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Tips please First time in street photography going to the Mill Road Winter Fair http://www.millroadwinterfair.org/ and need some tips on the beast way to take some photos I:E colour or B/W, Settings and close up or to take a discreat photo any help will be nice please. (y) :)
 
Be friendly and don't be too shy. If someone is doing something interesting they usually enjoy getting a photo taken
I often end up chatting to my targets and it's always fun. If you take a shot with a smile and be friendly you will get no bother I find
Often you have to capture a special moment with lots going on and busy backgrounds, that's when I find black and white helps
I've seen advice for shooting from the hip, and have even done the pretend to be taking a photo of the background thing. Now if I want to take someone's photo I generally do, sometimes get a strange look, more often end up having a blether
It's especially easy with street markets and the like. It's amazing how often people just assume I'm from the local paper. I must have that struggling working tog look haha
 
I am by no means a good street photographer - but I do occasionally like to shoot it. I dont like to do what Bruce suggests above because I like unstaged, raw street photos - but what Bruce suggests will work, you just wont have "Natural" photos if you ask as people will pose for it.

The other way (my way) is a bit more sneaky. It is by no means a definitive "guide" and I am only suggesting, what <<i>> do - you can do it any way you wish - its <<your>> photography, but it might throw you some ideas :)

First rule - dont photograph kids or point your camera anywhere near the young people. If you get caught, it could end up being a whole load of trouble - no matter how innocent your photographs might be. Theres nothing like an angry mob wanting blood over kiddy photos.

Take photos as if you were a tourist, then have the camera hanging around your neck, maybe a wired-remote trigger in your pocket. Have a nice wide lens (24mm or less), set focus to infinity, F stop around F11 so you're getting most if not everything in focus. Set lens to manual focus or auto-focus on all points. Shutterspeed of 200 is plenty.

Set ISO to auto as you dont want to be fiddling around with your camera. Have the camera strap tightened so its just below your chin. When you want to fire off some shots, just do it and look somewhere else - blend in as a tourist. When you genuinely want to get a photo, bring it up and shoot like you would normally, but you can get lots of natural photos just shooting as you walk around. Here are a few of mine just to give you an idea. Your keeper rate may be low, do not worry about it, out of a few hundred shots, I got 10 that I actually liked, most will need straightening as you cannot tell if your shots are level but it doesnt really matter. You will no doubt cut off heads/legs. Practice at home first. Some people shoot from the hip, Im not good at that and it may be that you're GREAT at that, so do a bit of googling of shooting-from-the-hip.

It is a great subject to photograph - markets/events (like the one you are going to visit) are a great way of blending in without being noticed. Just try not to shoot photos of kids - they do the craziest things and they are usually the best subjects - but for your own safety and the paranoia of the public, just try to avoid if you can. Good Luck and I look forward to seeing some threads of yours with your SP !

_MG_0391 by Carl Harrison, on Flickr

_MG_0325 by Carl Harrison, on Flickr

_MG_0207 by Carl Harrison, on Flickr

Fed up of shopping by Carl Harrison, on Flickr

Bridgnorth by Carl Harrison, on Flickr
 
Digitalrevtv have a good video of does and don't of street photography.

Cant get get the link right now sorry!
 
Some suggestions...

- Have a strong idea of what you want to photograph. Randomly taking pictures will get you some good shots, but you might not know why.
- Try and avoid shooting from the hip/neck. Without an eye to the viewfinder, you won't know what's good and what's not. See what the camera sees and not what you think it's seeing. Not many people see the world from your belly button height and even less see it from hip height. All your shots will have the same "looking up" composition. It's not a sneaky seedy thing to do, so why try and hide it?
- Don't chase your shots. Find a subject with no people in it, then have patience and wait for a scene to unfold in the way you want. Sit down somewhere with a coffee and watch the people go by. Frame the camera on an area. Get your metering right, then when something happens in that area, you're all set up. Less chance of any problems if people wander into your stationary space, rather than you following them (esp when coupled with hip shooting)

Perhaps spend 30 minutes doing each one of the things on this list, then compare your results to hip shooting, random shooting and "that guy with the mohawk that looked interesting, but now is just a portrait of a guy with a mohawk because that's all there is to the frame..."

