What yongnuo flash/triggers should i buy?

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Hi,

I'm looking at buying a new flash along with some new triggers but there are quite a few different models to choose from.

I currently have a Canon 580 EX II and a Canon EX 430 II with a 5d Mark II which i am triggering with Yongnuo RF602 triggers.

I want to add another flash (maybe two) and I would like to be able to change the power from the camera with a controller as sometimes its hassle when the flashes are high up on a stand.

At the moment I am looking at the Yongnuo YN-622C triggers and controller or the Yongnuo YN-E3-RT Controller. Does anybody have any experience or opinions on these?

My main problem is what flash to buy, there are so many different models from yongnuo that its very confusing.
Is there one in particular that anybody can recommend?

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
 
For triggers go with the yn622c and yn622c-tx. I order to control flash setting with these trigger you need a TTL flash. From the yn range you can try the yn565ex or yn568 for Canon.
 
sep9001 said:
For triggers go with the yn622c and yn622c-tx. I order to control flash setting with these trigger you need a TTL flash. From the yn range you can try the yn565ex or yn568 for Canon.
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I've just got got a set of these and they do the job really well. They can (apparently) also trigger manual flashes, but you need TTL to be able to control the power from the transmitter
 
I have the YN 622c transceivers and the YN 622c TX. I also have a Yongnuo 568EXII along with a Canon 430EXII, Canon 580EXII and Canon 580EX. The Canon 580EX will trigger but you have to manually change the settings on the unit. Otherwise it all works really well together. I have used both manual and TTL modes and the results are very good and so easy to control.

The YN 568EXII is a good substitute for the Canon 580EXII at a fraction of the price and can be fully controlled by the 622c TX.
 
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I'll take a look at the YN 568EXII. It seems like the 622c TX is the trigger/controller to go for over the ST-E3 then.

Thanks for the advice guys it is greatly appreciated!
 
I bought my YN568EXII, 622C-TX and 622C trancievers from Amazon. I made sure they were all from the same supplier and fulfilled by Amazon. This ensures that if they do become faulty then I just have to deal with Amazon and won't have to send anything back to China.
 
Kris said:
Wait for the launch of the yn685 flash in a few weeks.

It has in built 622 receiver, so no need to buy a 622 receiver for it and fewer batteries to administer.

http://www.hkyongnuo.com/e-detaily.php?ID=366
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Looks good doesn't it :) News of that prompted me to finally stop dithering and go 622 and 622Tx, and they work just fine with my older 580EX guns :thumbs:

But am I right in thinking that it's a slave-only, with no mastering ability? I often like to have one flash on-camera, for bouncing and mastering, but that doesn't seem to be possible.
 
Reports are conflicting, but I think the more reliable say receiver only.

Which is bloody baffling, but it wouldn't be the first time yongnuo have left me scratching my head.

Personally, I always run a dedicated transmitter 622tx and a 580exii flash on a side bracket (a custom bracket mini-rc) for extremely quick on camera/off camera light, so this doesn't affect me much.

Be very nice to lower the weight by getting rid of the superfluous 622c transceiver though

Assuming they work well of course. You wouldn't believe the problems I've had with the yn600 system. Lumps on my head and holes in my walls!
 
Kris said:
Reports are conflicting, but I think the more reliable say receiver only.

Which is bloody baffling, but it wouldn't be the first time yongnuo have left me scratching my head.

Personally, I always run a dedicated transmitter 622tx and a 580exii flash on a side bracket (a custom bracket mini-rc) for extremely quick on camera/off camera light, so this doesn't affect me much.

Be very nice to lower the weight by getting rid of the superfluous 622c transceiver though

Assuming they work well of course. You wouldn't believe the problems I've had with the yn600 system. Lumps on my head and holes in my walls!
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Yes, a bracket is a good workaround, but the whole point of these guns for me would be to get rid of all the clutter.

I can kinda see why YN would put out a slave-only gun, appealing to the thousands of existing 622 users and at a cheaper price. Also, the potential market for a slave gun is theoretically larger, but there must surely be a master/slave version following on soon.

I didn't know about your YN600 problems, though YN have a habit of using early adopters for beta-testing. On these new 685 guns, I would assume they're using YN's existing 622 technology that seems to be well debugged now.
 
Let's hope so. It had better be competitively priced if master function is missing.

Yn really stretched my patience and good will after three yn600exrt and two yne3rt all failed within 6 weeks, and every one with totally different problems. Yet six 622c and two 622tx have been impeccable.

I'm on first name terms with their eBay customer services, believe me, but I don't think I'm on their Christmas card list.
 
