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With one of the biggest fights in MMA history upcoming at UFC 229, wondering how many of you watch MMA [Bellator/UFC/Invicta etc] regular? Or do you just watch the big events?

Also, who you got on McGregor vs Khabib? Fergusson vs Pettis, or any other fights on the card?

http://uk.ufc.com/event/UFC-229#/fight
 
strumstrum said:
One of my best mates is fighting ultra MMA on the 20th at the King Power Stadium, really looking forward to it.
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Nice! WIll you be photographing the event? I had the chance to take the place of another photographer shooting an MMA event in Dublin a few years back, but something came up and I had to bail out :/ would have loved it

On tomorrow night's main event [well, Sunday morning more like] - Both Khabib and McGregor made weight so fight is on!
 
Big fan of McGregor, he can be a bit marmite but I hope he gets the win tomorrow night.
 
Think McGregor may be ring rusty ,Khabib is no push over
 
I'm a McGregor fan too, not a mental fanboy as I see some out there [youtube, other sites] but I love him as an entertainer, of course I love to see any Irish athlete do well too. I totally get why some despise him though, but even they help push up the numbers. There's as many, if not more, that long to see him fail. You cannot deny he has a gift for stirring s*8t though :D you just have to watch if you're even half interested.

My prediction, without bias, is a messy round 1- McGregor landing some and stuffing take downs, Khabib getting a bit frustrated - KO rnd 2 by Conor, Khabib has no chin, he usually gets opponents down where he is strongest before they get to land too many shots. McGregor is probably the hardest and most precise striker in the division, he only needs to keep it standing.

Other bouts, I hope Pettis owns Ferguson, I don't like either but Tony is a complete douche, he is the ultimate cringe king. He's not quite as good as he likes to imagine, I think Khabib would have rag dolled him - I have watched The Ultimate fighter since season 1, we've seen some great fighters come through it, Ferguson isn't one of them IMHO. He's good, has a great record [chock full of punch bags and so-so fighters] but unlike McGregor, his performances don't live up to his mouthing
 
Only a few hours away now, anyone else going to fight through and stay up for this one? I kind of have to, otherwise I couldn't even look at my phone in the morn for spoilers
 
Waa Waa waa :(
 
Unfortunate events after the fight, but the event itself was entertaining. McGregor had one job; don't get taken down - it was always going to go that way otherwise. But the other fights were good, that comeback by Lewis! Just shows, having power is a huge benefit.
 
He's done the sport no favours with that display after the fight. All those who think its just an excuse for a couple of thugs to kick the sh!t out of each other will have their prejudices confirmed.

Felt a bit sorry for Mcgregor, even though he is a dick sometimes, its always hard to see a great humbled like that, he was well and truly beaten,
 
jakeblu said:
He's done the sport no favours with that display after the fight. All those who think its just an excuse for a couple of thugs to kick the sh!t out of each other will have their prejudices confirmed.

Felt a bit sorry for Mcgregor, even though he is a dick sometimes, its always hard to see a great humbled like that, he was well and truly beaten,
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The thing about McGregor is that he accepts defeat very well, he had more of a "Oh well" look about him than any kind of sadness, and he would have shaken Khabib's hand if the madness didn't kick off - He was the same after the first Diaz fight and the Mayweather boxing match. He goes back to the drawing board, doesn't dwell on it. He's not like Rhonda Rousey, who legged it as soon as she suffered a couple of losses.

Who knows what will happen with Khabib, it seems they are holding back he's winnings and also the belt, if they don't make an example out of him then others will see it as a free for all
 
Cagey75 said:
The thing about McGregor is that he accepts defeat very well, he had more of a "Oh well" look about him than any kind of sadness, and he would have shaken Khabib's hand if the madness didn't kick off - He was the same after the first Diaz fight and the Mayweather boxing match. He goes back to the drawing board, doesn't dwell on it. He's not like Rhonda Rousey, who legged it as soon as she suffered a couple of losses.

Who knows what will happen with Khabib, it seems they are holding back he's winnings and also the belt, if they don't make an example out of him then others will see it as a free for all
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Now I don't follow UFC but I've seen a few things flying around and heard a few of the things Connor has said to Kabib. You cant go around insulting peoples families and religion etc, while they say nothing in return and expect them not to react.

The whole Kabibs team member jumping in and attacking Connor from behind (which I don't agree with), people seem to not be paying attention to Connor throwing punches at someone he's arguing with in the ring before he jumps in.

As for making an example out of him for this, maybe its already a free for all after not doing anything to Connor for the bus incident.. Suppose that's what happens when one is the poster boy and cash cow for UFC.
 
keef32 said:
Now I don't follow UFC but I've seen a few things flying around and heard a few of the things Connor has said to Kabib. You cant go around insulting peoples families and religion etc, while they say nothing in return and expect them not to react.

The whole Kabibs team member jumping in and attacking Connor from behind (which I don't agree with), people seem to not be paying attention to Connor throwing punches at someone he's arguing with in the ring before he jumps in.