That's my tuppence!
 

The key argument in street photography is the story telling.
 
I am by no means a good street photographer - but I do occasionally like to shoot it. I dont like to do what Bruce suggests above because I like unstaged, raw street photos - but what Bruce suggests will work, you just wont have "Natural" photos if you ask as people will pose for it.

The other way (my way) is a bit more sneaky. It is by no means a definitive "guide" and I am only suggesting, what <<i>> do - you can do it any way you wish - its <<your>> photography, but it might throw you some ideas :)

First rule - dont photograph kids or point your camera anywhere near the young people. If you get caught, it could end up being a whole load of trouble - no matter how innocent your photographs might be. Theres nothing like an angry mob wanting blood over kiddy photos.

Take photos as if you were a tourist, then have the camera hanging around your neck, maybe a wired-remote trigger in your pocket. Have a nice wide lens (24mm or less), set focus to infinity, F stop around F11 so you're getting most if not everything in focus. Set lens to manual focus or auto-focus on all points. Shutterspeed of 200 is plenty.

Set ISO to auto as you dont want to be fiddling around with your camera. Have the camera strap tightened so its just below your chin. When you want to fire off some shots, just do it and look somewhere else - blend in as a tourist. When you genuinely want to get a photo, bring it up and shoot like you would normally, but you can get lots of natural photos just shooting as you walk around. Here are a few of mine just to give you an idea. Your keeper rate may be low, do not worry about it, out of a few hundred shots, I got 10 that I actually liked, most will need straightening as you cannot tell if your shots are level but it doesnt really matter. You will no doubt cut off heads/legs. Practice at home first. Some people shoot from the hip, Im not good at that and it may be that you're GREAT at that, so do a bit of googling of shooting-from-the-hip.

It is a great subject to photograph - markets/events (like the one you are going to visit) are a great way of blending in without being noticed. Just try not to shoot photos of kids - they do the craziest things and they are usually the best subjects - but for your own safety and the paranoia of the public, just try to avoid if you can. Good Luck and I look forward to seeing some threads of yours with your SP !

_MG_0391 by Carl Harrison, on Flickr

_MG_0325 by Carl Harrison, on Flickr

_MG_0207 by Carl Harrison, on Flickr

Fed up of shopping by Carl Harrison, on Flickr

Bridgnorth by Carl Harrison, on Flickr
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I never meant to come across as asking them to pose. I take their photo then often end up chatting about it. I might take another posed shot if the subject is interesting in some way but my street photography is capture the moment as it is. I'm just not very shy about it
 
Tips please First time in street photography going to the Mill Road Winter Fair http://www.millroadwinterfair.org/ and need some tips on the beast way to take some photos I:E colour or B/W, Settings and close up or to take a discreat photo any help will be nice please. (y) :)

Glenn, to echo some of the comments above, personally, I wouldn't advocate trying to take shots by stealth.
Be open, use your camera as it has been designed to be used in looking through the viewfinder, compose your images rather than leaving it to chance and having to correct in post.
Sit a while, watch people go by and just observe what is happening. Have your camera at the ready, your settings dialled in. I would suggest aperture priority, give yourself leeway, say around f8 or thereabouts for a generous dof.
As someone mentioned above, try to tell a story with your images, (not always possible) granted.
As for colour or B&W, again my personal choice would be to shoot in raw, and if I thought it warranted it, convert my images in post to mono.
 
I think the whole "hip shooting" thing sort of reinforces the notion that there is something inherently "wrong" with taking pictures of strangers on the street - tried it once myself a couple of years ago but immediately decided that it was not a way to capture images - i sometimes look at some of these images to remind myself what a "cop out" this type of photography is
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A lot of people really don't like being photographed though. Look at the furore over Google Glass. From angst to bar fights.

Has anyone ever had a remark when shooting people at eye level, or otherwise?
 
There are a lot of people claiming benefits when they are working on the side,there are a lot of people who are committing adultery,there are a lot of people who have warrants out for their arrest, there are even more people who think it is illegal for you to take their photo without their permission.Good luck! :police:
 
A lot of people really don't like being photographed though. Look at the furore over Google Glass. From angst to bar fights.
Has anyone ever had a remark when shooting people at eye level, or otherwise?

