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According to the BBC website, there are a large number of "undomesticated animals" being kept by private individuals in the UK, and these are just the licensed ones! Goodness knows what unlicensed people might have. Hey, let's be careful out there ...........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36356363
 
When I was a teen in Derby, there was a chap in Alvaston whose entire garden was a cage for his Clouded Leopards.
They kipped in the house with the humans and were free to roam the (huge) caged garden.....trees to climb, big pond to swim.
As kids we thought it was pretty cool.
Not so much now :lol:
 
The medium sized cats - Serval, Lynx, Ocelot etc - are lovely looking animals, but unfortunately some owners lose patience with them and release them into the wild, where they can cause havoc to livestock and other small animals.
I have seen photos of a small deer carcass which was found up a tree.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/l...ry-after-dead-roe-5353126#6Zj5U9T2vJyMhx52.97

“It had been viciously attacked – there were quite clear puncture marks in its neck and its head had been totally twisted around the wrong way – it was awful to see.

“It looked as though a dog had maybe gotten to it but I just wonder why the body was left like that. It was a really shocking sight.


Probably not a dog then, and certainly not a human.
 
When I was a teen in Derby, there was a chap in Alvaston whose entire garden was a cage for his Clouded Leopards.
They kipped in the house with the humans and were free to roam the (huge) caged garden.....trees to climb, big pond to swim.
As kids we thought it was pretty cool.
Not so much now :LOL:


When I lived in Maidstone back in the eighties, I used to play cricket at the Godlands (Kent Fire HQ near Tovil), and adjoining the cricket pitch was a large garden, with a high fence and also a cage, which held a rather large, rather tatty old lion.
We never used to tell the opposition about it, we just used to wait for the lion to start roaring and grumbling when it got hungry.
 
The medium sized cats - Serval, Lynx, Ocelot etc - are lovely looking animals, but unfortunately some owners lose patience with them and release them into the wild, where they can cause havoc to livestock and other small animals.
I have seen photos of a small deer carcass which was found up a tree.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/l...ry-after-dead-roe-5353126#6Zj5U9T2vJyMhx52.97

“It had been viciously attacked – there were quite clear puncture marks in its neck and its head had been totally twisted around the wrong way – it was awful to see.

“It looked as though a dog had maybe gotten to it but I just wonder why the body was left like that. It was a really shocking sight.


Probably not a dog then, and certainly not a human.
I had a 'marmalade' tabby 25 years ago who was deadly around dogs (particularly) but partial to hares and rabbits. He weighed in around 38 pounds and kept the 'hood clear of pretty much everything non-human.

My house backed onto Epping Forest and he had a baby deer he brought back to the house one year. Great personality but a killer through and through. If he thought he could take it, he would.

His 'amber' eyes disturbed my mother in law. She rarely came to stay.... I loved that cat. 23 years old when he passed.......

It must be in the DNA of all cats, even the well fed 'domesticated', just seem to want to kill something.
 
38lb is a BIIIIIG domestic cat! Ours is around 9lb and we keep getting told she could lose a few oz.
 
Why on earth would a pet shop have one of these anyway? Presumably to sell it on to Joe Public for whatever reason, but I just can't see it I'm afraid. :thinking:

It's not for you then.
I know someone with many venomous spiders and scorpions.
He has all the necessary permits.
They're his passion.
I don't get it, but then I don't personally see what folks see in keeping birds.
Doesn't make it wrong that they do.
 
OK - will punk do?
"Did he use 6ozs of John Innes or only five?" Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But being this is a Cumbrian Pot Leek, the largest leek variety in the world and would win first prize at the world leek and onion championship at Ashington, you've gotta ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?
 
"Did he use 6ozs of John Innes or only five?" Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But being this is a Cumbrian Pot Leek, the largest leek variety in the world and would win first prize at the world leek and onion championship at Ashington, you've gotta ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?

Made my day :)
 
Why on earth would a pet shop have one of these anyway? Presumably to sell it on to Joe Public for whatever reason, but I just can't see it I'm afraid. :thinking:

It is beyond my comprehension why they would.
 
It's not for you then.
I know someone with many venomous spiders and scorpions.
He has all the necessary permits.
They're his passion.
I don't get it, but then I don't personally see what folks see in keeping birds.
Doesn't make it wrong that they do.

It's a bit like that guy who was killed by his Staffordshire/pitbull cross yesterday. They obviously get something out of the danger involved, and that's what I don't get. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-36356634
 
It's a bit like that guy who was killed by his Staffordshire/pitbull cross yesterday. They obviously get something out of the danger involved, and that's what I don't get. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-36356634

Not really. There's a bit of a difference I'd say, keeping a dog which is of partially banned breed and clearly having no idea how to keep ANY kind of dog, that incident was an accident waiting to happen.
I don't believe my collector friend "get's off" on any dangerous aspect. His non dangerous specimens certainly outnumber the venomous ones.
Even if that were the case, no different to those who participate in dangerous sports / hobbies, of which there are many.
Thrill...adrenaline release...so long as the danger is only to themselves, then it's each to their own as far as I'm concerned.
 
RSPCA talking rubbish as usual.

In order to get a licence to keep a DWA you have to have the enclosure for it inspected, or you certainly used to. Meaning you have to do all of the research and build an adequate enclosure and demonstrate your knowledge on said DWA before applying for your licence. You can't just pop into a pet shop and come home with a caiman.
 
