Ten Years Of Blair...

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... not a joke. A serious post.

As I'm only 21 i've only ever really known a Blairite Britain - but for me, on reflection of ten years I feel he's done a good a job as anyone could do. There are policies i disapproved of over his premiership - namely top-up fees and the hypocrisy of Blair burning the ladder that he himself climbed up and also the doomed private involvement in our education system; PFI just doesn't work. Iraq is one thing I can't chastise him for... I believed in the war at the time on the intelligence that we were given - most of the country did, even the tories wanted the war. Hindsight is a great thing, and I think he's being battered for it unfairly in a way.

A great communicator and a good leader for the 'greatest nation on the planet' - Tony Blair

Will you miss him?
 
I can't say i'll miss him, but at the same time I wouldn't say i'd be happy to see Brown take over.

politics is all based on lies and statistics, they'll all give you a shafting and ask you to say thank you for it.
 
digitalfailure said:
politics is all based on lies and statistics, they'll all give you a shafting and ask you to say thank you for it.
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Cynical or what? :thumbs:

I could have written that but you beat me to it :D
 
Yeah, and no matter who you vote for The Government always gets in! :lol:
 
digitalfailure said:
I can't say i'll miss him, but at the same time I wouldn't say i'd be happy to see Brown take over.

politics is all based on lies and statistics, they'll all give you a shafting and ask you to say thank you for it.
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Sums it up very well for me too. It doesn't matter what colour their rosette is... scratch the surface and they're all the same underneath. The only thing that varies is the size of their ambition
 
Passing the baton from one fool to another imho.
 
chouglez said:
Passing the baton from one fool to another imho.
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I Total Agree.


I did think back to 97 as Blair ask and yes I'm worse of I get paid less and pay more tax. My company and private pension have taken a dive due to Brown taking 5 billion from them yes that £50 billion brown has stolen from pensions.


Why did it take Harold Wilson 2 days to resign and Richard Nixon 24 hours but Blair 7 weeks. OH yes the others did not have a state funded fair well tour.
 
Add to that the persecution (no other word for it) of the British motorist and you have yourself a state that welcomes foreign paupers and English chavs but deters the hard working honest folk.
 
completely agree with all the above.

they had a clip of him on tv the other night after the restart of the assembly in NI(that was his best achievement) where he stands there and says something like 'this isnt a time for soundbites.........<humble expression>....<open hands> But i feel the hand of destiny..on our shoulders..'
 
So we exchange a "likeable grinning muppet" for a grown up cabbage patch doll with less charisma than a potato :shrug:

... as has been sed stats politics and "untruths"
 
nooooooooo. please, noooooooooo.

Don't get me started. I haven't the time. nooooooooooooooo.





oh well.

blair brought banana-republic corruption to europe. that will be one of the long lasting memories of this fool and his cronies.

He ruled like a dictator. He didn't care about or listen to his backbenchers. He didn't even listen to his cabinet. And he certainly took no notice of the public. He ruled from his inner rectum, er, inner sanctum. His clique, his cronies. He surrounded himself with fools who tell him what he wants to hear, no matter how far removed from reality it may be. It sounds more like an old-style soviet.

He's created a huge bureaucracy - so many in this country are now in non-jobs. Whole government and quango departments are duplicated so as to provide employment in labour heartlands. So successful has this method of unemployment control been that we have had to bring in tens of thousands of eastern europeans to do the real work. There's blair, standing at Dover, holding the door open. Oblivious to the fact that his open door also lets in crooks and terrorists.

The nhs budget has tripled since he came to power. But where has it all gone? It pays for the ballooning middle management bureaucracy that is adept at creating paper. And the sharp end of the nhs is in ever deepening crisis.

The civil service, despite promises to reduce it, is now massively larger and even more inefficient. My daughter had the misfortune to work for the benefits agency recently. She was told to stop processing eight cases a day as the old hands were only managing two or three!! And this mentality is evident in the contractors used nowadays. I know of a chap who, only last month, gained a new IT contract earning 260 a day with an mod department. He chucked it in after just two days. He couldn't stand the boredom - it was a non-job, there was nothing for him to do.

The party with the greatest number of votes cast at the last general election in England was - the Conservatives. And say what you like about conservative scandals. At least when they have a scandal, someone resigns or is sacked. Just what does a Labour minister have to do to be sacked???

