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no comments are made for a variety of reasons - for me not to reply to a post


1/ on the phone and it would take too long to reply then I forget about the thread

2/ if its a really dumb question that could be solved by the person just reading their manual correctly or a quick google search.

3/ its been answered so many times before I can't be bothered saying the same thing again

4/ if there is a reply and the reply says what I would say I'm not going to repeat it most of the time

5/ I don't know the answer.

These points have probably already been posted in this thread but I wanted to reply to make you happy :lol:

I'll help where I can but I'm not going to spend my time sifting through posts on the web when I have other things to do

Boynielaad said:
I'm aware Edinburgh Gary started a thread years ago for people to post threads where they didn't get any commentary. However, it's always seemed harsh to me that no-one makes any comment at all and some people aren't keen on asking for comments.

I regularly use the new posts button and look for 'unanswered threads' and try my best to make a comment.

Often, despite trying my best, I simply cannot think of anything useful to say but I do try. Sometimes all a thread needs is a friendly bump and the floodgates open.

So. Come on people. Please have a look at that search and try to give some encouragement to people who've posted images seeking some input.

Cheers

Andy
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ZoneV said:
You see, David, it's this kind of approach and language that doesn't come across as the most friendly way of communicating with people. Do you see what I mean by that?
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Not sure what else to say. I really don't see the point in coming into a thread just to criticise the thread and those taking part in it. Seems like trouble making to me. I did phrase it far more diplomatically a few posts back (#116), but clearly it was too subtle.

People always take "heated" debates out of context on the net. If you read this thread and imagine it was a conversation over a pint you'd get a different reading of it. I can only speak for myself, but I'm enjoying the debate, and there's absolutely no anger, frustration or bad temper in any of my replies.

Quite simply... if you don't like a thread... then leave it. If no one involved is abusing anyone else or causing trouble then I fail to see what the issue is.


People have been telling me I come across as blunt in e-mails and other written forms for decades... not much I can do about it, sorry. I call it as I see it. If we were in this theoretical pub having this debate, you'd have seen my "jog on" comment was delivered with a wry smile.

I am what I am.
 
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Pookeyhead said:
Quite simply... if you don't like a thread... then leave it.
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That's better than "jog on". Do you see how with different words you can convey the same message in a more friendly manner which avoids rubbing people up the wrong way, like at the start of this thread for example?
 
ZoneV said:
I think it's important to treat people with respect, however I communicate. Don't you?
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Yes of course, but I've seen it a lot on these forums, not just in this thread. People do seem to get their knickers in a twist very easily on here.
 
Nikon_Nick said:
Yes of course, but I've seen it a lot on these forums, not just in this thread. People do seem to get their knickers in a twist very easily on here.
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Sure, quite possibly, but it's also true that sometimes people are, intentionally or not, incredibly unfriendly in their responses. I'm not talking about breaking the rules here, just that if they were overheard spouting-off to a relative stranger in that way in "the real world", well, the least that would happen is eyebrows would be raised. It's a bit odd to say the least.
 
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Understood, but to me, this can also be down personal preference.

I don't generally appreciate downright rudeness, but I prefer it if people say to me exactly what they mean/think. Honesty without having to sugar coat it.
 
Pookeyhead said:
If you don't agree or see the value in it, just don't take part in it at all. .
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Given your first post in this thread thats pretty ironic - given that you patently don't agree with the OP or see the value in answering UAPs why did you post in the first place ?
 
Once more a debate over a clearly defined subject has descended into criticising individual personality traits. Maybe that's where these threads go wrong. Just a thought.

big soft moose said:
Given your first post in this thread thats pretty ironic - given that you patently don't agree with the OP or see the value in answering UAPs why did you post in the first place ?
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But I DO have an interest in taking part in the thread, and I wasn't here to decry the thread itself.. I actually had something to say on the subject. If I was in here to just complain about the threads very existence, or worse still, how it was being conducted, then there would be irony, yes.
 
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Nikon_Nick said:
Understood, but to me, this can also be down personal preference.

I don't generally appreciate downright rudeness, but I prefer it if people say to me exactly what they mean/think. Honesty without having to sugar coat it.
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I'm with you there - sugar coated responses would make me ill in no time at all. I understand that sometimes people get annoyed and their responses can be a bit fertile but "unfriendly" seems to be the default setting sometimes and I find it gets in the way of things, often causing threads to derail into pettiness.
 
