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Hi, OK I have seen people out and about with these, photographers on Youtube with them and ALL seem to use/have two yet online many are sold as single poles why is that? (and please no funnies about a one legged person) Also how do you decide on what length of pole you should be using?
Thankyou. Russ
 
Walking poles were introduced by Chris Brasher many years ago. He worked on the Nordic Walking principle whereby you use the poles as a positive aid to propulsion. The idea being the you use your otherwise largely redundant arms to push through the poles and give you a gain in speed. If done well the system works.

Trouble is nowadays they have become a fashion accessory. Every Tom, Dick and Harry who goes out walking has them because they are the thing to have. Most folk just wave them around and get no benefit from them. They are sometimes an aide descending rough terrain but those who don't know how to use them properly don't go to such places.

One pole on its own is neither use nor ornament. Usually Mr & Mrs Retired Rambler will buy a pair and use one each. Keeps the cost down but they still look the part.

Used properly they are very helpful. Carried to keep in line with everyone else, they are a waste of money.

There is a technique to using them which is simple to pick up, but like anything it needs practice to perfect.

I sometimes use mine when out on uphill terrain with a full pack on my back. The extra power obtained by using my arms does help propulsion.

Are they a good idea? Yes, if used properly. If you are going less than a mile or so then I wouldn't bother.
 
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I have a pair but carry one at a time. Having said that, I don't use it as a walking aid but as an easy-to-carry monopod and a hook to pull blackberry canes towards me when out picking. Most seem to be adjustable lengths, often with markings on the extending part to help set them up.
 
Poles are nearly always adjustable in length. This also aids storage. As a general rule you have them longer on uphill stretches when you place them in front of you to generate drive. On downhill stretches you shorten them and place them behind your legs as support. Never put them in front of you going down hill; you are more likely to topple forward. Place them behind you and the worst that can happen is that you finish up on votre arriere.
 
There is a great difference between trekking poles and Nordic walking poles. Nordic poles are used with a glove like attachment which fits onto your wrist and clips onto the pole, you barely hold the pole while walking and you get cardio exercise similar to using a cross trainer at the gym
Trekking poles you actually hold the poles, we see lots of people using trekking poles when we are out with our Nordic poles and TBH wonder why they bother as they seem to be more for show than support.
Google Leki for poles and also Nordic walking for more info
 
I have a pair of these....

http://www.pacerpole.com/product/what-is-a-pacerpole

....and they have transformed by walking. As a middle-aged and slightly overweight chap with dodgy knees I was definitely coming to a time when anything more than a stroll on the flat was becoming a problem, then I got pacer poles. In 2015 I climbed Scafell Pike for the first time in 30 years, it was difficult on a hot May Saturday but I got there which would not have been possible without the poles. as Mickledore says, they are not really much use for a stroll or singly but on a day in the hills I find them invaluable.

Andy
 
One pole on its own is neither use nor ornament.

If you want to use poles as in Nordic Walking, I'd agree, but if not, then a single pole can be useful.

Must admit I don't use mine very often but it is handy descending difficult ground, testing some boggy areas (if the pole firmly pushed into the surface doesn't sink in then my weight spread over my size 10s should be OK) and stream crossing(I try to avoid this if I can but the extra "leg" is useful if it has to be done)

Dave
 
Some people use one pole, some use two (and some don't use them at all). Some people use it/them properly and find them very helpful. Some people seem to use them just to trip other people up...........:( I've used one stick for walking ever since I broke my leg back in my dim and distant youth. I've tried two - just can't get the hang of it at all. Now I tend to carry mine more than use it but it's there for poking mires, crossing rivers and sometimes even as a monopod.
 
I started using two trekking poles recently and wish I'd done it sooner. Uphill, they bring your upper body strength into play rather than just using your legs - it's like carrying a banister with you. In real terms, this means I can walk for longer without stopping to rest. Downhill, I feel vastly safer, especially on rocky or slippy terrain with a heavy pack on my back. I always have 3 points of contact with the ground.

