Vintage Cine Camera - Help Needed

[Lu72]

Hi all

I am hoping someone on here can help me. I am in the process of selling my great-grandfather's cine camera. It's a Dekko 9.5mm made in 1934. Someone has shown a great deal of interest in the lens and offered to buy that and not the camera. The lens is a Dallmeyer Anastigmat F3.5 20mm. I know nothing about cameras of this age so I was hoping someone on here could shed some light on how valuable the camera/lens is.

Thanks!

 

[s162216]

9.5mm film is exceedingly difficult to obtain as Pathe stopped manufacturing it in the mid 60's to early 70's if I remember correctly. Working good quality projectors are rare and processing is also limited to a few labs worldwide.

The problem is that it uses a central perforation between frames rather than to the side of the frame like pretty much all other motion picture camera so it has to be specially made, hence the reason for 9.5mm, you can get three strips by slitting unperforated 35mm film and then centrally perforating it. This also allows enthusiasts today to manufacture their own film on a small basis as 9.5mm gives a noticeable quality improvement over 8mm.

All of this basically means that the camera is likely only of value to collectors or those seriously into 9.5mm film so I've no idea of value, but the lens is C mount so it'll likely also work on 16mm cameras as most were designed to work on 16mm film and downwards. Looking at recent ebay auctions, most seem to go around the £45 to £70 mark (although those did have slight damage).

 

[Morinaka]

I doubt it's worth that much, old cine stuff usually isn't, some people try and adapt the lens for use on micro 4/3rd's cameras, no idea why though as it wouldn't cover the sensor or focus to infinity. Get what you can for it really, wouldn't worry too much about the price.

 

[s162216]

Some older cine stuff is worth more than others - Canon Super 8 cameras for instance were always/are regarded as the best of all the various Super 8 cameras and their still frequently used for dramatic effect by the BBC and in TV series as well as some major films. As so they still command a fairly high price if their in good condition.

Stuff like 9.5mm cameras are generally worth a bit more as their rarer and not quite so mainstream so they appeal to collectors, but obviously things like Kodak 8mm cine cameras are worth next to nothing as so many hundreds of thousands of them were sold.

It does help if the format is still easily available so that leaves Super 8, 16mm and possibly the older standard 8mm film as its still sold by various websites cut down and respooled.

The lens is useful as it C mount so it can be used on current 16mm cameras which are used frequently for adverts and TV series.

(I don't get the m4/3rds thing either - Pentax Auto 110 lenses for instance can be adapted to fit but theres a slight problem, they have no aperture iris as its built into the body rather than the lens so those m4/3rds lot are stuck shooting at f2.8!)

 

[Disphotic]

Unless you really need the money I'd think twice about selling it, its got family history, plus old cameras are beautiful objects, I'd put it on display at home.

If you really want to sell it talk to a few dealers and see what they think its worth.