As for making an example out of him for this, maybe its already a free for all after not doing anything to Connor for the bus incident.. Suppose that's what happens when one is the poster boy and cash cow for UFC.
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What was said doesn't condone any of these actions, not in the slightest. He said bad things about him, so what? You don't get to assault someone over it and get away with it. I watched the footage, again, and McGregor defends himself, Khabib's cousin runs at him, while the other 2 were making their way over the fence also to attack him - not because of, they were going in with that purpose before Mcgregor responded. Khabib does a flying kick through the air into the crowd, could have near killed someone, and the only person who started all this nonsense was Khabib, with his crew behind him - over 10 of them harassed McGregor's team mate, bullied him when he was on his own, that was slimey and I'm not surprised there was a lash back. He should have been warned then, Artem is also a UFC fighter, where was the protection for him? The bus incident was ridiculous, but the courts handled McGregor, he showed up to answer for it - I reckon same thing should have happened with Khabib and his crew but McGregor didn't want to press charges, he easily could have.

I don't really care about it now tbh, it's done, the fight itself was all I wanted to see, on to the next ... The UFC is about much more than those guys, plenty of other excellent fighters.
 
violent thugs, Dana White, Millions of dollars, that's the outcome
 
Cagey75 said:
What was said doesn't condone any of these actions, not in the slightest.
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So someone stands in your face insulting your family and religion and you do nothing about I?
 
keef32 said:
So someone stands in your face insulting your family and religion and you do nothing about I?
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Oh i'd beat the bejaysis out of them, just for the family part - I don't give a flying funk about religion. But I'm not a paid pro. I would have to face the consequences for my actions too. You seem to think Khabib is somehow innocent here, you skipped over the part about him starting it all off.

I don't care about either of them tbh, as I said, there's many more fighters to watch, screw these 2 buffoons. One as bad as the other in my eyes.

I don't know why everyone is acting like this is some kind of first either, look at Boxing history, mayhem inside and outside the ring, Mike Tyson anyone? telling opponents he would eat their children, biting opponent's ears off, convicted of rape - yet many people still idolise him, crazy.
 
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Cagey75 said:
Oh i'd beat the bejaysis out of them, just for the family part - I don't give a flying funk about religion. But I'm not a paid pro. I would have to face the consequences for my actions too. You seem to think Khabib is somehow innocent here, you skipped over the part about him starting it all off.

I don't care about either of them tbh, as I said, there's many more fighters to watch, screw these 2 buffoons. One as bad as the other in my eyes.

I don't know why everyone is acting like this is some kind of first either, look at Boxing history, mayhem inside and outside the ring, Mike Tyson anyone? telling opponents he would eat their children, biting opponent's ears off, convicted of rape - yet many people still idolise him, crazy.
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I think you've misunderstood me, if charges hadn't been dropped then he should face the full force of the law, I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished. But I am fully behind him leathering someone for insulting his family and religion (I'm with you on the religion front but it matters to him a lot apparently).

Its a disgusting way to go about things, the way most fighters in most sports "trash talk". Like Tyson you've mentioned.

Imagine it in any other sport haha
 
keef32 said:
I think you've misunderstood me, if charges hadn't been dropped then he should face the full force of the law, I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished. But I am fully behind him leathering someone for insulting his family and religion (I'm with you on the religion front but it matters to him a lot apparently).

Its a disgusting way to go about things, the way most fighters in most sports "trash talk". Like Tyson you've mentioned.

Imagine it in any other sport haha
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Khabib's own father has said his son should be punished for his actions. It was absolutely idiotic what he did, he had just proven himself and got revenge in the best manner, in the octagon! He stooped to McGregor's level with what he did after, I have no love or sympathy for either of them.

There is smack talk in other sports too, it's the competitive nature of athletes maybe, using any of their opponent's weaknesses against them. There's been many a scandal down through the years. It'll blow over, it's not near the big deal the tabloids are making out, the whole thuggery thing - there was a few bad words exchanged, a few slaps thrown, they'll get over it. There's 100s of fighters who are clean, respectful and always professional, a couple bad eggs shouldn't ruin it for them. But the hype merchants will ride this as much as possible, scandal sells more than clean cut
 
Cagey75 said:
I watched the footage, again, and McGregor defends himself, Khabib's cousin runs at him, while the other 2 were making their way over the fence also to attack him - not because of, they were going in with that purpose before Mcgregor responded
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Seen this angle? Mcgregor tries to go over the cage into the crowd pulled back and lands the first punch on one of Khabib's team as he's going over the cage, starting a reaction.

https://BANNED/twitter/statuses/1048839301910466560
 
keef32 said:
Seen this angle? Mcgregor tries to go over the cage into the crowd pulled back and lands the first punch on one of Khabib's team as he's going over the cage, starting a reaction.

https://BANNED/twitter/statuses/1048839301910466560
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That only strengthens the fact that Khabib leaped at his team first. Only mouthy haters and armchair warriors really care about any of that either way.

John Kavanagh is on Joe Rogan right now, and he gives less of a s*** about it than the bandwagon warrior fanboys, it's amusing. He's so laid back talking about it, and also full of praise for Khabib
 
Cagey75 said:
That only strengthens the fact that Khabib leaped at his team first. Only mouthy haters and armchair warriors really care about any of that either way.