Pookeyhead said:
Once more a debate over a clearly defined subject has descended into criticising individual personality traits. Maybe that's where these threads go wrong. Just a thought.
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I'm trying not to make this personal David but I do think that treating people with a modicum of respect would prevent so many threads descending into arguments and bad feeling and generally create a friendlier atmosphere. Just go back to the first page of this thread and see people's reaction to it.

Anyway, I'll leave it there. For what it's worth, I enjoy reading much of what you post - you clearly know what you're talking about and I've learned much from you. :thumbs:
 
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Pookeyhead said:
But I DO have an interest in taking part in the thread, and I wasn't here to decry the thread itself.. I actually had something to say on the subject. If I was in here to just complain about the threads very existence, or worse still, how it was being conducted, then there would be irony, yes.
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yeah but the OP wasnt asking for a discussion on the merits of replyimng to UAPs or not - he was asking people to reply more ... thus a post saying implicitly saying that to do so was pointless was hardly on topic

Marcel also answered the question of why people should on the first page

Marcel said:
It's called being part of a community and actively looking to help each other out. .
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But whatever - having said that whats wrong with this forum is the number of people who prioritise arguing over helping people, i'm not now going to argue the toss any further - that really would be ironic
 
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The irony is, that all those that have commented on 'this' thread... take the time to comment on other threads as well anyway. They probably posted on an unanswered thread at some point too ... go figure! :lol:
 
I have to say, I've enjoyed reading and commenting on this subject. I have broadened my horizon and understanding of other members points of view.
I will try to consider their thoughts in future. I just wish you would all understand



I'm right, you're wrong :lol:

Seriously some good points of view :thumbs:
 
Gr8Shot said:
I have to say, I've enjoyed reading and commenting on this subject. I have broadened my horizon and understanding of other members points of view.
I will try to consider their thoughts in future. I just wish you would all understand



I'm right, you're wrong :lol:
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LOL... that's what it always boils down to at some point :)



big soft moose said:
yeah but the OP wasnt asking for a discussion on the merits of replyimng to UAPs or not - he was asking people to reply more ... thus a post saying implicitly saying that to do so was pointless was hardly on topic
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I appreciate that, but my response was to the comment about him replying to threads despite having nothing useful to say. That's what I was implying is pointless. Why would you do that? Just to bump a thread?

That's long since ceased being the reason this thread has sustained 5 pages though.
 
Solo man said:
How would that work?.
An example...
I know that a comment was brought up by a member on a bird thread, and directed at another member(who is not into birds, but has tons of experience)that if you aren't into bird photography, then why are you offering any feedback on a bird thread...
The fact that some people aren't 'into' some things doesn't mean they have no worthwhile opinion.
Anyone has the right to offer critique, or not, as they see fit... opinions are as subjective as the images on display...
As a beginner I don't always feel I'm in a position to offer critique, but, I know what I like...so sometimes I offer feedback/ critique, and sometimes I just can't be arsed... it's no big deal in the grand scheme of things :shrug:
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I'm on my phone so I may get the numbers wrong, but if you looked at 2) I suggested that for each forum area you could assign a rating, as in the example, pro at weddings, poor at wildlife.

That would also serve as your confidence to be able to act as a critic on that topic, also don't forget that it's you that sets these levels, no-one else so there would be nothing to stop you adjusting the level to respond if you feel strongly enough that you have something to offer then switching it back to a level you feel more comfortable with.
 
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big soft moose said:
, i'm not now going to argue the toss any further - that really would be ironic
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I was just thinking about the irony there and I think you left it to late and did get sucked into it although you just managed to pull yourself out. :)
 
ZoneV said:
I'm trying not to make this personal David but I do think that treating people with a modicum of respect would prevent so many threads descending into arguments and bad feeling and generally create a friendlier atmosphere.
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You're referring to my initial response still I take it?

pookeyhead said:
You want me to take time out to actively look for threads to respond to, even though I have nothing useful to say in them?

If the OP wants the thread bumped why can't they do it themselves?
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Yeah.. I see what you mean.. that's shocking that.. I can see why that would upset anyone. I really should undergo a complete personality change to stop such deplorable behaviour.

...or people can stop being so soft and sensitive.

I thought it WAS a good question. The OP can bump it themselves surely... if they're bothered. Stuff often goes unanswered because it gets pushed down the first page quickly... just bump it.
 
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Gr8Shot said:
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but its all too easy for some to be confrontational behind a computer
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Your confrontational is my challenging of ideas. I challenge everything whether behind a computer or face to face. I do not alter my behaviour.

