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Can anyone please tell me if Tokina 11-16mm be used with nikon d700.

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nero99 said:
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Can anyone please tell me if Tokina 11-16mm be used with nikon d700.

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Not 100% sure, but i believe you can at the longer end of it's range, without vignetting? I'm sure i have read it somewhere. It may have been on Ken Rockwell's site. Cracking lens for the money. i had one that i used on my D300s, and loved it. Have since moved onto a Nikkor 14-24 F2.8 in preparation for either a D700, or D3s.
 
Its a DX lens though isn't it? So not designed for full frame sensors as far as i'm aware.....

...but..from Ken Rockwells site;

"Use on Film and FX

None of these lenses is supposed to work on film, Nikon FX or Canon full-frame.

Here's a secret: take off the filter and hood and and this Tokina 11-16mm works reasonably well as wide as 15mm, if you don't mind softer corners wide-open, on film and FX. Shoot in the Nikon D3's 5:4 mode and you're good as wide as 13mm! It also works fine on my F4 film camera: I tried it on Fuji Velvia 50! "
 
I use the 11-16 on my 1D4 with a 1.3x crop sensor. It vignettes from 11-12mm but I can use 13-16 without issue. On a full frame sensor, my guess it would vignette till about 15-16mm.

My father in law has a D700, im sure he told me there's a crop mode where you can use DX lenses on it at a reduced megapixel count (8MP) ?
 
Or get the sigma 12-24 which is an FX lens, and a bloody wide one at that!
 
And this is where it becomes a little confusing for me? the Nikkor 14-24 f2.8 appears to have the same diameter element where the lens mates to the camera body, as the 11-16 Tokina? yet Isn't the 14-24 also an FX lens? Or am i missing something here?
 
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wilko said:
And this is where it becomes a little confusing for me? the Nikkor 14-24 f2.8 appears to have the same diameter element where the lens mates to the camera body, as the 11-16 Tokina? yet Isn't the 14-24 also an FX lens? Or am i missing something here?
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an Fx lens will work fine on a DX camera, and a DX lens will fit on an FX camera but a DX lens will produce a smaller image circle and not fill a full frame sensor.
 
redddraggon said:
an Fx lens will work fine on a DX camera, and a DX lens will fit on an FX camera but a DX lens will produce a smaller image circle and not fill a full frame sensor.
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I understand that. But i always thought that the 14-24 f2.8 was an FX lens? How can this be, if the element diameter where the lens attaches to the body is the same size as in diameter as a DX lens????
 
wilko said:
I understand that. But i always thought that the 14-24 f2.8 was an FX lens? How can this be, if the element diameter where the lens attaches to the body is the same size as in diameter as a DX lens????
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Is though? I haven't got many lenses to compare, but my DX lens rear element is loads smaller than the rear elements of my FX lenses.

The 14-24 F/2.8 is FX, and most lenses have around at least 10 elements to shape the image onto the sensor, it's not just the rear element.
 
redddraggon said:
Is though? I haven't got many lenses to compare, but my DX lens rear element is loads smaller than the rear elements of my FX lenses.

The 14-24 F/2.8 is FX, and most lenses have around at least 10 elements to shape the image onto the sensor, it's not just the rear element.
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It most definately is. I have the 14-24 f2.8, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8 VRII. the 24-70, and 70-200 are far larger in diameter to the 14-24 inner element where the lens mounts onto the body????
 
wilko said:
It most definately is. I have the 14-24 f2.8, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8 VRII. the 24-70, and 70-200 are far larger in diameter to the 14-24 inner element where the lens mounts onto the body????
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redddraggon said:
The 14-24 F/2.8 is FX, and most lenses have around at least 10 elements to shape the image onto the sensor, it's not just the rear element.
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I have tried it on a D3 and it is OK at 16mm.
This is about the same as 11mm on a DX camera
 
wilko said:
And this is where it becomes a little confusing for me? the Nikkor 14-24 f2.8 appears to have the same diameter element where the lens mates to the camera body, as the 11-16 Tokina? yet Isn't the 14-24 also an FX lens? Or am i missing something here?
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wilko said:
I understand that. But i always thought that the 14-24 f2.8 was an FX lens? How can this be, if the element diameter where the lens attaches to the body is the same size as in diameter as a DX lens????
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wilko said:
It most definately is. I have the 14-24 f2.8, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8 VRII. the 24-70, and 70-200 are far larger in diameter to the 14-24 inner element where the lens mounts onto the body????
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Not quite sure what you are referring to, but you can't really tell what format a lens is designed for just by looking at it, though the focal length range is usually a pretty good clue. For example, there isn't a rectilinear zoom made below 12mm that covers full frame.

All the lenses you have listed above are full frame FX. They will also work fine on a crop format DX camera, though not ideally.

The Tokina 11-16mm is a DX lens. It will fit and function on a Nikon D3/D700, but won't work as intended except in the reduced pixel DX crop mode.
 
HoppyUK said:
Not quite sure what you are referring to, but you can't really tell what format a lens is designed for just by looking at it, though the focal length range is usually a pretty good clue. For example, there isn't a rectilinear zoom made below 12mm that covers full frame.

All the lenses you have listed above are full frame FX. They will also work fine on a crop format DX camera, though not ideally.

The Tokina 11-16mm is a DX lens. It will fit and function on a Nikon D3/D700, but won't work as intended except in the reduced pixel DX crop mode.
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Without showing you the lens in question and the camera bodies, it's difficult to explain. I would have thought for a lens to work effectively on a full frame sensor, it would need to be a larger diameter than if it was being used on a crop sensor? i'm not talking about the outer end element, i'm talking here about the inner element where you mount the lens on the body? If you compare a dx lens like a 17-200 for example with an fx lens like a 70-200 vr, compare the inner lens element diameters of both. Then you will see where i am coming from? Maybe it's because it's a wide angle zoom?
 
wilko said:
Without showing you the lens in question and the camera bodies, it's difficult to explain. I would have thought for a lens to work effectively on a full frame sensor, it would need to be a larger diameter than if it was being used on a crop sensor? i'm not talking about the outer end element, i'm talking here about the inner element where you mount the lens on the body? If you compare a dx lens like a 17-200 for example with an fx lens like a 70-200 vr, compare the inner lens element diameters of both. Then you will see where i am coming from? Maybe it's because it's a wide angle zoom?
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Completely different lenses in every sense.
 
Olly_K said:
I use the 11-16 on my 1D4 with a 1.3x crop sensor. It vignettes from 11-12mm but I can use 13-16 without issue. On a full frame sensor, my guess it would vignette till about 15-16mm.

My father in law has a D700, im sure he told me there's a crop mode where you can use DX lenses on it at a reduced megapixel count (8MP) ?
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Got agree with Olly here on my MK4 ..11-12 vignette, but over 12 mm no vignetting at all..
 
Ok.Thanks for the all info again.I will try it and see.I will close the thread.
 
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