernet. too.

Boot times a bit faster but still way slower than pre "update".....will stick with it.
 
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