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Hi there. I hope I am posting in the right forum here.

I am looking for a photographer who is maybe building a portfolio and would like to offer their services for free at our wedding next year. We are getting married at a hotel in Newquay, Cornwall in June 2010.

If you are interested please reply. Thank you!:)
 
you might struggle to find anyone who will do a days work for nothing !
 
try camborne college...they have students in photography
 
I've posted this on another thread and I'll post it here too.....


While I'm sure you have a tight budget and I can really appreciate that (We got married on a very tight budget too).

Please have a think about what you're asking. You're asking someone to come and give their services for free. There's a difference between saying "We can't pay alot" or "We can only pay a small amount, but you will be well fed, looked after and we will sign a form allowing you to use the shots for your own promotional work".

Theres a difference between saying that, and just "Who will work for me for free"
Let me guess, you wont be asking the caterer to work for free? Or maybe popping into the wedding shop, see if they'll give you a free dress?

I understand your budgetary constraints, but to out and out expect someone to do it for free is quite rude IMO.

Try and at least offer a scenario where you can come to an agreement that benefits you both. By that I mean offer something to the photographer that they will find useful.
"The chance to photograph me" is not it. ;)

Welcome to the forums BTW.
 
I really can't see the problem with people asking .... the benefit to the couple os that they get thier wedding shot for free or at low cost, the benefit to the 'tog is that s/he gets a wedding to use as portfolio fodder. If this lass were local to me I would be contacting her to see if we could strike a mutually beneficial deal.

Having seen the work that some of the "pro" 'tog's locally to me have used as portfoloi shots, I couldn't do worse unless I turned up drunk.

Perhaps it may be advantageous to have a "tog wanted" section for this type of post so that the nay-sayers don't have to be offended by looking at it. I'm sure that there are many out there who are oin a shoestring for either product, promotional, wedding ..... whatever type of photography and that there are also many amateurs who would welcome the chance of havinfg a craic at it on the understanding that they are amateurs and the results may not be up to a pro standard.
 
Marcel said:
I've posted this on another thread and I'll post it here too.....


While I'm sure you have a tight budget and I can really appreciate that (We got married on a very tight budget too).

Please have a think about what you're asking. You're asking someone to come and give their services for free. There's a difference between saying "We can't pay alot" or "We can only pay a small amount, but you will be well fed, looked after and we will sign a form allowing you to use the shots for your own promotional work".

Theres a difference between saying that, and just "Who will work for me for free"
Let me guess, you wont be asking the caterer to work for free? Or maybe popping into the wedding shop, see if they'll give you a free dress?

I understand your budgetary constraints, but to out and out expect someone to do it for free is quite rude IMO.

Try and at least offer a scenario where you can come to an agreement that benefits you both. By that I mean offer something to the photographer that they will find useful.
"The chance to photograph me" is not it. ;)

Welcome to the forums BTW.
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I agree with Marcel - particularly the bit in bold!

On a serious note I'm wondering if TP is being bandied about on wedding forums as the place to get a free tog - I hope the place doesn't get inundated with "I'm getting married - anyone want to work for free" threads :(

Maybe it would be an idea to set up a thread for togs who would be willing to come to some arrangement for the experience - where they can set out their expectations re expenses / use of shots for portfolia etc? Just an idea - then any prospective brides could be re-directed towards said thread.
 
BTw, if there is no consideration then there is no contract, and if the photos turns out to be complete crap, hell, if he turned up, and then went home and burnt all the cards, you can do nothing about it !
 
I think I'm free in June 2010 and have a camera AND an emergency back up. No external flash though...is the venue well lit? Will you provide food?


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Daysleeper40 said:
Maybe it would be an idea to set up a thread for togs who would be willing to come to some arrangement for the experience - where they can set out their expectations re expenses / use of shots for portfolia etc? Just an idea - then any prospective brides could be re-directed towards said thread.
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That could be an idea. I would love the opportunity to shoot at a wedding but know that people would not be likely to pay me a huge amount (if anything) as I only have shot at a couple of weddings in the past. However I could be prepared to shoot for someone at a low cost depending on the location of the event if it means I can build up my portfolio.

My first thought was that the likelihood was that somebody has posted the forum details on a wedding board though.
 
goodnight guys..
 
Lomond Lad said:
I think I'm free in June 2010 and have a camera AND an emergency back up. No external flash though...is the venue well lit? Will you provide food?


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I second Marcel, not even the offer of covering petrol/lens hire/food costs?

Very rude indeed :(
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a photographer getting experience and a couple getting a photographer on the cheap. That would be a win win situation and something I would love it if TalkPhotography could help engage a partnership like that.

