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It all depends what kind of 'out theere' you want, Everything from a free wordpress.com site, wix etc, (I'd never recommend clickpic) through hosting with a wordpess theme up to a complete bespoke site.
A website is a more complicated decision than 'what camera' with more choices and more reasons why one is more suitable than another.
A website is a more complicated decision than 'what camera' with more choices and more reasons why one is more suitable than another.
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I'll tell ya how it is - I ain't got a clue about website building, the terminology that goes with it and SEO etc. As for social networking well I can't be bothered with that. Wordpress intrigues me but I don't know how to become a wordpresser! I'd like a website where I've got a chance of being seen and not to be sitting in a gloomy corner of the intraweb.
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Wordpress is not that difficult to get your hear around, but if you don't want to do much thinking, then Photium is pretty good for what it is, at least it will get you out there
Every site sits in a gloomy corner of the intraweb.
UNLESS
You make your site appealing
You make your site worth visiting again and again (new contact regularly)
Your site promotes discussion (you need a blog with your opinion on photography, showing your knowledge)
Your site needs lots of links to it to get it up google (Social Networking, being seen, participating in stuff).
If you don't want to do that, accept it will be in a gloomy corner like most sites on here.
Then decide if you want a site or if Flickr will do.
UNLESS
You make your site appealing
You make your site worth visiting again and again (new contact regularly)
Your site promotes discussion (you need a blog with your opinion on photography, showing your knowledge)
Your site needs lots of links to it to get it up google (Social Networking, being seen, participating in stuff).
If you don't want to do that, accept it will be in a gloomy corner like most sites on here.
Then decide if you want a site or if Flickr will do.
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#1 Sleek and simple with text to a minimum and let the pics do the talking.
#2 Buy a house in the Highlands and then new content will be added on a
daily basis (in my dreams).
#3 Who wants to listen to my random musings although I suppose a blog in general ain't out of the question.
#4 Being an unsociable barsteward at the best of times social networking ain't on the top of my agenda.
treeman - this installing workpress malarky is where I get put off.
You will often find that hosting companies use something like softaculus or similar which is a 1 click install for Wordpress or if you talk to companies like TSO Host nicely, they might install Wordpress for you.
Images aren't picked up by robots, text is. Remember to add alt tags to each image.
The tricky part with the blog is to not just jump on a bandwagon and give your opinion just like everyone else. Keep a photography diary, share simple tips, simple bits of equipment, something unique but interesting.
If you aren't going to promote your site and be sociable, how will anyone see your content and share it.
Its not easy and unless you are all in, expect it to be just for you and and friends.
Images aren't picked up by robots, text is. Remember to add alt tags to each image.
The tricky part with the blog is to not just jump on a bandwagon and give your opinion just like everyone else. Keep a photography diary, share simple tips, simple bits of equipment, something unique but interesting.
If you aren't going to promote your site and be sociable, how will anyone see your content and share it.
Its not easy and unless you are all in, expect it to be just for you and and friends.
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Sorry but you sound like one of those 'new members' who 'want one of those fancy cameras so I can take great professional pictures'.
If it's worth having it requires a bit of work
#1 I don't want to have to think too much, just point and click
#2 a mode for taking great landscape pictures
#3 Great portraits, but I'm not really a people person - so the camera has to do the work for me.
#4 I don't really want to have to put too much effort in, it's not really my style.
I don't want to sound harsh, but I did ask why you wanted a website - it appears you don't know what ypou want it to do, and you don't really want to do it anyway. You just want to 'have' one.
I'd have a proper think about what you hope to get from having a website, and what that is worth to you. From there you can make a plan and you'll get loads of help. But atm there's no aim, no plan, no point.
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Thanks for that.
Sorry but you sound like one of those 'new members' who 'want one of those fancy cameras so I can take great professional pictures'.
If it's worth having it requires a bit of work
#1 I don't want to have to think too much, just point and click
#2 a mode for taking great landscape pictures
#3 Great portraits, but I'm not really a people person - so the camera has to do the work for me.
#4 I don't really want to have to put too much effort in, it's not really my style.
