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I am looking for a security /surveillance system, containing one night time / infra red camera that will allow me to access from mobile phone via app, or one that will allow me to do Surveillance on my PC from home which is situated some 2 miles away from the setup.


Any guidance please.
 
Thanks David, that's the sort of thing, at least I am now in the right direction. Regards.
 
Maplin do plenty of CCTV kits too. Most come with network access and night vision cameras.
Most kits also come as a 4 channel DVR with 2 cameras so you can upgrade by buying more cameras.
They are not difficult to fit - just keep the cameras high enough that they cant be poked underneath with a stick so they point up to the sky (and make sure you tighten them up properly). I've seen footage where the camera suddenly shoots upwards and next minute the building is burgled. Also ensure there is no easy access to any cables:)
 
Assuming there is wifi or ethernt at the site you only need a cheap IP camera such as this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wifi-1MP-...curity-System-Network-IP-Camera-/261712783833
I have three similar ones running right now to monitor a farmyard and two calving pens.
The one looking at the yard also emails me a reasonable quality picture if it detects movement.
Mostly lots of pics of a dog...

They basically put a video stream online which you can view in any browser or there are various apps for it work better on mobiles.
However to get that working you need to set up port forwarding on your router.
Some models are more tricky than others - try google - it's a common thing to need to do.

If only using it over your local network - i.e. not on the internet - it is very simple and can be up in minutes
The port forwarding is what takes some knowledge.

I would caution the documentation on the cheap chinese cams is poor and though it's actually pretty simple to set up, if you aren't technically patient it might prove something to let the kids sort out ;)
 
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Thanks guys for the guidance very helpful. Forgot about Maplin.:ty:
My project is to install a system at our local church (permission obtained) which has suffered from the activity of thieves for the forth time, twice for the roof lead.
The church is in a remote place and the tiny village is scattered, the nearest house being some 0.5 miles away. The village and pretty church is dear to my heart and some of my ancestors are buried there.
I have decided to take on the project and fund myself albeit a little tight with the hope we can either deter or capture these dam low life criminals :bat:.
Sorry to run on....:(
 
Presumably the offenders arrive and depart in a vehicle to convey the tiles away. If so I would defiantly set up a covert camera that will capture the number plate. If you can get a number plate, vehicle description an 'attention drawn' could be put out over the air. An an 'interest report' can be flagged to the vehicle. Good luck with it.
 
i don't know if your sorted by now but i will give you my view on CCTV it's something iv'e had experience with over the years strictly at a domestic level

over the years iv'e used quite a few different cctv cameras at varying quality from cheap maplin rubbish to 1080p full hd cameras including IP cameras
for what it's worth IP cameras are probably the hardest to set up if you don't have a dedicated NVR which simplifies the setup
the plus point with IP cameras is the resolution / quality can exceed even full HD SDI CCTV setups
960H CCTV is a bit of compromise and a way of squeezing a little more image resolution from standard definition analogue CCTV, personally i wouldn't invest in that technology it is becoming outdated and slowly but surely being replaced with HD SDI / IP cameras in one form or another

if you have an existing CCTV standard analogue setup there are what's known as hybrid DVR's which will accept SD analogue cameras and full HD SDI cameras without having to change the wiring to suite the newer technology
the image quality is considerably much better using HD SDI cameras with them being 4 times the resolution ( 1080P ) of standard definition ( SD ) CCTV cameras and the best part is the prices are slowly but surely comparing to SD setups

at the moment i have a bit of a varied setup using one IP camera ( sanyo VCD HD3300P ) a 700 TVL QVIS outdoor dome camera which i'm not sure which model, a JVC C920E with a wide angle lens and 2 samsung 1080P Hd cameras which came as part of a hybrid kit
all these cameras give varied results the worst being the QVIS dome camera
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which iv'e seen with various brand badges but all boast the sony sensor and for some reason get good ratings but my experience with them i would have to disagree with the ratings, the night vision is poor and tend to give a tunnel vision view illuminating the middle of the image only and the range is around 20 feet at best
in daylight hours the image is acceptable but don't expect any real detail which would be ok if your only covering a small area but wide angle views are poor
i find these type of camera a much of a muchness and they all give similar results
the next in line is the JVC C920E i have a couple of these but only one is used at the moment
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these can be picked up used quite cheaply from the likes of ebay and if bought cheaply enough ( around 40 / 50 quid ) are a bargain but you will need an outdoor housing if used outdoors
the beauty of these cameras is that you can use a lens that suite the purpose and there is no tom foolery going on with the so called low light sensitivity ( LUX ) because it is determined by the lens you use ( similar to your DSLR ) i have a F1 lens attached to one of mine which as you can guess is pretty good at night
most CCTV cameras that boast infrared LED's are not that sensitive the figures are made up using the LED's the spec will say 1 LUX but the reality is more like 4 to 8 LUX without the infrared Led's switched on which with no ambient illumination is pretty rubbish
as far as SD CCTV cameras go i like these but they can be a bit bulky when used in a outdoor housing and can be a bit of an eyesore on domestic property compared to smaller cameras or dome cameras

the IP camera i have is a sanyo HD3300P 1080P dome camera
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the image quality during the day is very good with it being full HD but it's permanently recording to my PC at 5 frames a second JPG images with a 500 gig drive dedicated to it, the software i use to do this is called go1984 which works well with the camera
during the day this camera is fine but at night it's not that good and for the price i expected more not to mention sanyo got out of the IP camera market a few years ago sold there dealings with IP cameras to panasonic who have shelved them meaning that the sanyo range of IP cameras are now obsolete but i'm not bitter :(

because of the nature of IP cameras using either a dedicated NVR or setting up a PC to network them i'm nor really a fan but they do have there place in the surveillance world

last but not least i purchased a samsung 1080P full HD hybrid setup
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/smart-...nnel-home-security-kit-2-tb-10078576-pdt.html
from the very same place for a mere 400 quid which i thought was a bargain
as you can see the prices have risen again and they don't seem to have stock any more but if the prices fall again i would recommend this as a simple no nonsense HD CCTV setup, if you already have a SD CCTV setup the DVR replaces your old one with no modification as long as you have 4 existing cameras or less
the HD cameras that are included in the hybrid kit are surprisingly good with decent daytime image quality and excellent night time image quality the best i have seen at the price i paid
internet / smartphone viewing is quite easy to set up and works well using a service like no ip if you have a dynamic ip internet connection

the trouble with CCTV in general is there is so much to choose from it can be a bit of a minefield and a lot of it is cheap for a reason, if i was to set up from scratch today i would go the HD SDI route and bypass standard definition completely even a relatively cheap HD SDI setup would better than all but the very best SD has to offer which would cost considerably more anyway
the main thing to consider is what sort of area you want to cover( the higher resolution the camera the more area can be covered with acceptable detail )
and how much ambient light is available at night
if you can set up extra ambient lighting for night time recording better still even a small amount of light is better than none

well that took a while but i though i would put my 2p worth in :)
 
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