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A mate told me that Samyang are starting to make AF lenses?

Is this just a vicious rumour or is this based in fact. I loved my Samyang 85 f1.4 on my d800, but ultimately not having af was the killer.
 
50mm & 14mm AF were announced in May but in Sony fit.
 
Yeah i know it sucks, i have both Sony and Nikon, wold love them on Nikon
 
On a slightly different note but not so completely that it doesn't belong to this thread.
I have the Canon 24mm TSE f/4 and that has manual only and because of its abilities is exceptionally sharp particularly when used straight ie not tilted or shifted.
This lens even when using it as a straight prime being only manual makes me think far more about what I am doing in all aspect of taking a photo.
To such an extent that I find myself using most of the time my AF lenses manually.
Just to point out I have all but two lenses that have manual over ride which helps a lot because I have my cameras set to back button focus.
At times it is quicker if not more accurate when selective focusing with wide apertures to simply turn the focus ring.
I have found you can keep pressing the focus button and not hit your intended subject.
Without moving the focus point either by center focus and recomposing or actually moving the focus point it is easier to just give a slight tweak on the focus ring to pull into focus what it is you want.
Although I now have the new 1dx mkii and have found its way of moving the focus points whilst maintaining composition very intuitive.
ie not centre point focus and recompose, I have found (being very picky) this method to at times not have exact focus.
Due I feel in that if you want the subject to the side the subject distance changes when you then recompose your view.
Very slight but geometry proves this has to be, that your line of site distance has changed if you and subject don't move but you do twist to recompose.
Anyhoo just my two peneth worth of why I quite like manual focus.
 
Samyang manual focus lenses are the way forward Shaheed, my first 15/20yrs of photography was all manual focus lenses. It does no harm to learn like this instead of auto-focus lenses, nearly everyone shoots 'Auto'. Nice to push the envelope a bit.

Same as your SQ-A.
 
macvisual said:
Samyang manual focus lenses are the way forward Shaheed, my first 15/20yrs of photography was all manual focus lenses. It does no harm to learn like this instead of auto-focus lenses, nearly everyone shoots 'Auto'. Nice to push the envelope a bit.

Same as your SQ-A.
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Except the SQA has a huge bright ground glass screen and most DSLR screens are rubbish for focussing with.
 
Phil V said:
Except the SQA has a huge bright ground glass screen and most DSLR screens are rubbish for focussing with.
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You can always fit a split image screen to most DSLR's.
 
dizidav said:
You can always fit a split image screen to most DSLR's.
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You can also fit a stick shift to an Aston Martin - the paddle shift works brilliantly and the stick doesn't work that well - but you can do it.

Modern cameras were designed to AF, they do it brilliantly. I have no problem with MF, I have as many years experience with it as with AF (about 15 each), and I'd happily pick up an old camera and use it as well as a modern one. but I see no reason to make a modern one harder to use.
 
That might be good news if they're a slightly more cost-effective alternative to Sigma ART lenses.

On a related front, I discovered Yongnuo lenses yesterday (via ebay) but that's not an place I want to go in terms of image quality. Having said that, the Nikon 50 1.8G I had back at Christmas didn't have anything to boast about either.
 
I don't think they'll worry Sigma Art lenses for image quality but cost is another thing.

I read a review of the Samyang 50mm f1.4 and downloaded some sample images and I think it's fair to say that the quality is at best adequate... although that's debateable and depends on what's acceptable to each of us. Also, some sample images at f1.4 look worse to me than some others so I'd want to check further and see what's going on there if seriously interested.

That lens offers a f1.4 aperture but I'd say it's pretty much outclassed by the three Sony 50/55mm offerings.

Anyway the review and samples are there should anyone wish to view...

http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/samyang_af_50mm_f1_4_fe_review/
 
macvisual said:
Samyang manual focus lenses are the way forward Shaheed, my first 15/20yrs of photography was all manual focus lenses. It does no harm to learn like this instead of auto-focus lenses, nearly everyone shoots 'Auto'. Nice to push the envelope a bit.

Same as your SQ-A.
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I had a Samyang 85 for about 4 years!!
 
Phil V said:
Except the SQA has a huge bright ground glass screen and most DSLR screens are rubbish for focussing with.
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Amen! Apparently all the fancy electronics don't allow bigger prism. My arse, there just isn't a big enough market.

However, that's why I'm happy that EVFs are finally starting to perform properly. Now if they could only get past the measly 0.7x as well.
 
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Cistron said:
Amen! Apparently all the fancy electronics don't allow bigger prism. My arse, there just isn't a big enough market.

However, that's why I'm happy that EVFs are finally starting to perform properly. Now if they could only get past the measly 0.7x as well.
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There are a few DSLR's on the market with 100% veiwfinders.
 
dizidav said:
There are a few DSLR's on the market with 100% veiwfinders.
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Nothing compared to a focussing screen/ground glass waist level finder.

I *did* manage to focus at f1.4 on the d800 with the Samyang. I'd just rather have af
 
dizidav said:
There are a few DSLR's on the market with 100% veiwfinders.
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Magnification and coverage are two different pair of shoes. Though apparently they are related for design decisions.

Another problem with SLR viewfinders is that they might be out of alignment with the sensor. Doesn't matter though for AF as long as the AF sensor is aligned.
 
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woof woof said:
I don't think they'll worry Sigma Art lenses for image quality but cost is another thing.

I read a review of the Samyang 50mm f1.4 and downloaded some sample images and I think it's fair to say that the quality is at best adequate... although that's debateable and depends on what's acceptable to each of us. Also, some sample images at f1.4 look worse to me than some others so I'd want to check further and see what's going on there if seriously interested.

That lens offers a f1.4 aperture but I'd say it's pretty much outclassed by the three Sony 50/55mm offerings.

Anyway the review and samples are there should anyone wish to view...

http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/samyang_af_50mm_f1_4_fe_review/
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I have a Sony 50 1.4 and SR's Samyang 85 1.4. The Sony is a touch sharper on crop than the Samyang is on FX, has worse CA, very flares much less, focusses much closer. TBH I've found Minolta/Sony lenses a bit better on crop (and much cheaper) than their Nikon equivalents on FX, and very much cheaper used. If Samyang could match the (not so impressive) Nikon image quality for a bit less then I'd be a customer.
 
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