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Okayy tomorrow i'm going to a horse show(jumping) but its indoors and i've never shot indoors, It's really bright

Heres a picture

SNEC_indoor_1.jpg


Only one i could find lol

So would i still put iso 200/400? shutter speed 400? what about aputure? etcc

I'm still learning guys and i've had some good help on here thankss :D x
 
Bright is good.. What lens have you got.. esp aputure choices?
 
That wouldn't happen to be the SNEC would it at Edinburgh?
 
Tamron 55-200mm f/4-f.6 ld macroo :]
and i got canon 35-55 mm with my camera :D

xx
 
Hi,

Its hard to tell people what settings to use unless you are there and can actually meter with the camera/light meter....

But my recommendations would be as follows.

*edit* What you are about to read is very confusing.... *edit*

Use Shutter Priority mode. Then it is just a matter of seeing which settings work best. I tend to use the ISO as a bargaining chip...get the shutter speed just right to freeze the action then the aperture right to isolate the horse from the background then see which ISO will give you a correct exposure....depending on what camera you are using I would recommend staying below ISO 800. I have never shot horses but I would suspect a aperture of around 5.6 would be ok. This is quite hard to help with though as it really depends on a lot of variables such as distance to subject/focal length/distance from subject to background.

I'm probably confusing you as I have confused myself, I'm not great at typing advice.

Its all about having a play around to see whats best....try and keep the ISO as low as possible and you can also use the shutter speed and aperture as bargaining chips

If you would like me to try and explain more I can...

Regards

AJ
 
You say what the settings will be like just from looking at a photo!

Depends on the lighting on that day. Do you want to stop the movement or add a bit of blur to the shots? Will flash be used etc etc

ISO 200 would be good as there would be no noise and do you want to just have the rider in focus and the rest of it out of focus? If so a small f number. Then from the f number you can work out the shutter speed.
 
I have covered a few events at the SNEC and it is a good location to shoot indoors.

I use a Nikon D200 with a 70-200 2.8 and I normally get away with ISO 250 and shutter speeds down to as low as 1/160th. As already said it depends what effect you are looking for though. Strange as it may sound it gets easier as the lights warm up after about 20 mins.

Whats the event?
 
I cant believe all this iso talk.. iso wont be a problem if you get a good exposure.

With a lens thats f4-f6 and your going to be using 200m a lot then you will be at f6.. theres no way on this earth you will get anyhting at iso 200 ....IMHO

You need speed. You must have your lens as open as you can so you will be at f4-f6 all the time.. dont even think of setting anything else.

Right that only leaves speed and iso.. well your going to need a minimum of 320 shutter speed.. but thats a bare minimum and hope for the best with moving subjects.. at f6 and 320 shutter speed indoors you will have no option but to bump your iso way up.

So this is where you decide.. aparture is already set.. If you start at shutter 320, then wherever ISO is in order to expose correctly.. you then choose if you want faster shutter (recommended) then you up the iso.. if you think iso too high then keep shutter down..

But... You can save pictures with noise. (esp shooting raw). you cant save blurred pictures..

So i would reccomend starting at iso 800 (if you can get it at f6) and see what shutter speed you get.. anything over 320 would be a bonus to be frank... indoors you are going to struggle with that lens..

All the above is presuming your shooting moing subject.. horses jumping/trotting ect
 
BobR said:
I have covered a few events at the SNEC and it is a good location to shoot indoors.

I use a Nikon D200 with a 70-200 2.8 and I normally get away with ISO 250 and shutter speeds down to as low as 1/160th.
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right if you ahve those settings in the same venue then as I said.. at f6 - 200m then theres no way such a low iso..

your lucky getting owt at 160 .. I have captures stuff at 200 .. not that venue.. but for someone not done it before and the lens he has.. 160 would be too slow I htink :)
 
KIPAX has a point (I didn't see what lens you were using). I normally shoot wide open at 2.8 and with your lens you are a few stops away from that.

In saying that the lighting there is brand new and really good so have a play about and see what you get. It won't take long to work out what works and what doesn't.


Bob
 
BobR said:
I have covered a few events at the SNEC and it is a good location to shoot indoors.

I use a Nikon D200 with a 70-200 2.8 and I normally get away with ISO 250 and shutter speeds down to as low as 1/160th. As already said it depends what effect you are looking for though. Strange as it may sound it gets easier as the lights warm up after about 20 mins.

Whats the event?
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BSJA.

and is it ok if i could see some of your images from there :)
 
No - was using a Nikon 70-200 2.8Vr (better than a monopod :lol:). 1/160 gives you a slight blur to indicate movement which is what I like for my equestrian stuff.

I will dig a couple out and post up for you in a few moments.
 
These are taken at a Natural Horsemanship clinic. The instructor is a guy called Bruce Logan who is from Texas (like you can't tell!) and is so very talented.

Now you can see how I could see your shot was from the SNEC with those wonderful blue chairs!

Slightly oversharpened for here but you get the gist. The last shot was taken at 1/13 at F5.6 which shows what can be done!

F3.2 1/60th ISO 400
Clinic065.jpg


F3.8 1/125 ISO 400
Clinic175.jpg


F4.5 1/100 ISO (taken on my 50mm)
Clinic168.jpg


Sorry could resist - F5.6 1/13th ISO 180
DSC0071.jpg
 
There are no set rules really when it comes to horses and shutter speed - it's what you prefer. Personally, as a "horsey" person myself I like action to be frozen completely - those're the kind of pictures I'd buy - but others do prefer a little movement.

Have your aperture as wide as you can, then I start at iso 200 usually indoors with a shutter speed as high as I can - then stick the iso up as necessary (depending on the lighting) to get a higher shutter speed if it's needed. For most indoor comps I've ended up shooting at iso1600 - but as has been said, it's much better to get a noisy image than a blurred one! As for shutter speed, I wouldn't go below 1/200 and for the best "frozen" images, look at using 1/800 and above - just go as high as your iso permits. Don't forget, you may need to adjust your WB indoors too as floodlights can sometimes give a yellow cast.

As for the jumping itself, the best shots are usually of the take-off with the forelegs tucked up, and the hindlegs just leaving the ground - although it does depend on personal preference.
 
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