RSPCA talking rubbish as usual.
You do astound me :D

Wolves in Bedfordshire ( from the article) There is the Anglian Wolf Society,
open to the public on limited days, I'm not quite sure what they are trying to do TBH, they claim "conservation" but while they are imprinting them, its hardly conservation.
Having spoken to a few that work there, the miond boggles as to what they are trying to achieve save raise funds to buy more wolves to breed and imprint to raise more money to buy .... well you get the idea :rolleyes:

I used to own 2x 16 foot Indian ( Burmese) pythons that I raised from hatchings, They'd give you quite a nasty hug should they be so inclined.
No licence required, I've had a few other "bits and pieces" in the past, when you could still import various exotics, well before there was the need for DWA licence(s), CITES or anything else.
Consider this, you breed them for a few generations, and have kept them for years, and no one knows you have them.
Just don't take the Cheetah down Tesco's ( I know it says no dogs, but it doesn't say no cats ;) )
 
You do astound me :D

Wolves in Bedfordshire ( from the article) There is the Anglian Wolf Society,
open to the public on limited days, I'm not quite sure what they are trying to do TBH, they claim "conservation" but while they are imprinting them, its hardly conservation.
Having spoken to a few that work there, the miond boggles as to what they are trying to achieve save raise funds to buy more wolves to breed and imprint to raise more money to buy .... well you get the idea :rolleyes:

I used to own 2x 16 foot Indian ( Burmese) pythons that I raised from hatchings, They'd give you quite a nasty hug should they be so inclined.
No licence required, I've had a few other "bits and pieces" in the past, when you could still import various exotics, well before there was the need for DWA licence(s), CITES or anything else.
Consider this, you breed them for a few generations, and have kept them for years, and no one knows you have them.
Just don't take the Cheetah down Tesco's ( I know it says no dogs, but it doesn't say no cats ;) )

Yeah I've never understood why constrictors aren't DWA tbh.

My RSPCA comment was just around this statement:

"An RSPCA spokeswoman said the charity was "deeply concerned" about the figures.

"People may buy them with little idea of how difficult they can be to keep and the animals are sometimes neglected when the novelty wears off and the commitment hits home."

They make it sound like you can just buy one on a whim. There'll be a minority keeping them illegally, but I doubt there's many people breeding and selling venomous snakes without a licence.

I've just got a greedy bearded dragon and a very grumpy parrot.
 
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I've just got a greedy bearded dragon and a very grumpy parrot.
I slowly cleared my stuff out when the kids came along, ( the Mrs wanted the bedrooms, damned unreasonable I thought! )
That Salvator monitor was also a very grumpy [PLEASE DON'T TRY TO BYPASS THE SWEAR FILTER]! never mind the teeth that tail was a bit of a lethal weapon!

All I have now are two working hawks, a male Harris and a female Gyr x saker.
My lad, has a ( approx 8.5 feet) Boa.
 
I slowly cleared my stuff out when the kids came along, ( the Mrs wanted the bedrooms, damned unreasonable I thought! )
That Salvator monitor was also a very grumpy b*****d! never mind the teeth that tail was a bit of a lethal weapon!

All I have now are two working hawks, a male Harris and a female Gyr x saker.
My lad, has a ( approx 8.5 feet) Boa.

Saw two massive varanus salvator mating in a lake in Sri Lanka lol not sure I'd want one as a "pet"!
 
Saw two massive varanus salvator mating in a lake in Sri Lanka lol not sure I'd want one as a "pet"!
It was a mere pup when I got it, but @ a little over 4 feet and it went off to a private collector / breeder who had a female and *needed* a male.

That just reminded me, years ago, I got a phone call from the RSPCA ( I used to do a lot of their BoP rescues)
Someone had seen an alligator sitting on my roof, the little sod had managed to "escape" squeeze out the very slightly open window,
and was happily sun bathing on top of the Dormer window :D


i wonder how many of these licences fall under residential because some of the smaller conservation groups are based in the grounds of a residential property?
Quite a few I would imagine.
 
i wonder how many of these licences fall under residential because some of the smaller conservation groups are based in the grounds of a residential property?

So are some of the larger zoos and wildlife parks. (Howletts, Longleat, Woburn......)
 
38lb is a BIIIIIG domestic cat! Ours is around 9lb and we keep getting told she could lose a few oz.
We had his brother too. He eas around the 14 pound weight (also a marmalade). I think he just acted the part compared to the big fellow. His 'freak' attributes were 7 and 6 claws on the front paws and 6 and 5 toes on the rear. Freaky trail in the snow.

Note to self..... resccuing cats through the Sellafield RSPCA centre carries special responsibilities......
 
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So are some of the larger zoos and wildlife parks. (Howletts, Longleat, Woburn......)

Precisely, which leaves only a few muppets and maniacs with a few baby aligator hatchlings (later to be cooked in a soup perhaps), a few nasty snakes and spiders. I'm actually more concerned about pitbulls.
 
Precisely, which leaves only a few muppets and maniacs with a few baby aligator hatchlings (later to be cooked in a soup perhaps), a few nasty snakes and spiders. I'm actually more concerned about pitbulls.

Why?
 
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