Things That Should be Confined to History

Space exploration/travel. As a species, we've managed to screw up this planet, now we're littering space in the hope that we can find a new planet (or more) which we'll inevitable mess up just as badly as we have this one.
 
Because it's an anachronism dating back to when wives were considered to be the property of the husband.
 
Nod said:
Because it's an anachronism dating back to when wives were considered to be the property of the husband.
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This

I was quite keen for Mrs F to take my surname when we got married (not because I considered her to be property). If I had my time again, I wouldn't have even suggested it.
 
Mrs WW kept her name, too much hassle involved in changing it.

Things I'd like to see drift away... apart from hunger, disease and want, racism etc... no particular order...

The BBC licence fee, people constantly fiddling with smartphones, riding a bike on pavements, cancel culture, people thinking Marxism is somehow cool, those trousers that hang half way down backsides, builders arse, false eyelashes, piercings. That'll do. :D

I agree with ties, they're a health and safety hazard.
 
woof woof said:
I agree with ties, they're a health and safety hazard.
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But, but, what about Colin Furze and his Safety Tie ?

Although, I suppose you could class Colin himself as a Health & Safety hazard, and the tie is the least of the problems...
 
minimaltoo said:
But, but, what about Colin Furze and his Safety Tie ?

Although, I suppose you could class Colin himself as a Health & Safety hazard, and the tie is the least of the problems...
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Me have no idea of what you speak.

When I used to fix stuff I was expected to wear a suit and tie and I did but they (the ordinary ones) are a faff and they are a H&S hazard. When I was promoted I never bothered other than when we had important customers visiting as no one hassled me about it anymore :D
 
(Ah sorry - I've spent too long on YouTube in lockdown - Colin makes dangerous things in an engaging way: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp68_FLety0O-n9QU6phsgw)

I did refuse a job offer when they said that wearing a suit, jacket, tie, pressed trousers, proper shoes, etc. was mandatory, even though I would never be seen by customers - I was 50/50 right up until they said that if I wanted to take my jacket off in summer, I had to get my manager's approval first, and it was only acceptable whilst sitting at my desk.

This was in the 90's, and so was weird then (even more so now)
 
minimaltoo said:
(Ah sorry - I've spent too long on YouTube in lockdown - Colin makes dangerous things in an engaging way: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp68_FLety0O-n9QU6phsgw)

I did refuse a job offer when they said that wearing a suit, jacket, tie, pressed trousers, proper shoes, etc. was mandatory, even though I would never be seen by customers - I was 50/50 right up until they said that if I wanted to take my jacket off in summer, I had to get my manager's approval first, and it was only acceptable whilst sitting at my desk.

This was in the 90's, and so was weird then (even more so now)
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The thing is it's still heavily pushed in schools isn't it, a uniform.
Glad our work is basically anything suitable goes.
 
Don't really see why the OP feels as he does.
no one forces him to wear a tie, it is optional. Might exclude him from a few jobs/places but that is still his choice. I happen to think a tie looks good, in the "right" situation.
Ties are not worn as often as they used to be, for various reasons

As for women taking the man's surname, they have always had that choice. Whilst I agree it does hark back to a different time. It doesn't mean it needs to be confined to history.
My daughter is getting married next year (should have been this year but covid has stopped that) She is taking her partner's surname because she wants to. I know this as we have had a discussion about it. Even though it will mean the end of my family surname.
 
munch said:
Don't really see why the OP feels as he does.
no one forces him to wear a tie, it is optional. Might exclude him from a few jobs/places but that is still his choice. I happen to think a tie looks good, in the "right" situation.
Ties are not worn as often as they used to be, for various reasons

As for women taking the man's surname, they have always had that choice. Whilst I agree it does hark back to a different time. It doesn't mean it needs to be confined to history.
My daughter is getting married next year (should have been this year but covid has stopped that) She is taking her partner's surname because she wants to. I know this as we have had a discussion about it. Even though it will mean the end of my family surname.
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I’ll explain. I literally cannot see the point of a tie.

Re taking the man’s name, again I just can’t see what purpose it serves. I actually quite like the naming custom used in some countries where everyone has a composite surname composed of the first part of the father’s surname and the first part of the mother’s surname.
For example. If your father’s surname was James-Smith, and your mother’s surname was Elliot-Jones, your surname would be James-Elliot. People then tend to go through life being known by the first part of their composite surname. For example Fernando Alonso Díaz is known as Fernando Alonso; Rafa Nadal Parera is know as Rafa Nadal and Penélope Cruz Sánchez is known as Penélope Cruz. Nobody changes their name when they get married!
 
woof woof said:
I agree with ties, they're a health and safety hazard.
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Have you not heard of tie pins or tucking your tie in your shirt if it is likely to get caught up in anything?
What I don't understand is people who insist on doing up their top button when not wearing a tie and same goes for people doing the top button up on polo shirts. It looks like your mum still dresses you in the morning. ;)
 
Ricardodaforce said:
People then tend to go through life being known by the first part of their composite surname. For example Fernando Alonso Díaz is known as Fernando Alonso; Rafa Nadal Parera is know as Rafa Nadal and Penélope Cruz Sánchez is known as Penélope Cruz. Nobody changes their name when they get married!
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Ah, so you think Spanish tradition should trump other western traditions. ;)

Maybe all girls should also be called Maria? :LOL:
 
nilagin said:
Have you not heard of tie pins or tucking your tie in your shirt if it is likely to get caught up in anything?
What I don't understand is people who insist on doing up their top button when not wearing a tie and same goes for people doing the top button up on polo shirts. It looks like your mum still dresses you in the morning. ;)
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Er, yes. I used to do those things.

