Thinking about trading my gear in

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D700
nikkor 24-70 2.8
nikkor 70-200 2.8
nikkor 50mm 1.4
sb900
sb600
pdk-1 kit (d700 batt grip)
2 extra batteries
d80
d80 bat grip

for cannon gear is it worth doing this far in because i want to be able to make use of the HD video.

what do you guys think??
 
i would have a long and hard think about it. thats a hell of a lot of good kit there!

what were you thinking? canon 5d mark 2?
 
5d2 is an amazing bit of kit !!!
I had one but swapped for Nikon. why you ask....I was doing some shots in really(really) bad lit conditions and 5d2 was struggling with it :( if I would not need a camera for those conditions again, I would not swap!

so depends what you shoot really....if portraits etc in good lit conditions and can make a good use from video why not to swap...but!!!
maybe it will be better for you to sell d700 and get D3s instead ?? saves you a lot of hassle in selling all the gear and buy a new one....
if you decide on selling let me know so I may buy some bits of ya :)
 
come to the dark side you know you want too. (sorry not very helpful)
 
You must be mad to even contemplate doing this to get video. Why not sell the D80 and grip and buy a secondhand D90. There is one on ebay for £530. Or even buy a video camera.
 
Ross2 said:
come to the dark side you know you want too. (sorry not very helpful)
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Funny, I thought Nikon was the dark side :p

Other than the D80/sb600 sounds like my equipment want list :p

As mentioned, if you want video, why not look at renting the Nikon video capable cameras (d90, D300s or D3s)? see if you even like video before thinking about selling up. Yes, Nikon doesn't currently have the same video capability of the Canon range, 720 vs 1080 + FPS but I would think twice about trading in.
 
thanks for the help guys :) i will try renting the d3s im after a cinematic camera so 24fps will do. i dont need the 30fps.

I will defo give it some long hard thought. Spent to much time and money getting the stuff i have now.
 
:thumbs:

And let me know how it works out, as the D3s is also on my shopping list :D

I've been watching a few of the videos on Vimeo tonight that have been made with the D3s and, apart from the operators technique it looks like a very capable camera :D
 
I thought of doing the opposite :) hmmm.....
 
One piece of advice for video that I picked up the other day... the D90 doesn't have an external mic input - which really limits you when it comes to outside filming as you can't stick a big furry mic on it.

The D300S or the D3S do have the input, so at a minimum I'd consider those two for video.
 
With the free grip offer on purchase of new D700 it's rumored a new model will be released within Months. Good chance it'll have video capability. Might be worth waiting. Having moved over from Canon specifically to own the D700 and being VERY happy with it. I'd stay with the Dark Side !!
 
Its been rumoured that a D700 replacement is on its way since the day the D700 was released :D
 
Excuse me for saying that it sounds like a bonkers move.
You have a lovely stills kit which enables you to develop the art of photography to the full, no equipment excuses here, and you want to trade it all in for the fad of DSLR based HD video.
I think you just like shopping! I know I do.
John
 
desantnik said:
One piece of advice for video that I picked up the other day... the D90 doesn't have an external mic input - which really limits you when it comes to outside filming as you can't stick a big furry mic on it.

The D300S or the D3S do have the input, so at a minimum I'd consider those two for video.
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yep i agree with this.
 
It does not make sense at all financially.

You would lose more trading in what you have and end up with an inferior camera (IHMO)
Your best bet as others have said is to add a Nikon with video capability or just buy a video camera. The loss you would take on your Nikon gear would be more than the cost of adding a video!
 
Or, you could pick up a 5DMk2, keep your kit, and get a Nikon lens to EOS mount adapter. :)

That's what I'll be doing if a D4 with 1080p @ 24, 25 & 50fps isn't here by the time I've got 4 grand spare.
 
I see that there is an adapter for nikon to canon, is there an adapter to use a canon lens on a Nikon?
I have just bought a nikon 300s and have good canon lenses
 
Either buy a dedicated video camera or the D3s.
 
An affordable video camera won't have the cinematic shallow DOF that I guess the OP wants.

There are advantages to having the mic(s) separated from the camera, and we've all seen a clapperboard.
 
And the D3s doesn't do 1080.
 
phototuition said:
Excuse me for saying that it sounds like a bonkers move.
You have a lovely stills kit which enables you to develop the art of photography to the full, no equipment excuses here, and you want to trade it all in for the fad of DSLR based HD video.
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Hardly a fad when major companies such as Lucas are using it for producing films, as it's cheaper, smaller and lighter so can easily be used in tight locations etc. 7D and 1D mk4 are currently preferred over the 5D mk2 as you get a higher res live output from the HDMI port to help with focussing (plus 60fps for slow motion).

However, surely this just needs a body upgrade rather than a full kit swap over.
 
Perhaps the 1D Mk4, but I've yet to see anybody prefer the 7D over the 5D Mk2 for serious video.
 
Kaouthia said:
Or, you could pick up a 5DMk2, keep your kit, and get a Nikon lens to EOS mount adapter. :)
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Sounds like a good move.

Oliver, you'll be manually focusing video anyway so you won't lose out by using the Nikon lenses on the 5DmkII.
As others have pointed out you will not get the same quality from a dedicated video camera because they generally use tiny sensors. The full frame 5DmkII will give you amazingly shallow DOF. There is now a lot of kit dedicated to the 5DII for video production so there are a lot of users and a lot of support out there.

The stills quality is awesome too, I wouldn't want to give that up for anything. You'll have pretty much the same high ISO performace as you have now but with better IQ (more detail).
 
