Spotify - Now FREE for tablet/mobile users

I pay, can you please explain what's free? Does it not have adverts at all now?

I thought it was always free, you just pay to remove adverts between tracks.

Ta
 
I pay, can you please explain what's free? Does it not have adverts at all now?

I thought it was always free, you just pay to remove adverts between tracks.

Ta
To get it on mobile or tablet you always had to pay for the premium sub. Now it's free, albeit ad supported (2 audio ads every 5 tracks).
 
I have a rather ambivalent attitude to Spotify. It's microstock for music.
 
The labels are part of the problem.

David Byrne wrote a piece in the Guardian about Spotify in October that puts it rather more eloquently and authoritatively than I could.

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/oct/11/david-byrne-internet-content-world

Headline notes

David Byrne said:
The amounts these services pay per stream is miniscule – their idea being that if enough people use the service those tiny grains of sand will pile up. Domination and ubiquity are therefore to be encouraged. We should readjust our values because in the web-based world we are told that monopoly is good for us. The major record labels usually siphon off most of this income, and then they dribble about 15-20% of what's left down to their artists. Indie labels are often a lot fairer – sometimes sharing the income 50/50. Damon Krukowski (Galaxie 500, Damon & Naomi) has published abysmal data on payouts from Pandora and Spotify for his song "Tugboat" and Lowery even wrote a piece entitled "My Song Got Played on Pandora 1 Million Times and All I Got Was $16.89, Less Than What I Make from a Single T-shirt Sale!" For a band of four people that makes a 15% royalty from Spotify streams, it would take 236,549,020 streams for each person to earn a minimum wage of $15,080 (£9,435) a year. For perspective, Daft Punk's song of the summer, "Get Lucky", reached 104,760,000 Spotify streams by the end of August: the two Daft Punk guys stand to make somewhere around $13,000 each. Not bad, but remember this is just one song from a lengthy recording that took a lot of time and money to develop. That won't pay their bills if it's their principal source of income. And what happens to the bands who don't have massive international summer hits?

David Byrne said:
Musicians are increasingly suspicious of the money and equity changing hands between these services and record labels – both money and equity has been exchanged based on content and assets that artists produced but seem to have no say over. Spotify gave $500m in advances to major labels in the US for the right to license their catalogues. That was an "advance" against income – so theoretically it's not the labels' money to pocket. Another chunk of change is soon to follow. The labels also got equity; so they are now partners and shareholders in Spotify, which is valued at around $3bn. That income from equity, when and if the service goes public, does not have to be shared with the artists. It seems obvious that some people are making a lot of money on this deal, while the artists have been left with meagre scraps.
 
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Maybe not quite the same as Spotify, but 8track has text only ads on the free version for Android.
 
With the free mobile version you can't store offline and you can only play 'shuffle'.
 
Mine also plays plays in order but the button is called 'shuffle play'
 
Bit of a controversial point, but I subscribe to the premium version as I love having access to my playlists anywhere... The cut the labels get might be very small but it's better than nothing. How many people, me included, have stopped downloading music for absolutely nothing?

I would never pay full price for a digitally download able album as they are the same price as buying a cd... How does that work?
 
I would never pay full price for a digitally download able album as they are the same price as buying a cd... How does that work?

digital downloads are usually quite a bit cheaper than cd's in my experience
 
I pay for the premium version for my daughter. Gone are the days of illegal downloads and album purchases. Now it's value for money with Spotify.
 
digital downloads are usually quite a bit cheaper than cd's in my experience

You more than likely have more knowledge and sources than I know of, but from a quick look the new Robbie Williams album can be bought on cd for £8.15 from play.com or downloaded digitally from Amazon for £8.49 :shrug:
 
Nor really a fair comparison.

That is the cheapest available on play.com (which is a 3rd party marketplace these days). ScreamingCD, who are selling that at £8.15 are shipping from Canada.

It's not at all clear whether they are including VAT or any applicable duty in their price. On ScreamingCD's own web site, they have this reassuring message on Customs duties

http://www.screamingcd.com/CustServiceDeliveryCustoms.asp

Customs
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COMING SOON

:suspect:

Most shops on play.com are selling it for considerably more.

If you compare like with like on Amazon, with Amazon supplying, it's £8.49 for download and £10.00 for the CD.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Swings-Both-Ways-Robbie-Williams/dp/B00F2GIPBI/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1387109056&sr=1-1&keywords=robbie williams swings both ways
 
Cd's ...what are they ,mobile phone/ipod and bluetooth will be the death of them . I've been a premium spotify user the the last couple of yrs and it suits my needs 100% ....not bothered about the latest albums .
 
Nor really a fair comparison.

That is the cheapest available on play.com (which is a 3rd party marketplace these days). ScreamingCD, who are selling that at £8.15 are shipping from Canada.

It's not at all clear whether they are including VAT or any applicable duty in their price. On ScreamingCD's own web site, they have this reassuring message on Customs duties

http://www.screamingcd.com/CustServiceDeliveryCustoms.asp



:suspect:

Most shops on play.com are selling it for considerably more.

If you compare like with like on Amazon, with Amazon supplying, it's £8.49 for download and £10.00 for the CD.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Swings-Both-Ways-Robbie-Williams/dp/B00F2GIPBI/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1387109056&sr=1-1&keywords=robbie williams swings both ways
Fair enough, but I still don't think a £1.50 discount is enough difference between a physical object and a pile of data.

I still would never buy another cd, I've already got enough boxes of the things that never get listened to any more. Streaming services just suit my style of listening.... I agree totally that more money should go to the artists though
 
But then look at adobe for example, just a few quid difference in boxed vs download.

Physical costs may drop but bandwidth and hosting costs.

Plus we can't have the music industry fat cats losing any money..
 
When Adobe were still selling boxes, it was actually more expensive to download as you were/are paying a higher rate of Irish VAT on top of the same ex-VAT price
 
There was the matter that their retailers would have been mighty cheesed off with Adobe selling either below the SRP.
 
I've only ever paid for one download , I'm still one of the old fashioned types who thinks buying a physical product from a shop keeps people in a job, manufacture, distribution, printing, wholesale,retail

I'd sooner buy the CD and throw it away than pay the same price or close to it for a download

If the shareholders had their way the movie, music and book industry would be held in one building worldwide with one guy to press reset if it stopped working
 
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