I don't want to sound harsh, but I did ask why you wanted a website - it appears you don't know what ypou want it to do, and you don't really want to do it anyway. You just want to 'have' one.
I'd have a proper think about what you hope to get from having a website, and what that is worth to you. From there you can make a plan and you'll get loads of help. But atm there's no aim, no plan, no point.
Jeez Phil, go straight for the jugular why don't ya! I'm a bit of a technophobe. I don't even own a mobile phone. Give me a breath of fresh air out in the boondocks and I'll be happy all day. I believe that my photos are worthy of a wider audience hence why I'm asking the initial question.
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One of the well known sharing sites then. Flikr perhaps?
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Honest I'm trying to be helpful - what precisely do you mean by 'worthy of a wider audience'?
That's what I'm trying to get at. Different solutions for different jobs 
.Flickr will give you an audience
, with very little effort. Selling to stock might give you an audience and an income. A wordpress blog might be enough for you to have a 'presence'. But if you really want something that's going to 'work' for you, it'll take effort and learning, or paying someone else for the effort.
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arad85 - thanks for the recommendation but I'm thinking more in the lines of having a personal portfolio site.
Phil, that's kind of what I'm asking - Is it worth paying someone to do the job right instead of faffing about with do-it-yourself sites.
Phil, that's kind of what I'm asking - Is it worth paying someone to do the job right instead of faffing about with do-it-yourself sites.
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What I'm asking is....
What do you really need it to do, and what's that worth to you?
As a guide, most small to medium pro's use template sites and look after them themselves (budget - £30-£200 pa)
Your 'big name' photographers buy custom sites (budget >£300 pa).
If you're not planning on making any money out of it, you'd be stupid to spend money on it, unless you really can afford to spend hundreds of pounds on a vanity project.
If you are planning on making money out of it, how? what will you need to enable that? e-commerce? straightforward SEO? Will you want to be paying ongoing update costs or do you want to learn enough to take control yourself, or do you just need a simple to use content management system?
Like I said (more than twice now
) It all depends what you want it use it forAnd if you say once more 'I just want people to see my stuff...
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What I'm asking is....
What do you really need it to do, and what's that worth to you?
As a guide, most small to medium pro's use template sites and look after them themselves (budget - £30-£200 pa)
Your 'big name' photographers buy custom sites (budget >£300 pa).
If you're not planning on making any money out of it, you'd be stupid to spend money on it, unless you really can afford to spend hundreds of pounds on a vanity project.
If you are planning on making money out of it, how? what will you need to enable that? e-commerce? straightforward SEO? Will you want to be paying ongoing update costs or do you want to learn enough to take control yourself, or do you just need a simple to use content management system?
Like I said (more than twice now
And if you say once more 'I just want people to see my stuff...
Can I say that I want my stuff to find people..? Actually nevermind... I think I'll take down the mesh blinds and put some framed pics in the windies and then at least the neighbours will get to see them.
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I can't work out whether you're trying to wind me up or you genuinely have no idea what you're asking. You're dismissing the questions as if they're irrelevant? But they're designed to make you think through your options, well not move to a solution till you can answer them.
What if we start with:
Who will want to find your photos?
Why will they want to see them?
You seem convinced that people need to see them, but why would they? If you can't answer that, there really is no point in any website.
What if we start with:
Who will want to find your photos?
Why will they want to see them?
You seem convinced that people need to see them, but why would they? If you can't answer that, there really is no point in any website.
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intranet people
cause them be well good
cause without my photos their lives/walls are empty.
Right enough but this has gone on way too long. All I wanted to know was is it worth paying a web designer to build a website or are the others mentioned sufficient given that I have no knowledge of SEO etc. :shrug:
cause them be well good
cause without my photos their lives/walls are empty.
Right enough but this has gone on way too long. All I wanted to know was is it worth paying a web designer to build a website or are the others mentioned sufficient given that I have no knowledge of SEO etc. :shrug:
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I'm sorry I'm unable to help. Good luck.
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The way I always believed, especially with the gazillion toggers, pro & amateur/hobbiests out there that if you want to be seen you seriously have to work at it and put the effort in, nothing jumps out and grabs you by the b.....:grin: