stolen nikon d3 on ebay!!!!!!

Have you reported it to the police?
 
Good

It will be sad if the seller had bought it in good faith as they will lose it. If they handle these stolen goods then hopefully it will get them some "klink time"

Also it will be great if it goes back to the original owner IF they were uninsured.

Hate thieves and more so when they steal peoples' "tools of the trade"

Well spotted OP!

H
 
graphilly said:
How did you find out it was stolen?
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It's in the first post!

"i asked for some photos and done a search on the serial number to find it had been stolen on the 2012-04-06."


I would imagine someone posted the info up after they had their very expensive camera stolen.
 
TCR4x4 said:
It's in the first post!

"i asked for some photos and done a search on the serial number to find it had been stolen on the 2012-04-06."


I would imagine someone posted the info up after they had their very expensive camera stolen.
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The post below yours was more the info I was after.
 
Fake bid time? Surely? Just in case some poor sod does end up buying it only for it to get taken from them by the police and them be out of pocket.
 
I am just looking at this and wondering if this would be a good way for a bidder to try and prevent further bids from the community by registering it as stolen and then posting on forums.

Anyone can register any camera as stolen on stolencamerafinder?
 
graphilly said:
I am just looking at this and wondering if this would be a good way for a bidder to try and prevent further bids from the community by registering it as stolen and then posting on forums.

Anyone can register any camera as stolen on stolencamerafinder?
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Yeah, that's pretty clever. Register a camera as stolen and then buy that camera you just registered as stolen.

I cannot see a single hole in that plan.
 
graphilly said:
I am just looking at this and wondering if this would be a good way for a bidder to try and prevent further bids from the community by registering it as stolen and then posting on forums.

Anyone can register any camera as stolen on stolencamerafinder?
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The serial relates to a camera that was registered as stolen back in April last year
 
say I bought that camera last year, from what I thought was a legit deal, and was selling it now to fund a d800 purchase, and then out of the blue you come in and report it and the police take it off me (not giving a hoot that I paid £2000 for it just a year ago)

how does that work?
that's just as much stealing from me as it is stealing from the original purchaser- does the thief have to refund me while the camera goes back to the original purchaser?
 
mrjames said:
say I bought that camera last year, from what I thought was a legit deal, and was selling it now to fund a d800 purchase, and then out of the blue you come in and report it and the police take it off me (not giving a hoot that I paid £2000 for it just a year ago)

how does that work?
that's just as much stealing from me as it is stealing from the original purchaser- does the thief have to refund me while the camera goes back to the original purchaser?
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Sorry but that's just tough. Buyer beware!
 
Yep, I'm afraid it's the harsh truth. My grandma got caught out many many years ago (before the days of police databases etc) by buying a car that turned out to be stolen. When it all came to light the car was returned to its original owner, she was left with no money and no car to show for it!
 
mrjames said:
say I bought that camera last year, from what I thought was a legit deal, and was selling it now to fund a d800 purchase, and then out of the blue you come in and report it and the police take it off me (not giving a hoot that I paid £2000 for it just a year ago)

how does that work?
that's just as much stealing from me as it is stealing from the original purchaser- does the thief have to refund me while the camera goes back to the original purchaser?
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The person who sold it to you owes you the money as the item wasn't his to sell.

It's not stealing from you as it was never rightfully yours.


Steve.
 
Would it be an idea to have a lost/stolen section on here? (unless i`ve missed it)
 
Strange that this is still up on ebay. I'll report it stolen to them. Even if they've had the op's report, another won't matter. And I'll give them a link to this thread.
 
mrjames said:
say I bought that camera last year, from what I thought was a legit deal, and was selling it now to fund a d800 purchase, and then out of the blue you come in and report it and the police take it off me (not giving a hoot that I paid £2000 for it just a year ago)

how does that work?
that's just as much stealing from me as it is stealing from the original purchaser- does the thief have to refund me while the camera goes back to the original purchaser?
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No it isnt stealing from you, as others have said,it was never yours to own or sell in the first place, in law it is unfortunately tough luck on your part.
 
mrjames said:
say I bought that camera last year, from what I thought was a legit deal, and was selling it now to fund a d800 purchase, and then out of the blue you come in and report it and the police take it off me (not giving a hoot that I paid £2000 for it just a year ago)

how does that work?
that's just as much stealing from me as it is stealing from the original purchaser- does the thief have to refund me while the camera goes back to the original purchaser?
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The fact you paid for stolen goods is irrelevant, the person you bought it off didn't legally own it, so you can't legally own it. You could even be arrested for handling stolen goods.
 
London Headshots said:
Yeah, that's pretty clever. Register a camera as stolen and then buy that camera you just registered as stolen.

I cannot see a single hole in that plan.
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I'm not sure if my sarcasm detector just shot off the scale here or not :)

What is the scenario for having a stolen camera, registered on the database, removed from the database once it turns up again? The original poster requests for it to be removed?

Edit: He just has to login and delete it himself.

Bidder registers it as stolen on db using unique IP address email etc.

Bidder buys camera at reduced bid because no-one else is bidding.