Most poles are adjustable - the correct height setting for level ground is that which brings your forearms level with the ground when the pole is placed vertically. Shorten them a little for ascent and lengthen them for descent. I recommend the clip adjustable versions rather than twist adjustable, as they are less prone to collapsing on you. FWIW, I bought Alpkit Shox, and they are excellent.
 
Two ways to use a poles. First like a traditional thumb stick which was used to steady your self while walking on rough ground Or as a shooting aid.
Or Nordic style when the poles are used for propulsion. They are two very different concepts.

I use a Brasher Hill Master pole as it converts to a monopod to steady my camera... and steadies my now uncertain gait. Though Bracher branded poles and Boots are no longer made.
 
Thankyou all for the input. Where I live i have to contend with in Summer time hard unforgiving ground, slippery but not through wet or ice but loose sand/gravel, Winter after rain it turns that sand into the stuff that sticks to your boots and again slippery. At my age 60+ I am looking at saftey when out and about in the mountains/countryside and of course making life a little easier. Again thankyou for the input. Russ
 
I started using two trekking poles recently and wish I'd done it sooner. Uphill, they bring your upper body strength into play rather than just using your legs - it's like carrying a banister with you. In real terms, this means I can walk for longer without stopping to rest. Downhill, I feel vastly safer, especially on rocky or slippy terrain with a heavy pack on my back. I always have 3 points of contact with the ground.

Most poles are adjustable - the correct height setting for level ground is that which brings your forearms level with the ground when the pole is placed vertically. Shorten them a little for ascent and lengthen them for descent. I recommend the clip adjustable versions rather than twist adjustable, as they are less prone to collapsing on you. FWIW, I bought Alpkit Shox, and they are excellent.
Hi, looked at these and for a starter the price is very good. Did you get the
Shox Twins trekking poles? Thanks. Russ
 
Hi, OK I have seen people out and about with these, photographers on Youtube with them and ALL seem to use/have two yet online many are sold as single poles why is that? (and please no funnies about a one legged person) Also how do you decide on what length of pole you should be using?
Thankyou. Russ
I once considered getting one of those trekking poles with a tripod screw in the top so it could act as a monopod. But I discovered that a big sturdy monopod makes a much more useful hillwalking staff than a trekking pole makes a good monopod. A big strong staff you can use with a two handed grip is much more useful in seriously rough terrain than those flimsy little one handed walking sticks.
 
I only ever use one pole, others swear by two - whichever you find more comfortable.

Don't buy cheap - a broken pole when you really need support is potentially very dangerous. Leki cost but are worth it.

Look on youtube for how to vids. This seems a bit silly but there is a right way to use poles such that you take the weight on the strap
and do not need to grip the pole.
 
Thank you ordered the Alpkit Shox as a starter see how I go. Russ
 
When I retired early on health grounds after spending too many years sitting behind a desk and started walking more I was startled to find that on steep descents on some of my old favourite hill walks my knees hurt. I hoped that more walking would soon strengthen them up again but it didn't. They hurt more. My doctor told me I was simply an old man with worn out knees and I'd have to learn to live with it.

I bought a pair of walking poles and they helped a lot. But I wanted to understand what had happened to my legs and knees so that they now hurt. I realised that due to my anticipation of knee pain when making a large downhill step I was gingerly reaching forward and down with an outstretched straight leg in order to minimise the drop and therefore the pain. That meant that when I finally dropped down onto the outstretched foot the shock of all my weight hitting the ground on that foot was delivered straight to my knee joint. Whereas when I was younger, lighter, and fitter, I used to bound down such downhill slopes. I would even sometimes take a big jump downwards when there was a good secure landing place. But I never used to hit the ground and arrest my drop with a straight leg. That would have been far too much of a jolt. Instead I hit the ground with partially bent knees. In that way I was able to cushion the shock of arresting my falling weight by using my thigh muscles. My knees avoided the shock by bending and transferring the load to my muscles. In turn that allowed my falling weight to be arrested over a distance of maybe a foot or more.

Whereas my now elderly timid approach of trying to minimise the drop, partly by fear of pain, partly fear of falling now I was heavier and weaker and more fragile, that was in fact greatly increasing the shock and stress on my knees. Could that in fact be the cause of the knee pain I now suffered?