No one has ever come up to me to ask what I'm doing or challenge me. I've had more curious/chatty/nosy people coming up to me when doing landscape and time lapse stuff than I've ever had doing street work.

I have been spotted at times though. If there's eye contact, I try a smile. Those that smile back get a mouthed "thankyou", those that don't usually just walk away. As my wife says - I guess it's the way my face hangs :) Another useful tip is that if they do spot you, and you don't feel confident with contact, look at a point about ten feet over their head (or to their left/right). They will assume that you're taking a picture of something else and will more than likely carry on going about their day. I've also had less attention now I'm carrying the X-T1 than I did with the Canon DSLR.

Appearing suspicious by hiding your intentions with quick snaps, followed by hurrying away furtively, or doing blatantly controversial stuff (pointing your 70-200 at someones little princess) are the activities that cause fear and subsequent reprisals from Joe P.
 
I'm thinking of giving Street Photography a go and was going to do it in London one weekend. Can I just confirm what the rules are about putting photos online of people? I have a blog and I am not making money from any of my photos, so would I still need to ask for permission? I will try and talk to people, but, it might not always feel possible.
 
I'm thinking of giving Street Photography a go and was going to do it in London one weekend. Can I just confirm what the rules are about putting photos online of people? I have a blog and I am not making money from any of my photos, so would I still need to ask for permission? I will try and talk to people, but, it might not always feel possible.
No problem as long as you are not using the photos commercially (which you are not). Getting permission from everyone in every shot would be pretty much an impossibility unless you were only doing street portraits (as opposed to street photography)
 
No problem as long as you are not using the photos commercially (which you are not). Getting permission from everyone in every shot would be pretty much an impossibility unless you were only doing street portraits (as opposed to street photography)

Awesome, thanks for the info. :-).
 
I would agree with most of the things people have said above.

Most of all I would suggest to be relaxed and enjoy it - no rush, just take your time. Sometimes I may get a shot or two on one outing, other times I'll shoot a roll or more (yep, I shot film ). Don't feel disappointed if nothing 'jumps out'.
 
There are a lot of people claiming benefits when they are working on the side,there are a lot of people who are committing adultery,there are a lot of people who have warrants out for their arrest, there are even more people who think it is illegal for you to take their photo without their permission
That's what the Daily Mail would like use to believe.

Many of the subjects of my street shots apologise to me thinking they are getting in the way on my intended subject. Yes sometimes you do have to get that close.
 
That's what the Daily Mail would like use to believe.

Many of the subjects of my street shots apologise to me thinking they are getting in the way on my intended subject. Yes sometimes you do have to get that close.

All these examples of people who don't want to be photographed forget the fact that taking a photo of someone does not in any way "identify" them as all you are doing is recording what is available to the naked eye and is almost certainly also recorded on countless cctv systems.

If all photos had a way of "tagging" each person with their full name and address (including date of birth) then there would be more cause for concern.
 
I feel that a smaller camera (not DSLR) helps a lot. Be friendly and smile if spotted and perhaps even show them your shot of the subject. I don't like sneaky shots. If you are worried of being spotted, use a slightly longer lens (50-80mm) but it won't have the same feel as a 24/30mm up close in the action. Good luck!
 
I am by no means a good street photographer - but I do occasionally like to shoot it. I dont like to do what Bruce suggests above because I like unstaged, raw street photos - but what Bruce suggests will work, you just wont have "Natural" photos if you ask as people will pose for it.

The other way (my way) is a bit more sneaky. It is by no means a definitive "guide" and I am only suggesting, what <<i>> do - you can do it any way you wish - its <<your>> photography, but it might throw you some ideas :)

First rule - dont photograph kids or point your camera anywhere near the young people. If you get caught, it could end up being a whole load of trouble - no matter how innocent your photographs might be. Theres nothing like an angry mob wanting blood over kiddy photos.

