Some advice about frameset website

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Hi. I haven't gone near frames for xxx years! An acquaintance has, apparently, gone to 1&1 and set up a site in 2012. They have their own domain name which when you go to it opens up the site, but when you look at the code its a frameset.

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Frameset//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-frameset.dtd">

<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"/>
<title>U Support</title>
</head>

<frameset rows="100%">
<frame src="http://s399792123.initial-website.co.uk" title="U Support" frameborder="0" noresize="noresize"/>
<noframes>
<body>
<h1>U Support</h1>

<p>
<a href="http://s399792123.initial-website.co.uk">http://www.usupport.org.uk/</a>
</p>
</body>
</noframes>
</frameset>
</html>

The link takes you to the 'proper' website. It doesn't work on iOS, you get blank page. I am struggling to understand why 1&1 would even offer a framed website. Is there a simple way to unpick it all? Does anyone have any experience of this sort of thing? I'd be grateful for some clues.
Thanks.
 
Photodiva said:
The link takes you to the 'proper' website. It doesn't work on iOS, you get blank page. I am struggling to understand why 1&1 would even offer a framed website. Is there a simple way to unpick it all? Does anyone have any experience of this sort of thing? I'd be grateful for some clues.
Thanks.
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It's a very 1990s way of doing things, but should still work. It also involves the host in running two separate HTTP servers (macroandcato.com and kundenserver.de) each using named based virtual hosting to serve multiple sites (probably thousands), for a reason which is not immediately fathomable. One would do, and if done that way eliminate the need for the frame.

iOS should be able to render frames, they were included in the HTML 3.0 spec about 15 years ago (and most browsers supported HTML 3.0 before the RFC was finalised anyway), so there is no excuse for any non-text based browser not to support them.

I would imagine that there is no FTP access to the server that has the index page containing the text you quoted, only to the initialwebsite server holding the actual web pages, so there would be nothing to be done directly.

Move hosts to one that doesn't use a kludge of an implementation.
 
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Photodiva said:
Hi. I haven't gone near frames for xxx years! An acquaintance has, apparently, gone to 1&1 and set up a site in 2012. They have their own domain name which when you go to it opens up the site, but when you look at the code its a frameset.

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Frameset//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-frameset.dtd">

<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"/>
<title>U Support</title>
</head>

<frameset rows="100%">
<frame src="http://s399792123.initial-website.co.uk" title="U Support" frameborder="0" noresize="noresize"/>
<noframes>
<body>
<h1>U Support</h1>

<p>
<a href="http://s399792123.initial-website.co.uk">http://www.usupport.org.uk/</a>
</p>
</body>
</noframes>
</frameset>
</html>

The link takes you to the 'proper' website. It doesn't work on iOS, you get blank page. I am struggling to understand why 1&1 would even offer a framed website. Is there a simple way to unpick it all? Does anyone have any experience of this sort of thing? I'd be grateful for some clues.
Thanks.
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use PHP and DIV's
 
Thanks for the replies. I tried looking for initial-website.co.uk but it doesn't seem to be a live domain. However googling, there are a huge number of websites with the same number prefix, e.g.

Ballindarroch Country House: Home
s382192377.initial-website.co.uk/&#8206;
Tweet. Print | Sitemap Recommend this page © Ballindarroch Country House This website was created using 1&1 MyWebsite. Login Logout | Edit page · 1&1.

Which indicates it is 1&1. Is this the standard way of 1&1 MyWebsite, perhaps? The example above does not now have a live site. If you google the name it still appears in the listing but the link is an Error 404 Not Found page. Other examples, e.g. EFR Recruitment when googled give a link to http://s330030014.initial-website.co.uk/

In the end I called 1&1 and they weren't very forthcoming, just suggested the site owner calls their sales to put it right. Most odd. Reinforces my instinct to stay well away from 1&1 ...
 
neil_g said:
id guess x.initial-website.co.uk is the standard 1&1 domain until the "correct" domain is registered?
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That seems to be the way they do it. What puzzled me was why the domain name of the website proper opened a frameset. I suspect the owner missed a step because they don't know what they are doing. I hope 1&1 sorts it for them.
 
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