Maybe you've never been employed or otherwise in a situation when a tie no matter how it's deployed could be a hazard. It is IMO just a form or formal clothing or fashion which is perhaps not really needed.

I believe they were originally a sort of bib to stop clothing being soiled or maybe also a means of keeping an open shirt closed or just a fashion fad? Whatever. I've never liked them, from the days of school uniforms and onwards through life. The last time I wore one was my wedding day.
 
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Yes, women taking their husband's surname on marriage is an anachronism, but it's beginning to die out now. In some cultures (China for example) it has never happened.
What I think is strange and often confusing is women changing their surname every time they get a new boyfriend which, with the typical woman who does this, is often.
 
woof woof said:
Maybe you've never been employed or otherwise in a situation when a tie no matter how it's deployed could be a hazard.
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I haven't, but if it is pinned down or tucked in, how can it pose a hazard?
 
ancient_mariner said:
Ah, so you think Spanish tradition should trump other western traditions. ;)

Maybe all girls should also be called Maria? :LOL:
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That's an idea. Would save confusion.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ojhtq51Ya8


I like Porn names. I'd never heard of them until they were mentioned and explained in a TV drama I watched. they said you take the name of your first pet and the street name where you were born or live... so my porn name would be Pricilla Lime.

That may not be actually relevant to this thread but I felt like sharing.
 
Ricardodaforce said:
Nope. I just explained a system I like. Nothing more.
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That's fair enough. On the other hand, have you guys forgiven us for that minor fracas in 1587? :coat:
 
robj20 said:
The thing is it's still heavily pushed in schools isn't it, a uniform.
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School uniforms were a social leveller, meant all kids wore the same clothes rather then the better off
being in designer wear and the poorer in cheap clothes so hopefully helped to prevent bullying.
Sadly for some kids it did mean the only decent clothes they had was the school uniform
 
Ricardodaforce said:
I’ll explain. I literally cannot see the point of a tie.

Re taking the man’s name, again I just can’t see what purpose it serves. I actually quite like the naming custom used in some countries where everyone has a composite surname composed of the first part of the father’s surname and the first part of the mother’s surname.
For example. If your father’s surname was James-Smith, and your mother’s surname was Elliot-Jones, your surname would be James-Elliot. People then tend to go through life being known by the first part of their composite surname. For example Fernando Alonso Díaz is known as Fernando Alonso; Rafa Nadal Parera is know as Rafa Nadal and Penélope Cruz Sánchez is known as Penélope Cruz. Nobody changes their name when they get married!
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Don't really see that as being much different if it's going to be the father's surname first.

As for a woman taking the husbands surname being seen as the husband owning the wife, my father never thought that of my mum, same goes for my grandparents.
Women today see it as being part of a new family unit, especially if they plan to have kids. If not then surely getting married is just as pointless.
 
nilagin said:
Don't really see that as being much different if it's going to be the father's surname first.
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It doesn’t have to be, though it usually is. The order is chosen when the birth is registered. Antonio Banderas surname is from his mother, not his father.

Going back to the point I was making though, using that system no one changes their name when getting married.
 
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Gremlin said:
School uniforms were a social leveller, meant all kids wore the same clothes rather then the better off
being in designer wear and the poorer in cheap clothes so hopefully helped to prevent bullying.
Sadly for some kids it did mean the only decent clothes they had was the school uniform
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If that were still the case schools would be having the huge profits they are on the uniforms. They'd also be much simpler like they used to be.
Mine was navy trousers, white shirt and a jumper with the logo on plus a tie.
Now you have all sorts all that needs to be purchased via the school.
 
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They'd also be much simpler like they used to be.
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All three secondary schools I went to in the 1960s had different blazers and ties. :(

I've often thought that there should be a single national school uniform, unisex, to be worn by every kid, no matter which school they attend. It could have an individual's identification number stenciled front and back... :naughty:
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
All three secondary schools I went to in the 1960s had different blazers and ties. :(

I've often thought that there should be a single national school uniform, unisex, to be worn by every kid, no matter which school they attend. It could have an individual's identification number stenciled front and back... :naughty:
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A barcode surely. One that can be read easily by scanners mounted... well, everywhere really. An ap would then warn people if they get too close to a teenager.

Oh, reminds me... there's a film called "Upgrade" on telly this week and it's well worth a look. Me and Mrs WW howled with laughter at it. It's about a technophobe guy who reluctantly has an IC fitted. WARNING. It contains violence.
 
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