Bidder requests for camera to be removed from db as it has been recovered, using the same unique IP address and email etc.

It's not foolproof but then criminals aren't always that clever, they sometimes get caught.

Keith W said:
The serial relates to a camera that was registered as stolen back in April last year
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There is nothing stopping me from going on to the site today, registering a camera as stolen on 6th April last year, is there?

Edit:I've just registered a Canon 5600D with this serial number, 0912A36789, today. Date stolen 1st July 2012. It appears that if I log-in I can delete it from the database myself.

The site doesn't even check for valid data and they require no email confirmation.
 
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PSILVERMAN said:
Sorry but that's just tough. Buyer beware!
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Absolutely.... Stolen is stolen.

A good few years ago a friend of mine got a great deal on Peugeot 206GTI

Turned out to have been stolen with hooky number plates.

Was stopped by the Police and car taken off him and he lost the £5K he had paid for it. No car no refund. Seller got 9 months.

My friend was a Police Officer.... should have known better

You can only keep the stolen goods IF the original owner or insurance company offer to sell it to you (or in other words you pay twice. In my friend's case the insurance company had replaced the car for its client but did offer said car to my friend...... for £6.2K.

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mrjames said:
say I bought that camera last year, from what I thought was a legit deal, and was selling it now to fund a d800 purchase, and then out of the blue you come in and report it and the police take it off me (not giving a hoot that I paid £2000 for it just a year ago)

how does that work?
that's just as much stealing from me as it is stealing from the original purchaser- does the thief have to refund me while the camera goes back to the original purchaser?
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If you got to keep the stolen goods (which no doubt you paid a lot less than you should have) then how would that discourage people from knowingly buying stolen goods??

Also, how is it fair to the rightful owner that you get to keep their property??
 
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Davec223 said:
No it isnt stealing from you, as others have said,it was never yours to own or sell in the first place, in law it is unfortunately tough luck on your part.
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You would however be entitled to claim from whoever you bought it from, assuming you can find them and they have money.

You also might be protected if you bought via a credit card.
 
graphilly said:
I'm not sure if my sarcasm detector just shot off the scale here or not :)

What is the scenario for having a stolen camera, registered on the database, removed from the database once it turns up again? The original poster requests for it to be removed?

Edit: He just has to login and delete it himself.

Bidder registers it as stolen on db using unique IP address email etc.

Bidder buys camera at reduced bid because no-one else is bidding.

Bidder requests for camera to be removed from db as it has been recovered, using the same unique IP address and email etc.

It's not foolproof but then criminals aren't always that clever, they sometimes get caught.



There is nothing stopping me from going on to the site today, registering a camera as stolen on 6th April last year, is there?

Edit:I've just registered a Canon 5600D with this serial number, 0912A36789, today. Date stolen 1st July 2012. It appears that if I log-in I can delete it from the database myself.

The site doesn't even check for valid data and they require no email confirmation.
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It should really require a crime number to ensure it's legit (well at least reported to police)
 
KC Leblanc said:
You would however be entitled to claim from whoever you bought it from, assuming you can find them and they have money.

You also might be protected if you bought via a credit card.
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And the chances of claiming from the criminal are very slim and if you do find him and the court agree it will probably be at 50p a week or something stupid.

As for claiming off your credit card company, again very slim as if you have brought the camera from the criminal, he won't be accepting credit cards, it will be pound notes only.

So although what you say is correct, in reality nierer is really going to help you.
 
Davec223 said:
And the chances of claiming from the criminal are very slim and if you do find him and the court agree it will probably be at 50p a week or something stupid.

As for claiming off your credit card company, again very slim as if you have brought the camera from the criminal, he won't be accepting credit cards, it will be pound notes only.

So although what you say is correct, in reality nierer is really going to help you.
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If bought thruogh ebay using PayPal, your payment could be made by credit card if that is what is linked to your PayPal account.
 
PaulF said:
If bought thruogh ebay using PayPal, your payment could be made by credit card if that is what is linked to your PayPal account.
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Ok, don't know about PayPal never have used it

Edit, I'm not sure that credit card companies would be so helpful in this situation as I would think, but am not totally sure, you are paying a third party to pay for the goods, so in fact possibly couldn't claim it back.
 
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I wouldn't rely on Paypal to much, they've screwed me over a couple of times.
 
Davec223 said:
Ok, don't know about PayPal never have used it

Edit, I'm not sure that credit card companies would be so helpful in this situation as I would think, but am not totally sure, you are paying a third party to pay for the goods, so in fact possibly couldn't claim it back.
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Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act - for when the value is over £100.
Applies to Debit cards too, iirc.
 
The chances are it will end up going back to the original owners insurance company if they had it insured and they've already been paid out for it. Every now and again the insurance company will send the recovered items to auction to recover whatever money they can. That's one of the main reasons I don't buy any high value second hand items off ebay. It's more of a lottery than most places. I've bought and sold a few things off this and another forum as it's far less likely you will end up with a stolen item IMO.
 
Nice spot! Good to see you have your eyes open, well done!
 
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