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I thought it would be good to have a dedicated thread for Topaz software as many people here seem to use it (including me).

So I'll just start the ball rolling with this ...... I've just discovered that Topaz Denoise does a pretty good job of removing the appalling grain you get after scanning 35 mm tranparencies!
 
One from me. Sharpen ai V2 (old old) does great job even in some hopeless cases as long as there is one predominant issue (focus or shake, not both, and not lens defect). V3 not so much but it's faster!
edit. 3.3.1 is definitely more acceptable than the earlier v3 iterations. If anything it now looks too subtle in some cases and can completely miss to sharpen certain parts. Shame you can't have both versions at once. I will need to check if pixel shift issue is still there.

Gigapixel makes some positive difference when trying to print just a little larger. It is good idea to do a Photoshop version too and blend the best bits of both. But as Adobe is catching up the case is not so strong any more.
 
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Love the latest de.noise version , not that happy with the latest sharpen Ai though
 
the black fox said:
not that happy with the latest sharpen Ai though
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I've trialed the Ai sharpen a few times, and I really can't get on with it.

The denoise is great though (y)
 
the black fox said:
Love the latest de.noise version , not that happy with the latest sharpen Ai though
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You get some fantastic results, I've seen a lot of them in the Olympus OMD thread. When you say the latest Denoise version, which do you mean? I'm still on v3.1.2. I use it for sharpening as well, and it cleans up some images that Lightroom really struggles with.
 
Cobra said:
I've trialed the Ai sharpen a few times, and I really can't get on with it.

The denoise is great though (y)
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my p.o.v to TILL about 10 minutes ago just watched this u.tube video by Anthony morganti
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCrhj-UIQ98

and it all fell into place all the missing pieces well worth a few minutes of your time and even if you do as I do and process in P/S it still works fine ... tried it out and trust me its now even faster to process . topaz are at fault here by just making changes without a tutorial update .but this one suffices
 
Cheers Jeff I'll have a look in a bit (y)
 
jerry12953 said:
I thought it would be good to have a dedicated thread for Topaz software as many people here seem to use it (including me).

So I'll just start the ball rolling with this ...... I've just discovered that Topaz Denoise does a pretty good job of removing the appalling grain you get after scanning 35 mm tranparencies!
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Wouldn't this make more sense if it were posted in the Post Processing forum?? (Not all photography is imitation imaging.)
 
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Winslowe said:
Wouldn't this make more sense if it were posted in the Post Processing forum??
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I'm not totally sure where you are looking,
but that is exactly where it is

Opera-Snapshot_2021-11-16_152913_www.talkphotography.co.jpg
 
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Winslowe said:
Wouldn't this make more sense if it were posted in the Post Processing forum?? (Not all photography is imitation imaging.)
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sorry for off-topic reply. Surely your logic means that cooking of ingredients is imitation of food also, and likewise you should ride a horse. Good luck with that logic particularly right in this subforum.
 
Winslowe said:
Wouldn't this make more sense if it were posted in the Post Processing forum?? (Not all photography is imitation imaging.)
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My image above and indeed 99% of my images are as shot , all topaz does is cures digital noise and sharpens parts of the image where it’s soft . Exactly the same as techniques that were applied when I was shooting film and blocking and dodging in the the darkroom , photography has ALWAYS a been imitation imaging in one form or another
 
Could have sworn that it was in "Talk Photography" at first!
 
I use Topaz Sharpening AI and think it is very good, however it is not perfect. I use it for motorsport and it can make a mess of things in the background on panning shots.
Also it can struggle with logos and it can depend how "straight on" when the shot was taken as to how well it deals with the letters of the various advertising logos..

Fortunately the Masking is easy to use but doing it Auto style can sometimes run into issues as I think it uses tones to distinguish between things and when the tones are close it can include things you don't want.
Also find that sometimes the Auto functions can be very aggressive in the sharpening so I find it pays to twiddle the slides to get the effect you want.

It's one of those things that works quite well out the box but you need to keep an eye on the whole image and be prepared to use the masks or twiddle the sliders.
 
Jerry thanks for starting this. sorry I'm not contributing much bit more ragged than normal right now..ha which is saying something

folks there's a black friday deal ending on the 29th Nov I'm unsure if it's an existing user thing or open to all?

Basically 100USD which I think is around £75, for giga sharpen and Denoise for a year

I'm pretty sure i'm going for it although the purse strings are waaay too tight



take care all

stu
 
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It's because DXO is an almost complete processing app. I've not updated Lightroom since it went subscription only so I'm guessing DXOLab will do a better job in many respects than LR 6.14 does. The change had been on the cards for a couple of years so when I discovered that DXO was on offer at 50% off I couldn't resist.

I'll still use LR for HDR and panorama merges though. :)
 
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It's because DXO is an almost complete processing app. I've not updated Lightroom since it went subscription only so I'm guessing DXOLab will do a better job in many respects than LR 6.14 does. The change had been on the cards for a couple of years so when I discovered that DXO was on offer at 50% off I couldn't resist.

