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Folk are up in arms in my teeny town that the council are ramping up there charges for some areas that have parking permit zones to about £50/year.
Does anyone else have this?
 
Mr Bump said:
Folk are up in arms in my teeny town that the council are ramping up there charges for some areas that have parking permit zones to about £50/year.
Does anyone else have this?
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AFAIK there is Permit Parking in areas of both local towns but I have idea of the yearly costs.

But @ £50/year to me sounds like a bargain as £1 a week is a snip!
 
Yes we have parking permits, forced on us as the Council misnamed the scheme as applying to one road but applied it to the whole village. Permits were free, but all done online. You could only have one visitor at a time. Residents cars needed a permit if parked on the road. Trades people had to pay for permits. It was/is a nightmare for careers etc. This year we now have to pay £30 for each permit. I have in the 4 years it has been operating never have and hopefully never will get a permit. I continue to badger both the Parish and Metropolitan Council over it.
 
I used to have to pay £50/year in Chesham Bucks, as there was no parking at or on the road outside my house, so given that I had to use public car parks most of the time, it was good value and necessary. I'd have been unhappy to have to pay to park on the road, but in a car park, it seems perfectly reasonable. Likewise if that was the only way of preventing non-residents from parking on the roadside or certain other areas, why not, it has to be administered and policed.
 
It's free where I live too, but when I originally bought my house the parking permits were just for the street you lived on and. never had a problem finding a place to park, even late on..... The council then decided to switch to zones for the permits and it's been absolute mayhem ever since... Someone off another street parked a camper van near my house and it never moved for 9 months.... I've seen it parked elsewhere since that time and again it's been left parked up long term...

One time I got a parking ticket cos I was a day late in renewing the permit... :headbang:
 
Glasgow City Council are going one further to extract money from the locals; they are currently proposing a scaled charge for resident parking permits based on how polluting the vehicle is (using official vehicle CO² ratings).

However, a 226+g/km car that could only be doing 1000 miles a year will be paying £300 per year, whereas the 55g/km car doing 15,000 miles per year will only pay £180 per year. Which is polluting more?

It's a flawed argument (not that this ever stops a Council) because a vehicle's pollution is based on emissions and distance (idling whilst parked is illegal). Both of these are already represented and taxed accordingly through Vehicle Tax and Fuel Duty/VAT. I can see the next move being to charge people parked in their own driveways and using "pollution" as the excuse. They already tried to charge businesses for letting staff park in their own private land. The massive kickback stopped it, but it could come back based on this excuse as well.

It's just another money grab under the guise of environmental concern. As can been seen with the LEZ zones, once one LA starts it the rest will not want to miss out.
 
Pollution of a vehicle should always be taken into consideration on all these kind of charges.
more polluting vehicles are not welcome on our roads and owners need to know that.
hit them in the wallet.
 
Mr Bump said:
Pollution of a vehicle should always be taken into consideration on all these kind of charges.
more polluting vehicles are not welcome on our roads and owners need to know that.
hit them in the wallet.
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They already are.
 
Hang on, I thought you had me on ignore?!! Haha ;)
 
My employer, a car dealer, just this week has created parking zones for the employees, they want £35 a month or £420 per year.
It used to be free, but now the owner of the ground has decided that they will start charging, and its getting passed on to us.
We don't have to accept it, but we have too find a place to park,
Even though there is free parking very close by my employer has it full of sales cars, No number plates, no road tax on some of these cars etc.
So they have us paying a bill and they also have the free parking.
UP THE WORKERS.
Might have to go and work else where
 
gman said:
Glasgow City Council are going one further to extract money from the locals; they are currently proposing a scaled charge for resident parking permits based on how polluting the vehicle is (using official vehicle CO² ratings).

However, a 226+g/km car that could only be doing 1000 miles a year will be paying £300 per year, whereas the 55g/km car doing 15,000 miles per year will only pay £180 per year. Which is polluting more?

It's a flawed argument (not that this ever stops a Council) because a vehicle's pollution is based on emissions and distance (idling whilst parked is illegal). Both of these are already represented and taxed accordingly through Vehicle Tax and Fuel Duty/VAT. I can see the next move being to charge people parked in their own driveways and using "pollution" as the excuse. They already tried to charge businesses for letting staff park in their own private land. The massive kickback stopped it, but it could come back based on this excuse as well.

It's just another money grab under the guise of environmental concern. As can been seen with the LEZ zones, once one LA starts it the rest will not want to miss out.

I also remember it was a significant amount for me. However, I started looking for additional ways of income. I found this program and my life changed for the better. Now finances are not a problem for me.
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I completely agree that it's not really about emissions; it's just revenue. Real pollution should factor in actual usage, not just CO² ratings on paper!
 
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I live near an Elizabeth line station - we are told that resident parking permits are coming. The council said this a result of a consultation that neither I nor anyone I know has received. The price of each permit is £138 per annum.
 
Mr Bump said:
Pollution of a vehicle should always be taken into consideration on all these kind of charges.
more polluting vehicles are not welcome on our roads and owners need to know that.
hit them in the wallet.
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In that case, given the level of polution caused during the manufacture of electric cars, their owners should pay roughly twice as much as petrol cars...

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...source: https://earth.org/environmental-impact-of-battery-production/ :tumbleweed:
 
I avoid going anywhere that charges for parking , they can do without my money I would rather not subsidise what’s become a rip off racket
 
For us, it's significantly cheaper to drive into town and pay for parking than it is to get the bus. And if we take a bike, the parking is free!
 
