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Im thinking of whether I should sell my kit lens on its own but I will then be left with the body only in a kit lens box.

Is this likely to affect resale value on the body, or in fact both?

Thanks
 
plenty of people do it, done it myself

cant see a problem myself, could be wrong though
 
A lot of buyers do like to get the original box, and everything that came in it, but this is obviously impossible if you're splitting a kit. I wouldn't worry too much about it, you might take a slight knock but I doubt if it'll be significant. Just explain why there's no box when you sell the lens, or why the camera comes in the box without the kit lens, if a buyer wants to know.
 
Boxes appeal to collectors and polishers. Most people that are wanting to buy your camera to use, aren't going to care one way or the other.
 
Fair point guys. I'm one of those anal types that likes to keep everything from purchase and store away the boxes! Just wondering how many people other than me would be put off by this, as I for one defintely wouldnt buy one without a box! Mind you I dont tend to buy second hand lenses, or cameras for that matter :/
 
There are people that sell the boxes for bodies or lenses on ebay so maybe if your that worried take a look an see whats available - :thinking: then again there could be someone out there that would compare serial numbers on the box to whats in them :suspect:
 
k3wt said:
Fair point guys. I'm one of those anal types that likes to keep everything from purchase and store away the boxes! Just wondering how many people other than me would be put off by this, as I for one defintely wouldnt buy one without a box! Mind you I dont tend to buy second hand lenses, or cameras for that matter :/
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I like to store away the boxes too but the lack of a box wouldn't put me off buying something 2nd hand. If something doesn't seem right then I'd leave alone - box or not. I have bought a lens (in extremely good condition) without a box.
 
Alastair said:
Boxes appeal to collectors and polishers. Most people that are wanting to buy your camera to use, aren't going to care one way or the other.
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I agree totally....cameras are for using and once used in anger then to me the box is just something to throw in the loft...
 
k3wt said:
Im thinking of whether I should sell my kit lens on its own but I will then be left with the body only in a kit lens box.

Is this likely to affect resale value on the body, or in fact both?

Thanks
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Body without lens in a kit box is no problem; that how I got my new 5Dmk2 and 7D.

When you're selling a body the box is nice, but most buyers will regard cables, charger, manuals and any software discs as more important.
 
I keep boxes but only because you don't get as good a price on resale if you don't. I wish I didn't have them cluttering up the place though. They have absolutely no bearing on the condition of the equipment which, after all, is what matters.
 
I don't think the question was really about the box I think it was more about the lens. It really about selling a body only ok its in the box that has a hole for the lens but the only difference it makes is that it changes who will buy your camera when you decide to sell it.

A body only will sell to anyone who wants to buy that camera and already has a lens or isnt interested in the kit lens.

A body with lens is a camera that someone who doesn't already have a lens can use without having to spend any more money opens the sale up to anyone looking to spend what your asking on a camera.

As your profile lists a 7D then your probably looking at people who are upgrading or already have a lens the 2nd group of people above usually buy a XXXD or a XXD so body only wont realy matter so much to your market, never mind if its in a box or not. The other market like a box.
 
I recently sold a 1100D without the kit lens and it was nothing but hassle. Everything else was there, including the box but not the lens since I'd already shifted it. People were constantly making lowball offers because the lens wasn't there. They ignored my advice that if they wanted the kit lens, they could buy one secondhand for way less than they were trying to knock off the price. They saw it as a kit without the lens, I'd suggest you advertise it as body only and don't even mention the kit lens. Just explain that it will be sent in the kit box, but the sale is body only. As soon as you mention the lens, people will start to assume they're entitled to it.
 
I'm listing my kit lens as we speak, either going to get some pennies to put towards a lens that I want or just let it collect dust.
 
Fla5h, read the post above yours about the difficulties he had when selling his 1100D people buying that level of camera includes the 600D want to buy a camera and not have to buy a lens as well all they will see is the fact that to buy an 18-55mm IS the its going to cost them another £100-£150, so they will try to know that off what your asking, you will get about £60 for your kit lens if your lucky its not worth selling if you want to sell your 600D in the future.
 
I'd have no problem with either selling or buying a body-only in a kit box. That said, I've tended to do most of my buying and selling here, where people tend to be a bit more knowledgeable than ebay/gumtree/small-ads :)
 
Little John said:
Fla5h, read the post above yours about the difficulties he had when selling his 1100D people buying that level of camera includes the 600D want to buy a camera and not have to buy a lens as well all they will see is the fact that to buy an 18-55mm IS the its going to cost them another £100-£150, so they will try to know that off what your asking, you will get about £60 for your kit lens if your lucky its not worth selling if you want to sell your 600D in the future.
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You can pick up a good nick 18-55mm IS 2nd hand between £40-£60. They are no where near worth between £100-£150. They are manufactured cheaply purley as a kit lens

If I decide to sell my 600D in a couple of years and feel that it will fetch a £100 more with the kit lens then I may consider buying a 2nd 18-55mm IS. My opinion is that it wil not.

I'm looking for a 2nd 500d for her in doors but not interested in any lens that comes with it but it is each to there own.
 
I'm just going on my experiance, I sold my 450D to someone away from here to maximise what I got for it and everyone who contacted me asked if it had a lens. the reason I said those prices are the prices that the inexperianced would be told if they went in to a local non 2nd hand camera shop. Jessops want even more.