I'll still use LR for HDR and panorama merges though. :)
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Brentor said:
Can we ask why?
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Hi, I also use the stand alone version of L/R 6 perpetual didn't see the point of going any further forward with L/R as so many other options out there how ever getting back to the thread point Topaz !! Have used for some time even before the AI raised it's head and they body swerved on the users/customers having updates for life by using again the AI at the end of there software titles. I use or should say used Topaz Denoise AI for some time exporting from L/R6 but best option format being TIFF and On1 photo raw 2022 now allowing the use of RAW files throughout your PP in one application I jumped ship also from Topaz but! and there is always a but! I have found that On1 2022 is very, very slow compared to Topaz software.
Now after all that and this being a Topaz thread and you jumping to DXO I have to ask, Compared to Topaz apart from the all in one application what is on par or better in DXO IYO please? Thanks, Russ.
 
I've only got as far as downloading it yet so far! It will be quite a while before I get to the point where I can make an objective comparison because of the learning curve involved with new software.

I did consider all the (mainstream) apps and discarded straight away those whose USP is how easy it is to replace skies..... It just looked like DXO was the most "grown up" of the LR competitors but we shall see.
 
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It just looked like DXO was the most "grown up" of the LR competitors
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You can choose to have it use a catalogue (database) or you can have it use sidecar files. I prefer the first, but it's personal. If using the catalogue option, it's good to be clear where that lives on your system for backup purposes.

You can also choose in preferences how it opens & presents raw files from a list of presets.
 
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You can choose to have it use a catalogue (database) or you can have it use sidecar files. I prefer the first, but it's personal. If using the catalogue option, it's good to be clear where that lives on your system for backup purposes.

You can also choose in preferences how it opens & presents raw files from a list of presets.
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I'll go with the simplest way.....or the most like Lighroom, that is.
 
jerry12953 said:
It's because DXO is an almost complete processing app. I've not updated Lightroom since it went subscription only so I'm guessing DXOLab will do a better job in many respects than LR 6.14 does. The change had been on the cards for a couple of years so when I discovered that DXO was on offer at 50% off I couldn't resist.

I'll still use LR for HDR and panorama merges though. :)
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Probably best to change thread title to dxo software....
 
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Probably best to change thread title to dxo software....
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Nah I'll keep coming back asking questions here........................... just cause i'm slow we don't need to run about like headless chucks renaming owt :LOL:

This post might reach ya in another time zone.I'm now downloading AI sharpen and giga pixie and updates till next year on denoise for £54. Out in the sticks that probably means a long wait and much going pearshaped

Hmm one of them has a net work error already and that was genuinely seen after the words were written

ahh well there always tomorrow

Jerry soz mate ya can't have ya thread back now.:p :LOL: ....I'm off to watch ancient Jeff's video on sharpen AI and hope i'm not as old as him when it finally gets here...the problem is the video probably won't play until all the downloading stuff is done

Hey ho onwards and downwards
 
Ha funny I was so happy last night these two little plugins were me birthday pressie couldn't believe the deal Topaz gave me,

my out in the stick web is so slow the topz stuff finally finished getting into the PC around 3 or 4 AM, woke up this morn switched on PC and now PSCC is updating. I'll use them as a plug in so I'm sure that will be a fight as all things like this are for me.

Jeff watched the vid that will be a huge help TFS
 
guys can anyone educate me as to how I get these..latest versions of denoise gigpixel and Sharpen AI into the latest version of PSCC as plug in's, i'm running windows 10

many thanks

stu
 
Hey lads thanks so much for the time taken to reply. the auto install route didn't happen sadly.......... I went through the topaz site and tried to auto install from there.and then tried the pages you linked Jerry. I am seriously dumb with all this guys. :(


I think repeat think I got blocked because I had the software open so it was acting as a stand alone ? So for all I know maybe it did everything automatically Anyways after hours and hours of frustration and one blinding head ache LOL I ended the eve with Denoise and Sharpen in place in the filter menu. I guess we are all made different this stuff is always a knife fight for me and yet my own son is an utter genius makes computers writes programs bla de bla, I just wanted to get there on my own really but god it's hard work for me

Giga pixel might also be installed would anyone be able to tell me just where in PSCC's latest incarnate might live? It just occured to me it might be elsewhere than the filter menu? I didn't actually try to install it but then I'm not completely sure I installed sharpen.


Sorry for being so vague I watched a you tube vid and a guy basically talked me through it ha that's if it wasn't there already:banghead:


huge thanks for the help. sorry for being so brain dead it is what it is......lol I can make things but the digital domain floors me

take care
 
To answer my own Q... for the next guy it is elsewhere than the filter menu in PSCC ...giga pixel lives under

File......Automate... Topaz gigapixel AI

Jerry thank you i'll take all the luck I can get :)
 
Tysonator said:
Hi all,
Once installed does tge application attached itself as an option in Photoshop , as I believe it is not a LightRoom plug in ! ?
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Should go straight into PS in the filters section
 
You must have LR and Ps Closed when installing topaz. It then adds itself to both when you open them next time.
 
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