It would appear that some forum users don't like debate, which is fine. Others do like debate and enjoy the back and forth, the banter and ultimately come away with different thoughts than at the outset.
If a debate type of thread is going on then join in or not based on your preferences but trying to stop good debate is the most concerning behaviour I see here.
 
Debate is fine and IMO is not 'uncivil' in itself - when debate becomes uncivil it is unpleasant, whoever it is from, and causes many members to give up and look elsewhere for encouragement and/or relaxation.
Too many are leaving the forum because of the 'uncivil' attitude of others.
 
ernesto said:
Your confrontational is my challenging of ideas. I challenge everything whether behind a computer or face to face. I do not alter my behaviour.

It would appear that some forum users don't like debate, which is fine. Others do like debate and enjoy the back and forth, the banter and ultimately come away with different thoughts than at the outset.
If a debate type of thread is going on then join in or not based on your preferences but trying to stop good debate is the most concerning behaviour I see here.
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im not referring to debate, im referring to direct attempts to wind people up or be rude etc.
I too enjoy a good debate and i also try to broaden my viewpoint as i try to think about the discussion from other members perspective.
 
Pookeyhead said:
You're referring to my initial response still I take it?



Yeah.. I see what you mean.. that's shocking that.. I can see why that would upset anyone. I really should undergo a complete personality change to stop such deplorable behaviour.

...or people can stop being so soft and sensitive.

I thought it WAS a good question. The OP can bump it themselves surely... if they're bothered. Stuff often goes unanswered because it gets pushed down the first page quickly... just bump it.
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Give it a rest will you. You're getting tiresome now.
 
Now that's not very nice.

I thought it was a good question. The OPs can bump their own threads if they're bothered. I've seen plenty do it, and it seems to work as well as someone else bumping it.

(shrug).

Fair enough... I'll drag my tiresome ass out of here.
 
I've always though that no replies is critique in itself really.

Entertaining thread though.
 
norters said:
I've always though that no replies is critique in itself really.
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Could be but if so it's also an absence of those willing to comment, which is where the O/P came in really :)
 
As usual there seems to be more excuses than anything else for not replying to an unanswered thread.

Nobody is forcing anybody to answer, but if you use the forum for showing your own work then why not take a quick look and answer one now and again. Once a week would be all it takes considering the membership here, yes there are people who leave C&C and it may be wrong but at least they are making an effort. If you were to listen to various people in an art gallery they would all be saying something different about a picture, none of us are experts. If you leave C&C for someone and the OP spits the dummy, then you have a choice to either discuss it in more depth or ignore it and move on, personally I learnt how to give a bit more in depth C&C when I started by taking on board what others who knew better than me were saying about my own work. So even if the OP learns nothing from it somebody else is likely to. We are all guilty when it comes to picking somebody`s brains about a problem with our heating, electrics, computers etc in oof, try phoning a tradesman up every other night and asking questions, he will soon tell you where to get off. Like I say nobody is forcing anybody but if you feel you get something out of TP, be it information or even just friendly camaraderie with other members, then surely it is not too much to give a little bit back in return once in a while.
 
May be just me but guessing others may be in same position, but I tend to read and post at work in between work, having a bit of a break etc,. so looking at photos on the screen is a bit of a giveaway that I am not working as hard as I should be!
In my defence I don't post any photos for critique either.
 
u8myufo said:
As usual there seems to be more excuses than anything else for not replying to an unanswered thread.

Nobody is forcing anybody to answer, but if you use the forum for showing your own work then why not take a quick look and answer one now and again. Once a week would be all it takes considering the membership here, yes there are people who leave C&C and it may be wrong but at least they are making an effort. If you were to listen to various people in an art gallery they would all be saying something different about a picture, none of us are experts. If you leave C&C for someone and the OP spits the dummy, then you have a choice to either discuss it in more depth or ignore it and move on, personally I learnt how to give a bit more in depth C&C when I started by taking on board what others who knew better than me were saying about my own work. So even if the OP learns nothing from it somebody else is likely to. We are all guilty when it comes to picking somebody`s brains about a problem with our heating, electrics, computers etc in oof, try phoning a tradesman up every other night and asking questions, he will soon tell you where to get off. Like I say nobody is forcing anybody but if you feel you get something out of TP, be it information or even just friendly camaraderie with other members, then surely it is not too much to give a little bit back in return once in a while.
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