Three New Nikon Bodies???

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A little (in the know & usually very reliable) birdy tells me that Nikon are releasing 3 new models by the end of September - a new compact, a gap filler between the D200 & D2x, and a new high end model. Nikon reps are under sacking orders not to give details. Anyone else heard of this (especially given the raft of new Canons being announced)?
 
Not heard anything yet ... but why would I ... :suspect: ... it is hardly surprising though imgo ... :shrug:


Now what new gear do I NEED ... :thinking:






:p
 
There has been loads of rumours for the last 12 months tbh

Either D200S or D300, and a D3. Going on past upgrades from D70 to D70S, I doubt there will be a big jump in spec but we'll have to see.

Possibly the end of this month or mid next month to coincide with the Canon 40D and 1Dwhatever that was leaked yesterday
 
'Fraid I can't say, being a Nikon lens designer. It would get me fired.


:lol: Only joking! No, I haven't heard anything but I guess a high end model would make sense to compete with the 1D series...
 
Always lots of rumors/speculation, heard it supposed to be happening in September and there is some big meeting in japan before the announcement, but just rumors.
 
Hmmm - I know there's always lots of rumours but this guy left his retail job on Saturday to set up his own business, so had nothing to lose. Carry on watching this space I guess!!
 
Not so bothered about the compact, but a D200-D2X filler and a top end one makes me excited. I would love to see a high resolution full frame (or 1.3X crop) sensor camera to compete with Canons 1Ds. Or maybe a large format sensor that somehow works with my lenses and fits into a pro sized body.:thumbs:
 
I don't think you'd have to be in the 'know' or a genius to predict this :suspect:

D2x has been around a while, D200 isn't a baby and when was the last 'serious' compact produced? Nikon are not as prolific in the new camera department as are Canon, thank goodness. So, this guess is somewhat inevitable! And.... the rumour mill is always rife!

As for a full-frame jobbie... who can say? Even a 1.3 crop sensor would be a bit of a mystery.... where would that leave all the DX lenses that they've invested in quite heavily? The 17-55mm f2.8 is a pro-grade standard zoom, but it is 'only' a DX lens. The previous Pro equivalent 35-70mm f2.8D, full framer, was discontinued in 2006. Whether darksiders like it or not I think a 'fuller' frame sensor is not on the cards IMO. Unless, of course, they bring out a new 'standard Pro zoom' as well in September!
 
We've had the D200-D2Xs talk on IRC quite a bit. I can't honestly see how they can make something inbetween. If they update the d200 anymore its practically a D2Xs. So if they do make this gap filler, i imagine a D2Xs replacement is inevitable. Specs would probably be 15mp, 8fps@50raw, 100-6400iso, 3" screen. I doubt nikon will bother with this live screen malarky. Putting sales gimmicks on high end pro SLR's is silly, they will sell regardless.
 
Yeah, what your saying certainly makes sense chuckles. The problem with sticking to a 1.5X crop sensor though is Nikon are going to have to work really hard to create a low noise high end camera to compete with the 5D, and for the moment at least they will be limited to the 12MP(or thereabouts) of the D2X. I know resolution is far from being the be all and end all of a camera, but they don't have anything to compete with Canons 1Ds MK2 @ 16.7 MP or the to be released MK3 with its huge 21.1 sensor (Which is pushing the resolution of medium format cameras such as the Mamiya ZD 22MP). If Nikon somehow managed to create a 1.5x crop sensor with the noise handling of the 5D then this would be great, but it seems like it would be a hard trick to pull off.
 
Ive been rumour hunting. (Remeber these are just rumours, with no evidence to back them up). But quite a few sources suggest that August 23rd/24th is quite important in terms of something being announced. There also seems to be suggestions that there will be a D300 and a D3. With regards to the D3, people are talking about a full frame sensor, but with a high speed 'DX crop mode'. this suggests that that the D2X and D2H product lines will be merged into a single product line. This certainly would be an interesting way round the DX lens problem. Also a few pictures are floating around;

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If that picture or specs are even half true, it should be an interesting product when it surfaces.:)
 
Slapo said:
Foo frame? Wat dat?
;)
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A full frame sensor is a sensor the same size as a 35mm film negative. Many digital SLR cameras use a sensor smaller than this (Which are cheaper and easier to produce), but this means cramming in more photosites (The pixel sensors) per square mm which can result in worse noise handling. A larger sensor also theorestically means you can produce a higher resolution sensor (Such as the Canon 1Ds MK2) hope that help.:)
 
That picture has been around since about 6 months after the D2x was released.

And I think Slapo was making a joke related to a recent posting on DPReview :p


Missing from the announcement was Nikon's rumored full-frame digital SLR. "Foo-frame? What dat?" asked Nikon spokesman George Takiyama when the rumor was brought up. Several reporters tried to explain the term to Takiyama, at which point he said, "No Engleesh. Speaky Japanese." When a Japanese reporter pressed the issue in Takiyama's native language, he responded in English, "Oh, you never need do dat! No foo-frame 'cause no need foo-frame! We defy laws of pheesics. Canon no can do, so dey need foo-frame."