Take photos as if you were a tourist, then have the camera hanging around your neck, maybe a wired-remote trigger in your pocket. Have a nice wide lens (24mm or less), set focus to infinity, F stop around F11 so you're getting most if not everything in focus. Set lens to manual focus or auto-focus on all points. Shutterspeed of 200 is plenty.

Set ISO to auto as you dont want to be fiddling around with your camera. Have the camera strap tightened so its just below your chin. When you want to fire off some shots, just do it and look somewhere else - blend in as a tourist. When you genuinely want to get a photo, bring it up and shoot like you would normally, but you can get lots of natural photos just shooting as you walk around. Here are a few of mine just to give you an idea. Your keeper rate may be low, do not worry about it, out of a few hundred shots, I got 10 that I actually liked, most will need straightening as you cannot tell if your shots are level but it doesnt really matter. You will no doubt cut off heads/legs. Practice at home first. Some people shoot from the hip, Im not good at that and it may be that you're GREAT at that, so do a bit of googling of shooting-from-the-hip.

It is a great subject to photograph - markets/events (like the one you are going to visit) are a great way of blending in without being noticed. Just try not to shoot photos of kids - they do the craziest things and they are usually the best subjects - but for your own safety and the paranoia of the public, just try to avoid if you can. Good Luck and I look forward to seeing some threads of yours with your SP !

_MG_0391 by Carl Harrison, on Flickr

_MG_0325 by Carl Harrison, on Flickr

_MG_0207 by Carl Harrison, on Flickr

Fed up of shopping by Carl Harrison, on Flickr

Bridgnorth by Carl Harrison, on Flickr
Hi,
its my first messenge here, i find in your text some answer i as looking for. I'm still not diced what kind of pictures i like to do, but i enjoy alots street pictures. Just need to ask! if we use a camera under the neck, how we control the settings?! i was thinking we use in automatic when shot people and we dont want to be catch t ( im to shy to talk and smile to strangers )
Thanks
 
Hi,
its my first messenge here, i find in your text some answer i as looking for. I'm still not diced what kind of pictures i like to do, but i enjoy alots street pictures. Just need to ask! if we use a camera under the neck, how we control the settings?! i was thinking we use in automatic when shot people and we dont want to be catch t ( im to shy to talk and smile to strangers )
Thanks
F6-F8 will make it nice and sharp and grab most of the scene, never worry about noisy street photos so AutoISO,250th of a sec should do it
 
Tomorow i gonna put in pratice ;) than i post here the pic ;)
Thanks ;) carlh
Expect lots of failed shots, missing heads, not straightened horizons. As much as it will be inconspicuous, you will get a lot of "misses". Find a bench opposite some large billboard if possible and do some shots as well. When walking , when you want to take a shot, stop, then fire off a few images - less errors if you stop walking. If you have a wired shutter, put it in your pocket and use that. I look forward to seeing what you get!
 
I've occasionally done this (70-200mm lens) and usually around f/6.3. Many different methods as can be seen in the above posts. After the first nervous moments I get into it and nearly always convert them to B&W.

Best set I did was just photographing people on their mobile phones and I think it's because I decided on a theme. Other sets could be eating, walking into/out of a shop, buying at a market.
 
i buy a remote cable control to get more easy . i buy a Mcoplus MC DC2. so i can hide in my pocket and is more easy to shot.... :) im ready for accion:)
 
I am by no means a good street photographer - but I do occasionally like to shoot it. I dont like to do what Bruce suggests above because I like unstaged, raw street photos - but what Bruce suggests will work, you just wont have "Natural" photos if you ask as people will pose for it.

The other way (my way) is a bit more sneaky. It is by no means a definitive "guide" and I am only suggesting, what <<i>> do - you can do it any way you wish - its <<your>> photography, but it might throw you some ideas :)

First rule - dont photograph kids or point your camera anywhere near the young people. If you get caught, it could end up being a whole load of trouble - no matter how innocent your photographs might be. Theres nothing like an angry mob wanting blood over kiddy photos.

Take photos as if you were a tourist, then have the camera hanging around your neck, maybe a wired-remote trigger in your pocket. Have a nice wide lens (24mm or less), set focus to infinity, F stop around F11 so you're getting most if not everything in focus. Set lens to manual focus or auto-focus on all points. Shutterspeed of 200 is plenty.