I've just mentioned elsewhere that i think anyone who buys a DSLR just for the video capability is a bloody fool...especially so in your case considering the amount of kit you have already invested in...

I know vid quality from a DSLR can be good, but in most cases it won't be - most of us don't have the required training, either as videographers or as editors...
How many AVID editors are there out there? Anyone? Any good at it yet? It takes ages to get your head round the more capable editing programs - if you thought CS was fun, try AVID or Final-Cut Pro...lol
Those beautiful promotional videos showcasing these new cameras' capabilities are produced by videographers and editors with years of experience and with all the resources that the camera manufacturers have at their disposal...

Anyone who genuinely needs video buys a video camera...these DSLRs with Vid capability are primarily designed for amateurs who want better-than-iPhone vid clips for u-Tube or for journalists who have to produce clips for their news websites...
 
Arkady said:
I've just mentioned elsewhere that i think anyone who buys a DSLR just for the video capability is a bloody fool...especially so in your case considering the amount of kit you have already invested in...
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I think anybody who makes sweeping generalisations like this is a bloody fool. But everybody has their opinion. :)

Arkady said:
I know vid quality from a DSLR can be good, but in most cases it won't be
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So just give up before you've started and don't even try?

Arkady said:
Anyone who genuinely needs video buys a video camera...these DSLRs with Vid capability are primarily designed for amateurs who want better-than-iPhone vid clips for u-Tube or for journalists who have to produce clips for their news websites...
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lol. George Lucas and many other disagree. I shoot with Sony EX1, EX3 and Z7 cameras (all of which cost more than a D3s), but I use the D300s to supplement footage for some shots as the Sony cameras simply can't offer the range of focal lengths and apertures that I can get with a DSLR without spending more than the cost of a D300s to be able to attach Nikon lenses to them.
 
Kaouthia said:
I think anybody who makes sweeping generalisations like this is a bloody fool. But everybody has their opinion.
So just give up before you've started and don't even try?
lol...
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I work with videographers every working day of my life, so I do have some insight into this and of the technology involed...

yawn...bored now...
If I really wanted to debate video, I'd join a video forum...
 
Arkady said:
How many AVID editors are there out there? Anyone? Any good at it yet?
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Pah, inferior competitor ;)

Arkady said:
Anyone who genuinely needs video buys a video camera...these DSLRs with Vid capability are primarily designed for amateurs who want better-than-iPhone vid clips for u-Tube or for journalists who have to produce clips for their news websites...
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Recent episode of House, several films now in work using DSLR's,
http://www.cinema5d.com/news/?p=3216
 
Arkady said:
I work with videographers every working day of my life, so I do have some insight into this and of the technology involed...

yawn...bored now...
If I really wanted to debate video, I'd join a video forum...
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Ok, well, I've been one of those people you work with every day of your life, although I hope I never do, and also have worked with many other videographers.

It doesn't work for you, and that's fine, but that doesn't mean that it does not work for everybody.

And this is video in relation to DSLRs, so it is appropriate to this forum.
 
Arkady said:
I've just mentioned elsewhere that i think anyone who buys a DSLR just for the video capability is a bloody fool...especially so in your case considering the amount of kit you have already invested in...

I know vid quality from a DSLR can be good, but in most cases it won't be - most of us don't have the required training, either as videographers or as editors...
How many AVID editors are there out there? Anyone? Any good at it yet? It takes ages to get your head round the more capable editing programs - if you thought CS was fun, try AVID or Final-Cut Pro...lol
Those beautiful promotional videos showcasing these new cameras' capabilities are produced by videographers and editors with years of experience and with all the resources that the camera manufacturers have at their disposal...

Anyone who genuinely needs video buys a video camera...these DSLRs with Vid capability are primarily designed for amateurs who want better-than-iPhone vid clips for u-Tube or for journalists who have to produce clips for their news websites...
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In which case i'll start recommending people not buy DSLRs and photoshop if they want to get into photography. Stick with the cheap compact because it will take years before you get the required standard to produce works of photographic art...

People have to start somewhere, whether it be photography or videography. At least when the video camera is mounted onto the same body (and system) you already know well from shooting years of stills, which means it should be easier to get some reasonable results.

To the OP I would suggest just swapping the D80 for a D300s, or possibly a used D90, then sell that and the D700 when the "D800" comes out (no idea when that will be, but it'll be almost guarenteed it will have a video function in it).
 
You know, from this and the other thread I've actually come to the conclusion that quite the opposite to a mickey mouse "mobile phone video" type thing, actually its more akin to proper video stuff.... which is both a good thing and a bad thing.

Today had changed my opinion on the feature but also told me that its definitely not something I'd ever use :)

I'll stick to my Flip to put my dog on youtube with ;-)
 
JohnD76 said:
The OP has not specified which HD resolution is required, so 720p may well be fine.
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No, he hasn't, but I presumed that would be a big lure, otherwise why not simply sell the D700 & D80 and get a D3s? why switch systems completely? :)

If you're happy enough with 720 (and if most of your clients want the productions to end up on DVD anyway, it's fine), forget the D5000, forget the D90. They both have severe wobbly issues. The D300s does too, although not quite to the degree of the two mentioned above, it also allows contrast-sensitive AF while filming, and it allows you to plug in an external mic. The D3s suffers very little wobbly effects compared to the other three, offers full manual exposure control, and super low light shooting (probably the best low light shooting of any camera out there - HD-DSLR, digital video, film, or otherwise).
 
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