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Kris said:
Let's hope so. It had better be competitively priced if master function is missing.

Yn really stretched my patience and good will after three yn600exrt and two yne3rt all failed within 6 weeks, and every one with totally different problems. Yet six 622c and two 622tx have been impeccable.

I'm on first name terms with their eBay customer services, believe me, but I don't think I'm on their Christmas card list.
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Jeez! I wonder if that's something to do with the 600RT system being reverse-engineered Canon tech (always a dangerous game, it seems) whereas the 622 is all YN?

While I'm on, could I ask if you (or anyone else) have used the 622Tx super-sync offset adjustment feature? I've been fiddling with it and was pretty sure it wasn't working at all, though on some very careful tests I can just see that the histogram shifts very very slightly. But the visual effect, on a few different flash heads, is quite invisible. Any ideas?
 
I just checked with a 50D at 1/500th, HSS, and 550EX at M 1/1.. At C.Fn 01 SS 0.0, almost no shadow was visible. At SS 2.0, the shadow covered the lower half of the frame. The system is not intended for short-burst hot-shoe flashes, of course.

Earlier on in this thread, it was suggested that M power levels could not be controlled on e.g 580EX using the C-TX. It can, using C.Fn 05. It's for Class 2 flashes that support E-TTL but do not support remote Manual. The YN622C-TX uses the E-TTL codes to set a manual power level if C.Fn 05 is ON.

As far as I can determine, the YN685EX is an on-camera stand-alone or a remote slave We should know definitively soon... My supplier indicated a delay from 28 July to `15 August, then later "a production capacity problem". :rolleyes:

I am guessing that a firmware upgrade for the C-TX will be released at the same time. Then there's the YN622C MkII complete with USB port that has been announced. There have been numerous circuit board versions and firmware versions of the YN622C, and it would be good to have the latest platform.
 
SeedyBee said:
I just checked with a 50D at 1/500th, HSS, and 550EX at M 1/1.. At C.Fn 01 SS 0.0, almost no shadow was visible. At SS 2.0, the shadow covered the lower half of the frame. The system is not intended for short-burst hot-shoe flashes, of course.

Earlier on in this thread, it was suggested that M power levels could not be controlled on e.g 580EX using the C-TX. It can, using C.Fn 05. It's for Class 2 flashes that support E-TTL but do not support remote Manual. The YN622C-TX uses the E-TTL codes to set a manual power level if C.Fn 05 is ON.

As far as I can determine, the YN685EX is an on-camera stand-alone or a remote slave We should know definitively soon... My supplier indicated a delay from 28 July to `15 August, then later "a production capacity problem". :rolleyes:

I am guessing that a firmware upgrade for the C-TX will be released at the same time. Then there's the YN622C MkII complete with USB port that has been announced. There have been numerous circuit board versions and firmware versions of the YN622C, and it would be good to have the latest platform.
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Thanks Clive. That's the kind of change I was expecting to see. I'll give it another go. And CFn 5 works a treat.

For any other Yongnuo users reading this, Clive 'SeedyBee' is author of The Other YN622 User Guide. It's basically the 622 bible that tells you all the things you need to know that are not in the YN handbook - and that's quite a lot! He keeps it updated and the latest version is v4.12. Here http://www.westonphoto.plus.com/tutorials/TOYUG_v4-12.pdf
 
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Kris said:
Reports are conflicting, but I think the more reliable say receiver only.

Which is bloody baffling, but it wouldn't be the first time yongnuo have left me scratching my head.

Personally, I always run a dedicated transmitter 622tx and a 580exii flash on a side bracket (a custom bracket mini-rc) for extremely quick on camera/off camera light, so this doesn't affect me much.

Be very nice to lower the weight by getting rid of the superfluous 622c transceiver though

Assuming they work well of course. You wouldn't believe the problems I've had with the yn600 system. Lumps on my head and holes in my walls!
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I think we have to remember that Yongnuo (and all the others) are a mixture of electronic engineers and sales people - one thing that they definately are not, is photographers, and even if they employ photographers they certainly don't appear to take much notice of any feedback that they get from them.

They make what are, essentially, disposable items with very good value to offset the short life expectancy and design bugs, so basically you pays your money and you takes your choice...
As an example, I have one of their WR-126/N1 wireless remotes for Nikon. It was a cheap as chips and does the job perfectly, except that interference from it means that it can't be used with radio triggers, so I have a pretty high tech setup involving multiple flash heads, an expensive camera and an old fashioned sych cable connecting the camera to one of the flash heads:)
 
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