On some carefully chosen easy safe downhills I tried to relearn my old technique of dropping down onto a bent knee. It seemed to work. No knee pain. I gradually worked it up to steeper slopes. Still no knee pain. Eventually I ended up being able to bound down downhill slopes, just rather more slowly and carefully, as befitted an elderly person.

I've never used the walking poles since. What had happened was that I'd been ambushed by my elderly weakness, pain, and timidity, into adopting a downhill walking gait which had started to damage my knees and increase the pain, thus starting a vicious cycle of increasing pain and increasing knee damage.
 
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I was told quite recently during a trip to Norway that the correct way for walking downhill (albeit on a path rather than rough terrain) was to ensure that the heel of the lead foot always hit the ground first (similar to the way one walks on the flat) rather than allowing the whole base of the foot to land at once. I found that this method, although a bit strange at first,certainly felt a lot more stable and resulted in a lot less pain and stiffness after the walk.
 
I have a pair of single piece carbon fibre poles (I use a much longer pole than the Nordic walking advice recommends). Mostly I just take one pole.
A pole is very useful aid to balance on uneven ground, testing boggy ground, an aid to jumping over streams/ditches etc., holding thorns aside, knocking the water off long grass and overhanging vegetation before walking through. A pole can also be very handy as a monopod type support for a camera.

Also very useful for poking an unfriendly fellow in the eye should the occasion require it :LOL:
 
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One pole on its own is neither use nor ornament.

In your opinion.

For a long time I used one Leki pole and found it very useful for a bunch of reasons, bought over 20 years ago.

In the last couple of years I've been using a pair of Pacer's. They can allow you to move faster and like using one help your knees. I've even used them in mountain marathons and they hold my tents up.
 
When I retired early on health grounds after spending too many years sitting behind a desk and started walking more I was startled to find that on steep descents on some of my old favourite hill walks my knees hurt. I hoped that more walking would soon strengthen them up again but it didn't. They hurt more. My doctor told me I was simply an old man with worn out knees and I'd have to learn to live with it.

I bought a pair of walking poles and they helped a lot. But I wanted to understand what had happened to my legs and knees so that they now hurt. I realised that due to my anticipation of knee pain when making a large downhill step I was gingerly reaching forward and down with an outstretched straight leg in order to minimise the drop and therefore the pain. That meant that when I finally dropped down onto the outstretched foot the shock of all my weight hitting the ground on that foot was delivered straight to my knee joint. Whereas when I was younger, lighter, and fitter, I used to bound down such downhill slopes. I would even sometimes take a big jump downwards when there was a good secure landing place. But I never used to hit the ground and arrest my drop with a straight leg. That would have been far too much of a jolt. Instead I hit the ground with partially bent knees. In that way I was able to cushion the shock of arresting my falling weight by using my thigh muscles. My knees avoided the shock by bending and transferring the load to my muscles. In turn that allowed my falling weight to be arrested over a distance of maybe a foot or more.

Whereas my now elderly timid approach of trying to minimise the drop, partly by fear of pain, partly fear of falling now I was heavier and weaker and more fragile, that was in fact greatly increasing the shock and stress on my knees. Could that in fact be the cause of the knee pain I now suffered?

On some carefully chosen easy safe downhills I tried to relearn my old technique of dropping down onto a bent knee. It seemed to work. No knee pain. I gradually worked it up to steeper slopes. Still no knee pain. Eventually I ended up being able to bound down downhill slopes, just rather more slowly and carefully, as befitted an elderly person.

I've never used the walking poles since. What had happened was that I'd been ambushed by my elderly weakness, pain, and timidity, into adopting a downhill walking gait which had started to damage my knees and increase the pain, thus starting a vicious cycle of increasing pain and increasing knee damage.


I might try that for my knees, thanks for posting it up.

Pete
 
When I used to go walking in the scouts, most of the scout leaders had wooden walking staffs.

Normally with little metal badges picked up from walking stores around the UK.

I reckon they should bring those back.

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