John Kavanagh is on Joe Rogan right now, and he gives less of a s*** about it than the bandwagon warrior fanboys, it's amusing. He's so laid back talking about it, and also full of praise for Khabib
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That wasn't up for debate... He clearly went for Connors team first. But you said he was defending himself, which he isn't, he's attacking people. Should he be made an example of if Khabib should be?
No wonder he dropped charges, if he's assaulting people himself.

Both are just as bad as each other in attacking others teams, only one had actual personal reasons to
 
keef32 said:
That wasn't up for debate... He clearly went for Connors team first. But you said he was defending himself, which he isn't, he's attacking people. Should he be made an example of if Khabib should be?
No wonder he dropped charges, if he's assaulting people himself.

Both are just as bad as each other in attacking others teams, only one had actual personal reasons to
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I'm only into UFC for the fighting in the octagon, not the clowning outside of it - I'm so non interested in the aftermath. I've been watching UFC since it began, I have watched every season of TUF too - I love the sport, not the bull that occasionally surrounds it. Even Joe Rogan said tonight to Kavanagh - He was right there beside where it happened, and at the time he thought this is crazy, but next morning he thought - Meh, big deal, nobody got killed, nobody even got hurt, life goes on.

What's Khabib going to do about Colby Covington's remarks about him I wonder? “[Khabib Nurmagomedov is a filthy animal,” Covington said on Twitter. “Way to set the sport back 20 years you stupid sheep f**ker.” Is he going to go attack him and his team too?

Forget all that nonsense either way, it doesn't matter to genuine fans of the sport, they know this was a rarity, there's events on almost weekly lately and you won't find the casual youtube and twitter warriors watching them. They only watch the over hyped events and spend weeks on comment sections smack talking like heroes, doubt many of them can even throw a punch.

Sunday night's event is meh, but Nov 3rd is tasty enough - Diaz Vs Poirier, Rockhold Vs Weidmann, an as yet to be named main event ... http://www.ufc.com/event/UFC-230
 
Bring back Pride !
 
Mr Bump said:
Bring back Pride !
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Aye, I'd be up for that! Bellator are at least making a go of it, mostly UFC left overs atm though

Chael Sonnen V Fedor is tasty enough, and Mitrione V Bader should be a belter
 
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keef32 said:
That wasn't up for debate... He clearly went for Connors team first. But you said he was defending himself, which he isn't, he's attacking people. Should he be made an example of if Khabib should be?
No wonder he dropped charges, if he's assaulting people himself.

Both are just as bad as each other in attacking others teams, only one had actual personal reasons to
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I'm no fan of McGregor's, and you clearly aren't either, but Khahib had just jumped the octagon and attacked his team, not sure what you'd expect him to do? Before that, I didn't see Mcgregor doing anything except sit on the floor reflecting on his defeat. What happened after the fight was over, was Khabib's fault and no-one else's.
 
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Khabib is apparently threatening to quit the UFC if his cousin, the guy who attacked McGregor, is released from the company. On to Bellator then Khabib ... the UFC aren't going to change their minds for that, if that is what they decide. As good as he is, he doesn't draw the crowds, not even a fraction of the masses the flock to see the likes of McGregor win or lose, they don't like ultimatums either.
 
jakeblu said:
but Khahib had just jumped the octagon and attacked his team, not sure what you'd expect him to do? Before that, I didn't see Mcgregor doing anything except sit on the floor reflecting on his defeat. What happened after the fight was over, was Khabib's fault and no-one else's.
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Have you seen the video I posted above showing mcgregor trying to follow him over the cage, then when he's pulled back attacks a member of Khabib's team? He's hardly done nothing.
 
keef32 said:
Have you seen the video I posted above showing mcgregor trying to follow him over the cage, then when he's pulled back attacks a member of Khabib's team? He's hardly done nothing.
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Yes, I've seen the video but it doesn't show the timeline of events. McGregor tried to go over the Octagon well after Khabib had. Prior to that McGregor was sat on the floor, looking sorry for himself.
This video is more contemporaneous which shows the timeline of events. Again, the one that instigated the trouble was Khabib, if he hadn't have jumped the cage non of this would have happened. Frankly, the pair of them have done their sport no favours and the sooner UFC moves on the better.

View: https://youtu.be/uYjMnG03tBs
 
jakeblu said:
Yes, I've seen the video but it doesn't show the timeline of events. McGregor tried to go over the Octagon well after Khabib had. Prior to that McGregor was sat on the floor, looking sorry for himself.
This video is more contemporaneous which shows the timeline of events. Again, the one that instigated the trouble was Khabib, if he hadn't have jumped the cage non of this would have happened. Frankly, the pair of them have done their sport no favours and the sooner UFC moves on the better.

View: https://youtu.be/uYjMnG03tBs
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So what you are saying is that because Khabib jumped the cage first this gives Mcgregor the right to assault people?

What Khabib did was wrong, what McGregor did was just as wrong.
 
I thought we'd already established that both are clowns right now?

Anyone watching the Bellator events over the weekend?
 
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