The other thing was is £60 realy worth selling the lens for if it makes selling in the future with the body a lot easier? then again it all depends on what lens you looking to buy £60 on a £400 lens is a huge chunk but £60 on a £1200 lens isn't.
 
Little John said:
I'm just going on my experiance, I sold my 450D to someone away from here to maximise what I got for it and everyone who contacted me asked if it had a lens. the reason I said those prices are the prices that the inexperianced would be told if they went in to a local non 2nd hand camera shop. Jessops want even more.

The other thing was is £60 realy worth selling the lens for if it makes selling in the future with the body a lot easier? then again it all depends on what lens you looking to buy £60 on a £400 lens is a huge chunk but £60 on a £1200 lens isn't.
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£60 in my pocket now is better than it sitting in the loft for x amount of years, I see your point though but in my opinion I would sell now while it's mint rather than rotting away somewhere
 
Little John said:
I'm just going on my experiance, I sold my 450D to someone away from here to maximise what I got for it and everyone who contacted me asked if it had a lens. the reason I said those prices are the prices that the inexperianced would be told if they went in to a local non 2nd hand camera shop. Jessops want even more.

The other thing was is £60 realy worth selling the lens for if it makes selling in the future with the body a lot easier? then again it all depends on what lens you looking to buy £60 on a £400 lens is a huge chunk but £60 on a £1200 lens isn't.
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I'd far rather have the £60 than a bit of gear sitting around completely unused and devaluing anyway... Seems like a waste.

If the advert is completely clear I see no reason why any buyer would query the lens not being included. That said I've seen it happen here ;)
 
Alastair said:
Boxes appeal to collectors and polishers. Most people that are wanting to buy your camera to use, aren't going to care one way or the other.
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You obviously haven't been in the classified section recently then!:lol::lol:

Whenever I see a body listed without the box most people are wanting you to knock a hefty chunk off your price.
 
Ploddles said:
You obviously haven't been in the classified section recently then!:lol::lol:

Whenever I see a body listed without the box most people are wanting you to knock a hefty chunk off your price.
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so are we saying the box is more valuable than the product inside it


Anyone intersted in a BMW M3 box
 
Fla5h said:
£60 in my pocket now is better than it sitting in the loft for x amount of years, I see your point though but in my opinion I would sell now while it's mint rather than rotting away somewhere
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I'm not sure about Nikon, pentax etc but I have left my canon kit Len's in the box for over 3 years and neither of them rotted maybe the other guys should look at new materials? :lol: I did just check the sigma 18-200 I have as it rarely get used, usually when Dad borrows a camera he moaned the kit lens didn't zoom in enough so I bought that for him to use and even with the sigma dodgy quality no signs of rot there either. ;)

ronnus said:
I'd far rather have the £60 than a bit of gear sitting around completely unused and devaluing anyway... Seems like a waste.
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But lenses don't devalue like the body does, the 18-55 IS has sold for £60-65 for ages no problem there are the occasional blips where people don't value them and accept the low ball offers. Prices some times seem to go up as well on lenses the 300mm f/2.8 IS has jumped quite a bit since I bought mine due to the price of the new one being a lot higher.


Fla5h said:
Anyone interested in a BMW M3 box
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I didn't thing they came in a box? :wave: Boxes just mean that it can be packed away in the same way the manufacturer packs them which should be adequate for transport rather than just unwrapped in a box. I know no one would do that but it is just a confidence booster.
 
Little John said:
I didn't thing they came in a box? :wave: Boxes just mean that it can be packed away in the same way the manufacturer packs them which should be adequate for transport rather than just unwrapped in a box. I know no one would do that but it is just a confidence booster.
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Little John said:
I'm not sure about Nikon, pentax etc but I have left my canon kit Len's in the box for over 3 years and neither of them rotted maybe the other guys should look at new materials? :lol: I did just check the sigma 18-200 I have as it rarely get used, usually when Dad borrows a camera he moaned the kit lens didn't zoom in enough so I bought that for him to use and even with the sigma dodgy quality no signs of rot there either. ;)

But lenses don't devalue like the body does, the 18-55 IS has sold for £60-65 for ages no problem there are the occasional blips where people don't value them and accept the low ball offers. Prices some times seem to go up as well on lenses the 300mm f/2.8 IS has jumped quite a bit since I bought mine due to the price of the new one being a lot higher.

I didn't thing they came in a box? :wave: Boxes just mean that it can be packed away in the same way the manufacturer packs them which should be adequate for transport rather than just unwrapped in a box. I know no one would do that but it is just a confidence booster.
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To be completely honest it sounds like you've absolutely made your mind up on this matter and had done before posting, so not sure why you asked the question in the first place? In the words of a certain dragon... "Ah'm out"
 
I'm not the original poster ronnus

That is a very nice box Fla5h how much LOL
 
Fla5h said:
so are we saying the box is more valuable than the product inside it
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Of course I'm not but if there are 2 identical items in the classified then the one with the original box will usually sell for more than the one without.

It costs nothing to put the box in the loft and get it out again when you want to sell the body.
 
Little John said:
I'm not the original poster ronnus

That is a very nice box Fla5h how much LOL
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Heh, my bad... must stop using the phone to read forums :bonk:
 
I just bought a 5D in a box with no kit lenses (it originally came with 2 lenses!) - it really didn't bother me, it was a body I wanted not lenses and to be honest I wouldn't have cared if there was no box!

I just sold a 400D body only, no box and got more for it than I expected! Whatever SLR I've had I've always sold the kit lens.
 
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