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=24412718
 
Messiah Khan said:
A full frame sensor is a sensor the same size as a 35mm film negative. Many digital SLR cameras use a sensor smaller than this (Which are cheaper and easier to produce), but this means cramming in more photosites (The pixel sensors) per square mm which can result in worse noise handling. A larger sensor also theorestically means you can produce a higher resolution sensor (Such as the Canon 1Ds MK2) hope that help.:)
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Sarcasm went straight over your head then :thumbs:
 
divine` said:
That picture has been around since about 6 months after the D2x was released.

And I think Slapo was making a joke related to a recent posting on DPReview :p
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Ah ok. Well maybe Nikon's ergonomics designers have seen the picture and though ti was a good idea.:thumbs: Any chance of a linkage to the said Dpreview posting?

evilowl said:
Sarcasm went straight over your head then :thumbs:
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Obviously so. But id rather answer the question incase it was genuine than ignore him. :thumbs:
 
Messiah Khan said:
Ive been rumour hunting. (Remeber these are just rumours, with no evidence to back them up). But quite a few sources suggest that August 23rd/24th is quite important in terms of something being announced.
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Are Nikon going to announce my birthday to the world? How nice of them. Perhaps they'll wrap a D2x up for me too.;)
 
The interesting bit is saying how they are constructed differently to 'traditional' (read: canon i expect) to reduce noise, which would enable Sony and Nikon to stay small frame and maybe start to compete with Canon's FF noise capabilities.
 
My maths skills arn't the hottest, so I might be wrong here, but; "Image size Diagonal width 28.4mm". Wouldn't that make it a 1.23x crop sensor? Which if is the case, would render the DX lenses useless. If this is indeed the sensor being used, then the rumours of a 'near full frame sensor' with a high speed DX crop mode might be true.
 
Slapo said:
That could be a part of a D50x.
And Nikon has a dslr with a 12 MP cmos sensor, I wonder is they'll release a D2Xss ;)
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40,000 yen guide price = £175 so I seriously doubt that's for a D50 retailing for a little over double that. That sensor is designed to go in a camera costing a fair bit more....
 
That may be so but I would be hugely surprised if that sensor went in anything less than a D200S or D300 (in the next 12 months anyway)
 
A D2Xs already 12.4 MetalPixies and in 6Mpx crop mode has a frame rate of 8fps (5fps in full 12.4 Mpx). And it's a CMOS chip..... can't see too much of an excitable thing. Unless you've got a D2Hs which suddenly becomes a bit redundant. Actually, I think the D2Xs did that!
 
Messiah Khan said:
Ive been rumour hunting. (Remeber these are just rumours, with no evidence to back them up). But quite a few sources suggest that August 23rd/24th is quite important in terms of something being announced. There also seems to be suggestions that there will be a D300 and a D3. With regards to the D3, people are talking about a full frame sensor, but with a high speed 'DX crop mode'. this suggests that that the D2X and D2H product lines will be merged into a single product line. This certainly would be an interesting way round the DX lens problem. Also a few pictures are floating around;

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If that picture or specs are even half true, it should be an interesting product when it surfaces.:)
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That's one ugly camera :eek:
 
Well, the D200 has almost the same sensor the D40x and D80 have, so it could end up in the lower ranks as well after a short delay.

If there was a D3 to come out, I'd guess they would either make one with the new Sony 12 MP sensor and then a D3x with a, say, 16 MP sensor, or they'll grab something which would be in the 1.1-1.3x range.
The D2H could use a megapixel upgrade as well, even though one guy claimed he gets better output from the D2H than from the EOS 1D Mark II (which isn't too believable, but who knows).
 
chuckles said:
A D2Xs already 12.4 MetalPixies and in 6Mpx crop mode has a frame rate of 8fps (5fps in full 12.4 Mpx). And it's a CMOS chip..... can't see too much of an excitable thing. Unless you've got a D2Hs which suddenly becomes a bit redundant. Actually, I think the D2Xs did that!
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Suppose it depends on how good the noise handling is on this chip. Although quite similar in spec to the D2Xs, its not necessarily a bad spec, and if they managed to really tweak the performance it could be a nice setup. Having said that, this chip could find its way into the D300, and something bigger and shinyer sitting in the D3.
 
Well, whatever comes out is a good thing if it drives down the price of a D2Xs...... :thumbs:
 
Slapo said:
The D2H could use a megapixel upgrade as well, even though one guy claimed he gets better output from the D2H than from the EOS 1D Mark II (which isn't too believable, but who knows).
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The D2H sensor is pretty amazing for colour rendition etc. Just a shame its 4mp and its noise handling isnt the best.
 
I dont know if it has anything to do with this at all, but for some reason, a lot of the D80 kits went onto clearance at currys yesterday, this usually means that it is being replaced, but i could possibly be barking up the wrong tree!!
 
There wont be a D200s the s signifies a merge update like the D2x to D2Xs.

It will be a D300 or something.
 
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