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Calzor Suzay

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I always shoot in RAW but know that with jpg the camera will apply a certain amount of sharpening to a style of photo say portrait, landscape etc. In LR3 are there any presets available that emulate the sharpening you'd get out of an in camera jpg?

I'm not after an exact match and if a photo is good enough you should work on it individually but when you have say 100 photos last thing you want to do is adjust them all, and just go preset 'portrait' and apply :)
 
Well i dont use LR, but i'd imagine there would be a way of recording a process (i.e an adjustment set to taste by your good self) and then batch process however many photos you want. So effectively you make your own preset(s), even for future use.

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I have seen sharpening presets about... but pretty much every image will need different sharpening. A female portrait will need less sharpening maybe that a gritty male one, a landscape will be different again, even content in the image will vary, lots of fine detail will need a different treatment to a chunky street scene etc etc.
Presets are great but they can only average out a shot.
If you search google you'll find plenty to choose from (theres some built in to LR)
 
Calzor Suzay said:
.... when you have say 100 photos last thing you want to do is adjust them all...
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I know but sometimes you just have to:(

I spend at least 6 hours after a football match editing and uploading my photos to Flickr. There are situations where a pre-configured preset could be usefull, maybe if you have no cropping to do and the subject is the same in each picture, but even then its a compromise.
 
You can use Nik Sharpener Pro to do a batch in LR and it will analyse each image individually and you can either accept or alter the output slightly to suit. I find it's normally as near spot on that it doesn't matter - it's also very good at what it does. Very quick to do as well.
 
Just apply a base level sharpening and NR, suitable for the ISO and shooting conditions, to the first photograph then sync it to all the images and fine tune each if/as required.
 
Are you using the output sharpening? in LR it's automated to give the best results.
 
swanseamale47 said:
Are you using the output sharpening? in LR it's automated to give the best results.
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Wayne, is that not just based on image output size rather than image content?
 
DekHog said:
Wayne, is that not just based on image output size rather than image content?
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It is based on image size but I wasn't clear whether the op was using it or not, it does make a difference to the final image and I wondered if the op knew about it and had tried it or not.
 
I do use output sharpening, mostly screen standard as I don't print as of yet.
I've read in many places sharpening should be applied to RAW photos, I'll have a look for some presets :)
 
You are right Calzor - processing a RAW should involve sharpenning. You are using Canon so why not use DP to convert? You can get an average setting with the first image and then save the 'recipe' to your clipboard. Then select the rest of the images and copy the recipe to those. You can still quickly review all the pictures and make minor adjustments before you convert the batch.
 
I'd say mainly because LR3 is now light years ahead of DPP, and the method of using recipes in DPP is exactly the same as the one that I described above in Lightroom.
 
I don't want to start introducing loads of extra steps, LR3 does the job for me as an Amateur :) I guess I just need to sit down set me defaults then batch apply like DemiLion says then if I need extra work or tweaking because the photo is worth it then I'll give it the extra time.
 
Theres an excelent book on sharpening called "real world sharpening" by bruce fraiser and jeff schewe. well worth a read if you can find it.
 
DemiLion said:
I'd say mainly because LR3 is now light years ahead of DPP, and the method of using recipes in DPP is exactly the same as the one that I described above in Lightroom.
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I take your point Mark. LR does waaaay more than I need so I tend to use DPP for the simplicity and speed and then work in PS for anything more that's needed.
 
AndyB said:
I take your point Mark. LR does waaaay more than I need so I tend to use DPP for the simplicity and speed and then work in PS for anything more that's needed.
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I can completely understand that, because it's exactly what I was doing until recently, especially as I hadn't really got on well with LR2 and couldn't be bothered with the cataloguing.

Now I've started using LR3 properly I'm hooked and rarely use PS unless I'm doing some fairly strong editing. Couple that with the fact that it's a fair bit quicker working on files in LR as you don't have to use PS most of the time, it makes it a winner as far as I'm concerned!

However, and it's a big however, I wouldn't want to be without PS as well, so it becomes one extra layer of expense; which is worth bearing in mind! :D
 
Of course it depends on your style of photography though right? Anything I consider to be art photography would always end up in PS for one thing or another. My corporate stuff on the other hand is all JPG for speed and doesnt usually go near any PP,
 
Adey said:
A Whole book dedicated just to sharpening? How sharp does a picture need to be for christ's sake:gag:

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It explains what sharpening actually is, talks about different sharpening workflows, different types of sharpening for different things etc etc. It sound boring but it's actually quite interesting and well worth a read.
 
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