This corrupt government has ruled by deceit. The sooner Scotland gets its independence the better. There's only one way for Old/Nu/Corrupt Labour to go and that's down.


/rant off
 
get off the fence Blue...tell us what you really think :p
 
politics and religion :nono: ;)
 
I have to agree with all above , I've been voting for the last 30 years (if you don't vote then don't complain) and this has got to be the most self serving goverment I have experienced (and I didn't vote for them ).



It reminds me of the old saying...

How can you tell if a politician is lying



his / her lips move


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Well I quite like the guy. I'd have preferred it if he'd stayed and seen out this term in office and given the chance for someone other than Gordon Brown to come along. Although saying that, unfortunately most people tend to vote for personalities and not the policies of the party. Unlike the first poster, I spent my entire teens and early 20's under the Thatcher/Major era and do not want a return to Conservative rule. My parents lost their home after the spiraling interest rates of the early 1990's when they reached the 15% mark (10% more than they are now)

My school teachers were off on strike quite often in my early senior school days due to Kenneth Baker and the Thatcher policies of the time. I can see nothing in this new Tory group that makes me think anything will be any different if they get back into No 10 at the next election.

I think Tony Blair has done a good job and if everything had 'gone to plan' in Iraq, he'd still be in charge and not being hounded out of office by the media hacks. The trouble with this country is that the newspapers have way too much power when it comes to who governs the nation.
 
My favourite quote from all of yesterday's relentless dissection of 'ten years of Tony' was from the man himself....

"in 1997 the country's expectations of me and what I could achieve in 10 years were too high..." well words to that effect anyway.

Erm.....weren't they Mr Bliar's own words and promises that lots of people bought into that got him elected in 1997 in the first place :bonk:

So what he really meant when he said expectations were too high was....

"You didn't really think I was going to be able to do all those things I said did you?!" :thinking: :lol:

I thought the visible tear in Tony's eye during his speech at Sedgefield was a nice theatrical touch and as for Gordon Brown :gag:
 
It doesn't matter who becomes Prime Minister, they aren't gonna please all the people all the time.

My main bug bear has been the rapid decline of the NHS, especially as so much was promised. As an employee of the NHS for the last 10 years, my pay has increased, but much less than inflation, my tax has increased and the work I'm expected to do has increased, along with the number of patients I care for. The NHS is in crisis. Financially, it has never been so well off, but all the money goes to executives and managers and bureaucrats, leaving the wards cash strapped and short staffed.
Throw into this mess, unachievable Government guidelines and targets, tiny budgets, heavy workloads and minimal staffing, and hey presto - the recipe for disaster :clap:

If anyone saw the 'Undercover Midwife' program last week - that really is reality :eek:
 
JPS said:
I think Tony Blair has done a good job and if everything had 'gone to plan' in Iraq, he'd still be in charge and not being hounded out of office by the media hacks. The trouble with this country is that the newspapers have way too much power when it comes to who governs the nation.
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exactly - the media are honestly the ones with the control, as the public think what they write as the majority of the British public can't be bothered to look into themselves.

and yes he has made cock-ups - but can anyone really say that the tories are a better prospect. Cameron is a smug shallow posh b*****d who tries and fails to pull media stunts to proove his worth. Gordon Brown might not be the most charismatic of characters but put him in a debate on policy with Cameron and he'd trounce him.
 
"we're all doomed" Mr Mannering
 
I think we in Scotland have just got the perfect government, a minority one, if the UK as a whole had had that Blair would never have been allowed to send our soldiers to Iraq.
 
thats the trouble with politics, its all about opinions, and people rarely agree!
 
It's just a different face to lie, cheat and rob you the same as the last bloke did, jsut they make up different ways to do it.


Same S**t - Different Day!
 
we should use proportional representation at least it would be fairer representation of the way the country voted
 
hes a ****, he led the nation to a war built on lies, killing hundreds of soldiers in the process, hes financially crippled alot of students and put people in debt more so than before.


but you know you can forgive him because after all his replacement is going to be a hell of a lot worse, brown should if he keeps going the way he is lead the country to another recession....

students, this about it.. if we have 50% of students going to uni over the lower figure previously, thats more people with the same qualification which makes it worth less when applying for jobs, and thus a lower chance of getting a worthwhile job in the field of your degree.... im thick as pigs*** and i can understand that, the government dont seem to be able to...
 
Who's this Blair character you're all talking about? :shrug: :thinking:
 
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