Tube drivers striking again? FFS...

[Moos3h]

Now, I'm perfectly happy to be proved wrong, and that it is somehow justified, but I'm really irritated by the prospect of yet another tube strike this coming week.

It's going to inconvenience thousands, possibly millions of punters, and to what ends? When I'm unhappy with my job or conditions, do I stand outside with a f*cking placard? No. I just either put up and shut up, or get another job.

Striking is, in my opinion, failing to do your job and employers should be well within their rights just to get shot of you and replace you with someone who IS will to do the job at the advertised conditions.

These are just my opinion, and I'm the first to admit I don't know all the ins and outs of it all - just an irritated punter who will be struggling on the number seven.

Cheers,
James

 

[RobbieW]

Like you I don't know the full circumstances behind their reasons for striking, but alot of companies this year were unable to give their employees huge pay rises, some were only just in line with inflation.

In fact alot of companies are going through cost cutting exercises which means uncertanty for employees and their families. These people aren't striking and trying to bring distruption to those around them.

I am fed up with hearing about people stricking, there are plenty of people in this country who would like a job I think the ability to strike should be removed. Although there is bound to be some jumped up brussels person who would say its a human right to sdtrike and drag it through the courts!

 

[natjag]

great way to add congestion to the streets. I bet they wont let anyone off the congestion charge due to the inconveniance.

 

[apodo]

It is not tube drivers who are striking but maintenance workers for Metronet, the company which went into administration a couple of months ago

Nor is the dispute over pay, it is about the risk of losing pensions, which the government had promised would be would be safe when it originally privatized their jobs, and because of the lack of any job security beyond the period of administration.

Michael.

 

[theMusicMan]

It is not tube drivers who are striking but maintenance workers for Metronet, the company which went into administration a couple of months ago

Nor is the dispute over pay, it is about the risk of losing pensions, which the government had promised would be would be safe when it originally privatized their jobs, and because of the lack of any job security beyond the period of administration.

Michael.

Valid point re the risk of losing pensions - which isn't acceptable and the government should be doing something about this.

However, your point regarding job security holds no weight with me I'm afraid. There are very few positions or companies with 'jobs for life' nowadays, and job security is very much related to the success of the company you work for, which in turn is related to your performance.

 

[Moadib]

I think the ability to strike should be removed. Although there is bound to be some jumped up brussels person who would say its a human right to sdtrike and drag it through the courts!

Why on earth should a freedom like that be banned? A company has the power to carte blanche apply a power across a group of people - a strike is simply equalising of that power, that the group of people who can be affected by the company have the power to talk back.

In this case the company can choose how they will invest their money in the coming year, and their choice to invest a small amount in the workforce will result in below inflation salary adjustments, and therefore salary reductions. Other avenues of negotiation presumably having failed, of course the workforce should have the freedom not to work.

Inflation will be carried by whoever is unwilling to fight it, and if anything we should be thankful that workforces do stand up and show governments that actually it's not acceptable to steal an extra 2%+ of our money every year, on top of everything they waste in tax.

Sorry for the rant, but freedoms mean a lot to me, and inflation theft is a particular annoyance

 

[minimeeze]

Like you I don't know the full circumstances behind their reasons for striking, but alot of companies this year were unable to give their employees huge pay rises, some were only just in line with inflation.


I am fed up with hearing about people stricking, there are plenty of people in this country who would like a job I think the ability to strike should be removed. Although there is bound to be some jumped up brussels person who would say its a human right to sdtrike and drag it through the courts!

We didn't get a huge payrise - in fact it was lower than the rate of inflation. We are expected to work long hours, all day and most of the night, often without breaks (22 hours is not unheard of), and yet we are not ALLOWED to strike, so where are my human rights?

 

[RobbieW]

Inflation will be carried by whoever is unwilling to fight it, and if anything we should be thankful that workforces do stand up and show governments that actually it's not acceptable to steal an extra 2%+ of our money every year, on top of everything they waste in tax.

What has striking got to do with showing the goverment thats this is not acceptable? Do you see the government turning round and saying of course you can have what you want just cause your on strike? Infact striking actually annoys alot of the british people and their sympathy goes altogether.

 

[Ross]

If they wanted to gain the sympathy of the public they should keep on working and just let everyone use the tube for free

I have no sympathy for the strikers.

 

[Moadib]

What has striking got to do with showing the goverment thats this is not acceptable? Do you see the government turning round and saying of course you can have what you want just cause your on strike? Infact striking actually annoys alot of the british people and their sympathy goes altogether.

Sympathy won't protect the value of your money - these people are trying to, in addition to protecting their own. Our money supply has been increasing at 13% per year, meanwhile the economy grows at <3%. That's why we have extraordinary asset inflation. To rub salt in the wound the government offers a salary adjustment that is lower than the huge asset inflation, it's even below the ridiculously manipulated CPI level. No wonder people don't want to work for the government.

More than a million people marched on London - the government didn't listen. The house of lords has rejected their "laws" - the government didn't listen. A man has camped outside parliament for years - the government doesn't listen. So now you tell me strikes won't make them listen.

What will? And will it work before our money loses more value?

 

[Chris L]

Infact striking actually annoys alot of the british people and their sympathy goes altogether.

If it's a fact then you can provide a link to show this?

If they wanted to gain the sympathy of the public they should keep on working and just let everyone use the tube for free

I have no sympathy for the strikers.

How exactly can the employees of a company that's responsible for track maintenance let everyone travel free?

You do realise it's a different company that's responsible for collecting the fares from people who use the underground?

 

[RobbieW]

If it's a fact then you can provide a link to show this?



How exactly can the employees of a company that's responsible for track maintenance let everyone travel free?

You do realise it's a different company that's responsible for collecting the fares from people who use the underground?

This shows peoples opinion on the airport strikes and yes there are some who are for it, but alot seem to be against it. I for one am ******ed off with people striking, if they don't like their job and terms of employment then do something about it rather than stand there like a bunch of dumb a$$es stopping the rest of us getting on with our lives and businesses.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/2443951.stm

 

[Ross]

How exactly can the employees of a company that's responsible for track maintenance let everyone travel free?

You do realise it's a different company that's responsible for collecting the fares from people who use the underground?

Sorry my mistake, that w****r Bob Crow calls for strikes so damn often I've given up caring who, why and what for.

That's what happens when you do something at the drop of a hat, the message you're trying to get across just becomes diluted and nobody cares any more - apart from the realisation of the bloody nuisance you're becoming. Boy who cried wolf affect, if you like.