Why are dedicated/SDSL lines still so expensive?

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We are waiting on FTTC at the office as the exchange has been done, just waiting for our cabinet to be upgraded. Currently stuck with 4Mbit down and .5 up :(

Got an email offering 'substantial discounts' on dedicated lines, 42% discount for November only.

So I send an email off to the company to see what they come up with.

Got the pricing today, complete bargain, can't see why more companies don't do it.

If I go for 3 or 5 year contract, I get free connection fee.

10 meg connection (10 meg up and 10 meg down)

3 year annual rental - £7,875 + VAT

£650 a month!!!!! For a decent internet speed


How can they charge that when I have 60Mbit down and 15Mbit up at home for £35 a month
 
Your home connection is 'shared' with up to 50 other households in your neighbourhood using the same line from the cabinet back to the exchange. That is why it slows up in the evening for example when more people are using it.

Your dedicated line in the office is exactly that, dedicated to your company with no contention issues. Overall it will more than likely be faster than your home connection in real terms.
 
Interestingly, just checked on inifinity at the office on BT.com and we will be getting it from the 31st December!!!!!

41Mbit down and 6.5Mbit up. I think I might take 2. :)
 
Ploddles said:
Your home connection is 'shared' with up to 50 other households in your neighbourhood using the same line from the cabinet back to the exchange. That is why it slows up in the evening for example when more people are using it.

Your dedicated line in the office is exactly that, dedicated to your company with no contention issues. Overall it will more than likely be faster than your home connection in real terms.
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Neither of those apply when you are on fibre - you're not normally contended back to the exchange and fibre is way faster than 10/10 these days.... (see

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If they can charge through the nose they will. BT still charge a fortune for ISDN.

All the leased/dedicated lines will disappear very quickly once fibre is rolled out.

With adsl you have the option to go bonded with multiple lines to increase speed. Much cheaper than £650 a month...

http://www.eclipse.net.uk/bonded-dsl
 
I would assume that "home" internet also doesn't have service level agreements to back them up - business access does.
 
We are currently with Be who don't do business products, just home. So looking forward to leaving them.

Just counting down to the 31st December for fibre to be activated
 
Dale_d3100 said:
We are currently with Be who don't do business products, just home. So looking forward to leaving them.

Just counting down to the 31st December for fibre to be activated
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I hope it wasn't like here: we were promised fibre end Q1/2011. It arrived May this year :(

I used to Be with Be. I think they have missed the boat not having a fibre package.
 
the date is on the bt site for our location, the exchange went live with fttc earlier this year.

We are impatient, downloading 32Gb backups is taking too long at the moment :(
 
arad85 said:
I used to Be with Be. I think they have missed the boat not having a fibre package.
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totally agre and a proper shame....great isp and although the call centre base seems to be in Bulgaria, they were nothing but helpful. Best customer service I have ever dealt with.
 
OutLore said:
I would assume that "home" internet also doesn't have service level agreements to back them up - business access does.
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that.

i doubt you could get a 1hr SLA on a home internet package.

youre also paying for guaranteed up time and/or better resilience and monitoring on some services. if our BT fibre between sites fails BT call us normally within a few minutes of us detecting it (last time a gas company dug through the fibre..).
 
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srichards said:
If they can charge through the nose they will. BT still charge a fortune for ISDN.

All the leased/dedicated lines will disappear very quickly once fibre is rolled out.

With adsl you have the option to go bonded with multiple lines to increase speed. Much cheaper than £650 a month...

http://www.eclipse.net.uk/bonded-dsl
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we've had SDSL here for years, its still here and connected for legacy reasons (we'd have to completely redo our firewalls and we dont have time).

a lot of business will be in the same boat, i cant see SDSL going anywhere soon.

otherwise BT for example just rebrand. our old LES100 for example, a fibre backed leased line. now called something different (e: Ethernet Extension Service) but essentially the same thing but with a new box at each end. you wont get a dedicated point to point leased line on a normal "home" fibre either, another reason why some leased lines are more expensive because of the running of the cable...

fibre has been around for YEARS for business (the LES was in before i started here which was 7 years ago), i cant see leased lines going anywhere soon. especially like above when a "home" fibre pack doesnt have the service levels of a business leased line.
 
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Dale_d3100 said:
the date is on the bt site for our location, the exchange went live with fttc earlier this year.
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The date I had was on my BT site and my exchange was enabled mid last year I think. Took a year to get our cabinet upgraded.
 
Dale_d3100 said:
the date is on the bt site for our location, the exchange went live with fttc earlier this year.

We are impatient, downloading 32Gb backups is taking too long at the moment :(
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Just remember BT like to put down place holder dates, they change almost every quarter. Your exchange may be live but they can take ages to get the cabs done, and then they aren't guaranteed to actually put a cab where you are.

As an example, I'm connected to Bradwell Abbey in Milton Keynes, this was FTTP/FTTC enabled a couple of years ago. (We was used to trial FTTP on brown sites feeding old houses rather than new builds) My cab appeared back in February, connection went live by end of May. Take the BT date with a pinch of salt. Because you'll likely to be disappointed.

But when it does go live, it's fantastic :) sitting on 75/13 :)
 
srichards said:
If they can charge through the nose they will. BT still charge a fortune for ISDN.

All the leased/dedicated lines will disappear very quickly once fibre is rolled out.

With adsl you have the option to go bonded with multiple lines to increase speed. Much cheaper than £650 a month...

http://www.eclipse.net.uk/bonded-dsl
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Not necessarily. Many people use dedicate fibre lines. We do, although it is capped at the exchange to 50/50.
 
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