But I really don't agree with the whole 'Work for free just to get experience' ethos.
I noticed it when working for the BBC, they had very very limited placements for work experience, and while the beeb is a major broadcaster and good experience, the whole ethos of working for free and being thankful for it doesn't sit right with me.

That's why I suggest that there be a better agreement in place than 'Photograph the wedding for free, you'll get some experience'.
 
Are you getting the hotel for free? what about the dress, did you get that for nothing as well? Are you getting the flowers from a church yard? No my guess is your paying for those. So why ask for a free wedding photographer.
I'd like my car serviced for free, I'd love somebody to pay my morgage for me, thing is if I work for nothing I cant pay for things either, isn't life a bitch.
 
I really cant see the problem with the OP asking this question.

Some photographers on here may be willing to do it (as I have recently done), and may be glad of the experience.

Posting disparaging remarks against the OP doesnt help anyone.
 
So the OP says can someone do it free. OP is crucified and told to pay person.

OP decides to pay expenses and small sum.

Two weeks later 'tog comes on here says 'doing first wedding for couple on a budget' they can only pay expenses and small fee. 'Tog is crucifed and told does not have backup gear, insurance, experience he should do it for free.

'Tog offers to do it for free. and the circle continues....

To the OP hope have a good wedding.
 
I cant understand why people get upset when they see these requests.. This is probably the first time they have had to ask and theres very little chance that they explained themselves properly.. maybe they are offering to look after you on the day.. maybe its not just do the work and we might say thank you...

Why not open up a dialog with these people and see whats what instead of just slagging the whole idea off.

there used to be a saying "you can't get shot for asking" .. why doesn't that apply here..
 
foggy4ever said:
It helps the OP understand a broad view of TP members feelings on the topic of I WAN'T SOMETHING FOR FREE
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I prefer to think of it like this - the OP may be willing to allow an unproven, inexperienced photographer the chance to use their wedding as a training excercise - in return for a copy of any images taken.

Seeing as there are 2 day wedding photography courses that can cost upward of £150-£200, i'd say its actually quite a bargain. Nothing like real world experience IMO.
 
KIPAX said:
I cant understand why people get upset when they see these requests.. This is probably the first time they have had to ask and theres very little chance that they explained themselves properly.. maybe they are offering to look after you on the day.. maybe its not just do the work and we might say thank you...

Why not open up a dialog with these people and see whats what instead of just slagging the whole idea off.

there used to be a saying "you can't get shot for asking" .. why doesn't that apply here..
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This thing is very true.
 
Because I consider it incredibly rude to join a forum and use your first post to try and blag something for free.

Would you walk into a shop and start asking for anything you wanted for free ... Or would you expect the shop owner to be suspicious.
 
hypnotic said:
Because I consider it incredibly rude to join a forum and use your first post to try and blag something for free..
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eeerm blag? they explained themselves and i dont see them trying to con anyone.. as for first post.. they can hardly join in talk photography for a few weeks then ask if there not photographers themselves..

its a simple request.. its nothing like going into a shop. nothing at all..
 
hypnotic said:
Because I consider it incredibly rude to join a forum and use your first post to try and blag something for free.

Would you walk into a shop and start asking for anything you wanted for free ... Or would you expect the shop owner to be suspicious.
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The OP isnt trying to blag anything - they asked a simple question as to whether there are photographers that would be willing to photograph a wedding for free.

The answer is categorically yes - there are photographers who would be willing to do this and so the OP's question is a valid one. Whether you like the question being asked is a whole other discussion.
 
Moonhawk said:
The OP isnt trying to blag anything - they asked a simple question as to whether there are photographers that would be willing to photograph a wedding for free.

The answer is categorically yes - there are photographers who would be willing to do this and so the OP's question is a valid one. Whether you like the question being asked is a whole other discussion.
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and hence why thread has continued...
 
This should be in the tog wanted section......
 
I agree with Moonhawk and i am quite surprised by the replies in this thread.
There are lots of photographers willing to do weddings for free when starting out to build up portfolios.
Edinburghgary did one or two recently for exactly the same reason and got alot of praise for it (sorry Gary to drag your name into it but you're a popular figure on this forum).
Double standards or what :thinking:
 
i think youll find noone has said don't do it, and the thread has been left open by the mods. The problem is more about the way they are approaching it.
 
Mangelwurzel said:
Edinburghgary did one or two recently for exactly the same reason and got alot of praise for it (sorry Gary to drag your name into it but you're a popular figure on this forum).
Double standards or what :thinking:
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He has already posted in the other wedding thread


EdinburghGary said:
For the record I have shot a free wedding for portfolio reasons. Never again ;)

Gary.
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fletch5 said:
The problem is more about the way they are approaching it.
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They have approached it by offering to shoot the wedding for free so the photographer can use the photos in their portfolio. How is this different to any TFP offer you take on anywhere else like purestorm/modelmayhem etc ? :shrug:
 
foggy4ever said:
He has already posted in the other wedding thread
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Yes, but at the time he took it, it was beneficial to him and he was happy for the arrangement. From the thread he posted i'm sure he got alot of usable portfolio photos.
 