Set ISO to auto as you dont want to be fiddling around with your camera. Have the camera strap tightened so its just below your chin. When you want to fire off some shots, just do it and look somewhere else - blend in as a tourist. When you genuinely want to get a photo, bring it up and shoot like you would normally, but you can get lots of natural photos just shooting as you walk around. Here are a few of mine just to give you an idea. Your keeper rate may be low, do not worry about it, out of a few hundred shots, I got 10 that I actually liked, most will need straightening as you cannot tell if your shots are level but it doesnt really matter. You will no doubt cut off heads/legs. Practice at home first. Some people shoot from the hip, Im not good at that and it may be that you're GREAT at that, so do a bit of googling of shooting-from-the-hip.

It is a great subject to photograph - markets/events (like the one you are going to visit) are a great way of blending in without being noticed. Just try not to shoot photos of kids - they do the craziest things and they are usually the best subjects - but for your own safety and the paranoia of the public, just try to avoid if you can. Good Luck and I look forward to seeing some threads of yours with your SP !

Just a question, as I may have pictured this wrong in my head, but having a camera just below your chin will look a bit odd wont it??

where are your photos taken by the way?
 
Just a question, as I may have pictured this wrong in my head, but having a camera just below your chin will look a bit odd wont it??

where are your photos taken by the way?
Not just below the chin, but on the chest. My SP stuff has been mostly Brignorth, Shrops, though I would love to do a day in Birmingham
 
IMHO a lot of "street" photography is simply bad pictures of people who you don't know. Pictures that have no meaning or attractive qualities.

The best street pictures I've seen tend to be extremely well thought out compositions which are multi-layered and very well timed. Or they may be dramatic, beautifully composed light & shadow with maybe only one person in them. Or they will be strangely humerous, catching an improbable set of simultaneous events.

Just taking pictures of randome people who you don't know is rather pointless. You need to put lots of thought, effort and time into it.

National Geographic photographer Jim Richardson: “If you want to be a better photographer, stand in front of more interesting stuff.”
 
IMHO a lot of "street" photography is simply bad pictures of people who you don't know. Pictures that have no meaning or attractive qualities.

The best street pictures I've seen tend to be extremely well thought out compositions which are multi-layered and very well timed. Or they may be dramatic, beautifully composed light & shadow with maybe only one person in them. Or they will be strangely humerous, catching an improbable set of simultaneous events.

Just taking pictures of randome people who you don't know is rather pointless. You need to put lots of thought, effort and time into it.

National Geographic photographer Jim Richardson: “If you want to be a better photographer, stand in front of more interesting stuff.”
Im new on this, and i "think" street pictures is what i like and yesterday was my first time i go out to make it! I see i have more pleasure taking pic to individual situation or people than random and more easy for me cos i was using my 50/300.
 
Hi. So this was my first time i go out to make street pictures only!
Was not easy! I dont have experience and im to shy! First i start shot discreat, camera my belly but i fell very difficults to set camera!!!! Than i change camera to automatic mode... Worse!!!! So i dicide to change from 18/55 to 50/300. And i make this ones...
But im not so happy about results!!! Next time would be better. Just want to share the results here cos i follow the advice from u guys to improve
 

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I will sudgest you shoot in RAW format.This way you have both options : color and b&w .You can experiment in postprocessing.
If you use jpeg and put b and w after that you cant go back to color
 
I will sudgest you shoot in RAW format.This way you have both options : color and b&w .You can experiment in postprocessing.
If you use jpeg and put b and w after that you cant go back to color

I think moreorless everyone knows you should shoot in RAW format ;)
 
Hi. So this was my first time i go out to make street pictures only!
Was not easy! I dont have experience and im to shy! First i start shot discreat, camera my belly but i fell very difficults to set camera!!!! Than i change camera to automatic mode... Worse!!!! So i dicide to change from 18/55 to 50/300. And i make this ones...
But im not so happy about results!!! Next time would be better. Just want to share the results here cos i follow the advice from u guys to improve

I like your shots, I went out for the first time to shoot street today and was too shy to even take one shot with any people! Keep at it, I say!
 
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