Unwanted colour change

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When i click onto any image in my folders, the colours change immediately ( especially the reds). I don't know how or why this is happening? My colour settings in CS3 are Custom Adobe RGB as is my camera. Can anyone help !
 
Hi, i've tried doing that but still have the problem. It's only just started doing this lately, i've been using Photoshop CS3 together with Bridge for over 4 years, i must have done something somewhere ?
 
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The only way I can see this happening is if your image doesn't have a colour profile embedded or tagged in it.

Does the image in Bridge look flat?

Do you have the Colour Settings in CS3 set to warn you if you have missing or mismatched profiles and do you get any warnings of missing profiles?

What is the image format - RAW, JPEG etc?

Colin
 
Hi Colin, in answer to your questions, the image in Bridge looks as taken in my camera ie Adobe RGB(perfect ha ha ) until i click on it, the colour settings in CS3 warn me if i want to use the embedded profile or use the working profile ( i always convert to the working profile SRGB), and the changes happen to my JPEGs,TIFFs and my RAW files in Bridge?
 
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Des....

Sorry, I'm a little unclear on your workflow, so have I got this right....

1. Your camera images, JPEGS at least, are AdobeRGB. Raw isn't affected by the camera setting
2. Your AdobeRGB image looks ok in Bridge
3. You have your Workspace in CS3 set to AdobeRGB

If this is the case you wont get a warning in CS3 about Profile Mismatch. Could you post a screen shot of the warning and possibly a sample image?

I'm also not sure what you mean by clicking on it in Bridge - sorry I'm not a great fan of Bridge so seldom use it. What actually do you do in Bridge to get it to open in CS3?

Colin
 
Hi again Colin, I use Bridge to 'Get photos from camera' and use the 'temporary' file it creates (showing the date that they were taken) to put them in. Bridge is my catalogue of folders for all my work. To open an image, i left doubleclick onto it ( that's when the colour changes) and it opens the Raw fie ( or JPEG) in the Raw File Converter for processing before going into CS3 for further work perhaps. Sometimes i open old images for a second look which were taken in SRGB, hence my preference to be warned if there is a mis-match between the working space and the file.
The AdobeRGB image (which is a RAW file) looks fine in Bridge until i click onto it.
My workspace in CS3 is set to AdobeRGB.
What i don't understand is why on earth should the colour change of its own free will ???

Des.
 
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What i don't understand is why on earth should the colour change of its own free will ???
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It doesn't. When an image is opened, a colour profile is applied which gives you the picture. Change the colour profile and it changes the way a value in the image is interpreted. If no colour profile is specifdied, sRGB is assumed, and if you use an application that is not colour managed, you will get sRGB applied, even if you have an embedded profile in the photo. Until recently, Chrome was not colour managed, upload a photo to a website with Adobe RGB colour space and it would look different in different browsers. This is why the default rule is to save as sRGB once you are going outside your workflow.

Personally, I always use sRGB all the way through - to avoid issues like this (and recommend people do unless they have a specific reason not to). The other issue you can get is that because Adobe/Pro Photo are larger gamut spaces, you can process in them and when you then save to sRGB, you may well have colours that are in the image that are out of gamut in the sRGB image - deep blues typically.
 
PS. If you want to see how radically different the SAME image is in different browsers, try this page: http://www.color.org/browsertest.xalter in Chrome and IE

The images are the SAME, just they are having different colour profiles applied by the browser.
 
Thanks very much Colin, I've now changed the colour profile in my camera (NikonD300) to sRGB and the colour settings in CS3 to sRGB. I'm going to take some test photos to see if anything happens to the file.

Cheers,

Des.
 
Des...

Certainly a curious problem you have.

Both Bridge and CS3 ( I have CS4 and assume 3 is the same) use the same ACR module to render RAW images. There should be no difference in appearance between Bridge and what you see in ACR - is this where you see a difference?

Just for information RAW images do not have a colour profile/space, that's determined by ACR in your case and the profile is applied when you Open the image from ACR into the CS3 workspace for editing. There is even an option in ACR to choose what colour space you want to use.

Some odd things can happen if you have a faulty Monitor Profile. Do you calibrate and profile your screen or are you using a default monitor profile?
 
Hi Colin, I now have everything set to sRGB ! My camera, my ACR and CS3 and i'm in the process of converting all my files from Adobe RGB to sRGB. In addition i'v also made sure that the Windows System Default in Colour Management is set to sRGB to avoid this from happening again.

Hopefully all of this will work from hereonin. Thanks very much for your help, fully appreciated.

Des.
 
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