I don't have a problem with it, and I hope that both OP's find a suitable photographer, and that both photographers gain good experience from the weddings, I truly do.

This has been left open and we're looking at a way within the staff area, to facilitate this sort of request via the forum. At the end of the day we're a photographers forum and we want to be pro active in helping photographers in whatever avenue they choose.

I've no problem with anyone asking for anything for free. But it seems to be a growing trend to expect that someone will do it for free and be thankful for the opportunity. It never seems to be looked upon as a partnership, always a 'I can't pay, sorry! But hey, you get some experience, right?'
 
I don't have any problem with the concept, or the way in which it was pitched by the OP :shrug:
 
i'll do it but it wont be totally free, very very cheap but not free i am afraid
 
I think these type of threads are an indication on the state of society in general ...... severe lack of community spirit !!!!! ....... IMHO. This holds true on both sides of the argument the original request of getting something FOC without any thought of "how could I help someone who is willing to help me" and then the other side "someone who is maybe worse off than me needs a favour but whats in it for me?" I appreciate that some have/will come forward to help out the OP and so there is still some hope but I fear ..... NOT MUCH? even the FOC help and assistance on this forum is begining to become limited with only a few cliques getting more than a few responses many of which are just lame "nice set", "good pics" etc ....... is the next step on TP to offer some form of payment for any help and assistance? Shame really?

To the OP have a great day hope you find someone to do your special day justice but if not just ask your guests to snap away with P&S/Mobile phones etc and pass on any photos ..... these will mean a lot more to you.
 
Hammerhead64 said:
I think these type of threads are an indication on the state of society in general ...... severe lack of community spirit !!!!! ....... IMHO. This holds true on both sides of the argument the original request of getting something FOC without any thought of "how could I help someone who is willing to help me" and then the other side "someone who is maybe worse off than me needs a favour but whats in it for me?" I appreciate that some have/will come forward to help out the OP and so there is still some hope but I fear ..... NOT MUCH? even the FOC help and assistance on this forum is begining to become limited with only a few cliques getting more than a few responses many of which are just lame "nice set", "good pics" etc ....... is the next step on TP to offer some form of payment for any help and assistance? Shame really?

To the OP have a great day hope you find someone to do your special day justice but if not just ask your guests to snap away with P&S/Mobile phones etc and pass on any photos ..... these will mean a lot more to you.
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Whilst I agree in the main with your post, the section in bold is a little off in all honesty. Somebody posting this general feedback on photos may not be overly confident to provide detailed feedback; your post shows a lot of consideration (compassion even) for people's positions but then you lose sight of this by criticising a key part of our community. :shrug:
 
Let me just consider this for a nanosecond. Travel to Cornwall is going to cost for probably 99% of the membership of TP, then, once you get there you need somewhere to rest your weary head. (Getting up at silly O'clock is Ok when shooting landscapes but not before you work a 12 hour day) And then you have to get home again afterwards. If you left Cornwall at 9pm after working a full day when would you get home?

You run the risk of not getting very good pics or suffering a breakdown of your kit (yes, we are back to having backup gear and even on a freebie) and potentially being slagged off to anyone who will listen, both here and wedding forums.

So those are the expenses and the risks invloved.

The upsides? You might be allowed to use the pics. (That's not confirmed)
You get the experience.......................

I'll tell you what is a much better bet. Go and shoot as a second for nothing. You may have to travel a little outside your area but you get to work with someone who knows what they are doing, you will get better pics and you have none of the risk.

I'm afraid that I am also in the camp of, "hang on a mo, you would not ask for any of the other services for your wedding for nothing so why the photography?" Anyone has an oven, go and ask for a cake for free, after all it's good experience!
 
AliB said:
I'm afraid that I am also in the camp of, "hang on a mo, you would not ask for any of the other services for your wedding for nothing so why the photography?" Anyone has an oven, go and ask for a cake for free, after all it's good experience!
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I'm with you here but as an aside I also know Cake Makers and MUA's who have worked for not much over costs in order to build experience and portfolio (if a cake maker has a portfolio - you know what I mean).

Hugh
 
boyfalldown said:
I'm with you here but as an aside I also know Cake Makers and MUA's who have worked for not much over costs in order to build experience and portfolio (if a cake maker has a portfolio - you know what I mean).

Hugh
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My wife makes cakes as a side-line; struggled to make costs back for a long time!
 
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