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116/616 format cameras?

This is presuming some of you actually own one :p

For those of you who don't know, they can be loaded with 120 film which will offer 5 panoramic style shots.

OK so they may well have pinholes in the bellows or sticky shutters but if you're mad like me and fancy a bit of fun then perhaps we could sort out a challenge.

If there's enough interest then I'll post the details of how to adapt the 120 film to work in the camera.
 
I have one which I made the spool adaptors for a while ago. I just need to make a new film gate then it can be used.


Steve.
 
Steve Smith said:
I have one which I made the spool adaptors for a while ago. I just need to make a new film gate then it can be used.


Steve.
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Cool :thumbs:

I didn't make a film gate for mine, might look into it though........I simply made the adaptation for the spool length, wapped the film in, masked a portion of the viewer to make it "easier" for composing (so as not to forget something gets cropped off!) and went out shooting.

If you, or anyone else, have any ideas for a theme ( perhaps bearing in mind the panoramic style result) then please feel free to post them.
 
I'm not sure I've got anything that fits the bill, will have a look and see what I can come up with.
 
Asha said:
I didn't make a film gate for mine
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Then it's likely that the film will be too far forward and the focus will be off. It depends on your existing film gate. If it is raised at the edges, you might have the problem. If the film just goes straight between two rollers then it will be o.k. as long as the film is not too loose.

I used the method in this link. Pages 21 and 22 explain the film gate:

http://kodak.3106.net/download/616panoramicconversion-RevBE.pdf


There is a simpler spool conversion method in this link but most cameras will mot vave space for it

http://mattsclassiccameras.com/shurshot_conv/


My camera was for 616 film so I have made one set of spool ends out of an old 620 spool and used the existing 616 take up spool which was in the camera.


Steve.
 
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Steve Smith said:
Then it's likely that the film will be too far forward and the focus will be off. It depends on your existing film gate. If it is raised at the edges, you might have the problem. If the film just goes straight between two rollers then it will be o.k. as long as the film is not too loose.

I used the method in this link. Pages 21 and 22 explain the film gate:

http://kodak.3106.net/download/616panoramicconversion-RevBE.pdf


There is a simpler spool conversion method in this link but most cameras will mot vave space for it

http://mattsclassiccameras.com/shurshot_conv/


My camera was for 616 film so I have made one set of spool ends out of an old 620 spool and used the existing 616 take up spool which was in the camera.


Steve.
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You may be correct about the focusing although the Kodak folder I used last time offered this as one result:

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Straight from scanner with no pp. Quite soft but for a camera of its age etc etc , it's an acceptable result ....for me anyway.


I suspect it depends what camera as to what modifications need to be done but I didn't go to any great lengths to make adpations for the film.....Simply inserted a plastic rawlplug into the end of the 120 spools and cut to length so they fitted comfortably where the original 616 spools would go.




RaglanSurf said:
Thanks Asha, I'm trying to reduce my camera collection not increase it.
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:lol:
 
Unforunately by Kodak Autographics are not in working condition otherwise I'd be up for this.
 
sparty said:
Unforunately by Kodak Autographics are not in working condition otherwise I'd be up for this.
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What's wrong with them?
Asha shoots with a right load of old tat and still manages to get images out of them :lol:
 
RaglanSurf said:
What's wrong with them?
Asha shoots with a right load of old tat and still manages to get images out of them :lol:
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Bellows fatigue. Pinholes (and worse) on every fold!

I was thinking though, I could try my No.1 Folding Pocket Kodak - model B which uses 105 film...
 
sparty said:
Bellows fatigue. Pinholes (and worse) on every fold!
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Mine leak light too from just about everywhere i think!! lol

Wrap a dark cloth around the bellows to keep the worst of the light out ...a little bit of entry can add to the effect/mystery of the shot anyway.

Means you will have to leave the bellows extended but you will only get 5 shots out of a roll of 120 film so if you choose a specific location/ subject then unlikely a need to fold the camera away.
 
The camera I was going to use has some shutter issues so I have put my Kodak No. 2A Autographic back together to use. This too has had a shutter change (the front of the old shutter has been put on the back of a different one). The new shutter was o.k. for the front element (because it hadn't changed) but the thread was wrong for the back. I have just fitted the rear element from the camera I was going to use and surprisingly, a piece of ground glass held on the back confirms that the focus is spot on at infinity. I was expecting to have to do some playing around with shims.

It also looks like quite a good image for a mis-matched set of front and rear cells. I was expecting some swirliness around the edges - actually, I was hoping for it! It could be that they are the same lenses in different sized housings as they were both from Kodak cameras of the same era.

And just to get it completely ready, I have cleaned the lens on the little rotating ground glass viewer which fixes to the front and for the first time, I can actually use it to compose with!

So is there a theme or a timescale associated wth this or should we just use them and post images here?


Steve
 
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Steve Smith said:
The camera I was going to use has some shutter issues so I have put my Kodak No. 2A Autographic back together to use. This too has had a shutter change (the front of the old shutter has been put on the back of a different one). The new shutter was o.k. for the front element (because it hadn't changed) but the thread was wrong for the back. I have just fitted the rear element from the camera I was going to use and surprisingly, a piece of ground glass held on the back confirms that the focus is spot on at infinity. I was expecting to have to do some playing around with shims.

It also looks like quite a good image for a mis-matched set of front and rear cells. I was expecting some swirliness around the edges - actually, I was hoping for it! It could be that they are the same lenses in different sized housings as they were both from Kodak cameras of the same era.

And just to get it completely ready, I have cleaned the lens on the little rotating ground glass viewer which fixes to the front and for the first time, I can actually use it to compose with!

So is there a theme or a timescale associated wth this or should we just use them and post images here?


Steve
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Wow you have been busy! lol

Tbh I was hoping there would be more people definetley interested other that just the two of us .

I'll get a challenge thread posted up within the next few days and stick a link on here.

Probably run it for about 3 weeks to give folk a chance of getting an entry but as with all these challenges, there's no strict ruling as such.

As for a theme...do you have any ideas or would you prefer to just leave it "open" and see what we can actually get out of these "old critters"?

I might add i haven't even dug a 116 camera out yet...........:gag: :D
 
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