Residential, shopping and day out parking aren't big problems for us at the moment other than faulty ticket machines which seem to be rife. I do worry about workplace parking though as at some businesses parking is very difficult and at one of my last workplaces people used to turn up two hours early to attempt to get a space. With many business on the edge I think that councils hammering parking too when there are no real alternatives just seems wrong. A doge able to cut council waste and corruption might be a better option.
 
We get the bus into town, its not worth the hassle trying to park and at one of the car parks privately owned people have been ticketed in error, we wont visit those shops because of the possibility of the hassle
 
LCPete said:
... we wont visit those shops because of the possibility of the hassle
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Get a bunch of people together, approach the out of town shops that have lots of parking and get them to fund posters and placards along the lines of "why pay to shop here?" and stand outside the town shops with them (or walk up and down to avoid discussions with the police). If you could keep such a campaign running for a few months, especially in November and December, you might persuade the people, who run the city shops, to get something done about the parking.

Just thinkin' out loud... :thinking:
 
never been bothered about town/city parking spent the last few years of working in courts always in town and city centre and its all pay
in manchester parking right outside the civil justice centre its like £8 for 4 hours just go with the flow if you want to be right there outside the shops it costs
 
Mr Bump said:
Folk are up in arms in my teeny town that the council are ramping up there charges for some areas that have parking permit zones to about £50/year.
Does anyone else have this?
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£108 in Richmond, 2nd car is £216 and 3rd is £324. Last year 2nd car was %50 above 1st car and 3rd was 100% more.... That's the orange lot.... When I came to Richmond the council charged based on emissions so my nice auto 9-5 Aero, very clean and great on the nitrous oxides (really nasty stuff) but not so good on carbon was £330 per annum - in 2009! 'low' polluters £60. Then the blue lot came in and everyone paid a blanket £60 for their first car, then 50% more for the 2nd and so on.

This is part of the drive to 'encourage' people to use public transport but LBRuT and Sadiq Can't have made busses inconvenient and unreliable.
 
Our council have histrionically had a lot resident permit parking all over the area. This has gone up year by year.
Some residents are having to pay £115 a year, just to park in the street outside there home. I think some of the residents have had enough and decided to park on neighboring streets where its free.
However on another view, in most towns within the councils area, town central car parking is free now after 3pm. The parking rates between 8am-3pm are crazy prices.
Then 3pm on-wards there is never a space to be seen after the first 30mintues as everyone parks and leaves there cars for hours, knowing its free. Its absolute carnage.

I think most councils are doing this for easy self revenue purposes only, as the Government are not increasing there money to a lot of councils around the country.
 
Darkroom_Processing said:
Our council have histrionically had a lot resident permit parking all over the area. This has gone up year by year.
Some residents are having to pay £115 a year, just to park in the street outside there home. I think some of the residents have had enough and decided to park on neighboring streets where its free.
However on another view, in most towns within the councils area, town central car parking is free now after 3pm. The parking rates between 8am-3pm are crazy prices.
Then 3pm on-wards there is never a space to be seen after the first 30mintues as everyone parks and leaves there cars for hours, knowing its free. Its absolute carnage.

I think most councils are doing this for easy self revenue purposes only, as the Government are not increasing there money to a lot of councils around the country.
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In parts of Glasgow including the City Centre they recently changed the free parking time from 6pm to 10pm. There really wasn't any need to do that, it's just a cash grab. Emissions based permits are spreading as well. It wouldn't surprise me if they end up charging people to park in their own driveways - using emissions and the environment as an excuse will pave the way for that. They previously tried to screw businesses out of their private parking spaces on private land, it was paused but still lurking.
 
gman said:
In parts of Glasgow including the City Centre they recently changed the free parking time from 6pm to 10pm. There really wasn't any need to do that, it's just a cash grab. Emissions based permits are spreading as well. It wouldn't surprise me if they end up charging people to park in their own driveways - using emissions and the environment as an excuse will pave the way for that. They previously tried to screw businesses out of their private parking spaces on private land, it was paused but still lurking.
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Bath is CAZ & has emissions based car park prices.

Bristol is just CAZ at the moment. Well, depending on which way the wind is blowing ;)
 
LeeRatters said:
Bath is CAZ & has emissions based car park prices.

Bristol is just CAZ at the moment. Well, depending on which way the wind is blowing ;)
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Letters have just gone out to a large district not too far from me advising residents of a Glasgow City Council consultation to bring in parking bays and emissions based charges in order to "prioritise resident parking" and of course deliver the transition to Net Zero.

A stream of replies from local residents have highlighted that there is no parking issues for local residents, only on perhaps one street. If it is to prioritise residents, then they should get free permits and only visitors should have to pay. Furthermore, as I've highlighted earlier here, emissions based parking permits is a flawed argument because mileage isn't taken into account.

It's just a cash grab and the whole Net Zero thing is an easy excuse to keep targeting motorists. If it was a genuine reason then cars in driveways should also have to pay, unless they are claiming that they somehow don't pollute? Also, EV's are charged, so how does that make sense?

Public transport here is not even close to being able to replace cars. I suspect the real reason for these constant cash grabs is because apparently 47% of council tax receipts in Glasgow go on their generous Defined Benefit pensions (UK average is 23.5%). Employee contributions are around 1/4. That's completely unsustainable and compared to the UK average, further highlights the problems with GCC.
 
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