Recreational drug use in the UK.

[andya700]

First of all, I hated using the word "recreational", because it could make the problem seem less dangerous than it really is. How many people know someone who uses Charlie/crack cocaine, because I have just read a thread on a well known women's forum and the author of the thread (in their late 20's), states that everyone she knows when she goes out for an evening, uses cocaine. I am 67 and haven't known any friends/relations who have used cocaine (some used weed, cannabis etc). I have never used any drugs and never had a desire to. I worked in a city firm in the mid 90's and one of the guys used to party with members of a famous London football team and said that many of them were snorting the white powder. Given that there is drug testing in many firms/professions, is drug use really that common?

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[munch]

First of all, I hated using the word "recreational", because it could make the problem seem less dangerous than it really is. How many people know someone who uses Charlie/crack cocaine, because I have just read a thread on a well known women's forum and the author of the thread (in their late 20's), states that everyone she knows when she goes out for an evening, uses cocaine. I am 67 and haven't known any friends/relations who have used cocaine (some used weed, cannabis etc). I have never used any drugs and never had a desire to. I worked in a city firm in the mid 90's and one of the guys used to party with members of a famous London football team and said that many of them were snorting the white powder. Given that there is drug testing in many firms/professions, is drug use really that common?

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From my own experiences I would say yes. When I was working our company, and many of the companies we worked with had random drug testing. No secret everybody knew there was random drug testing, yet almost every time they turned up someone would fail the test.

 

[Mr Bump]

when i was a younger person in a phase of maybe 22-25 i was very into the club scene and did take speed, some ecstasy and a very small amount of C but just moved away from it quite quickly as the clubs were getting very grim and way more crime, a few of my "friends" went deep and some all the way to H. I pretty much walked away from that group as it melted down.

since then i haven't touched one naughty thing but i still have a few loose friends that do it on a friday/saturday night and they are in there 50s doing a bit of C at the pub is now a thing. And also loads of them smoke weed or whatever synthetic crap it is now, one thing i do see a LOT now though is young people smoking drugs that seems to be everywhere in my neck of the woods.

as to random drug testing yes i have worked for instituted for sure that do it but most of the people i know that use just hold down random jobs and/or work for themselves.

 

[AndrewFlannigan]

As a non-smoking, moderate drinker, I am in favour of legalising and taxing all recreational drugs, none of which I use or have used.

I'd make them available only through currently licenced premises and I strongly suggest offering substantial rewards for turning in unlicenced vendors. History shows that banning anything simply puts the burden on the taxpayer, whether through the enforcement of laws or the provision of medical care. I think it's much better to tax and regulate.

 

[mj4456]

Up here not only is a safe space available to take drugs but the snp now want to offer testing facilities to ensure anything taken is ‘safe’! What next drink/drug driving lanes on the roads.

 

[seaodyssey]

Around our small neck of the woods, I can smell weed/ cannabis most nights, it's from the younger residents homes. We did have a couple that sat in their car to smoke it, they have moved away now.

 

[f/1.2]

Cocaine use is very widespread. See people either doing it or on it at pretty much every wedding we photograph.

So cheap these days. When I was younger I tried every drug that I could find. But stopped when we had our first kid. Addiction was never an issue for me, but have seen others whose life has completely spiraled out of control. Some of my friends still dabble a fair bit and hold down good jobs and have no issues. Guess they are the lucky few.

 

[Nod]

It would be quite revealing if everyone in Westminster Palace were made to undergo a spot drug test.

 

[gman]

As a non-smoking, moderate drinker, I am in favour of legalising and taxing all recreational drugs, none of which I use or have used.

I'd make them available only through currently licenced premises and I strongly suggest offering substantial rewards for turning in unlicenced vendors. History shows that banning anything simply puts the burden on the taxpayer, whether through the enforcement of laws or the provision of medical care. I think it's much better to tax and regulate.

I've also previously wondered if this would be a good way forward, but after watching a documentary on cannabis in America it seems to be experiencing quite a few issues. Of course it could be how they have gone about it, so I wouldn't be dismissing such a notion either.

Here's the start of the brief discussion about it: https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/t...political-thread.714357/page-982#post-9555517

 

[gman]

Cocaine use is very widespread. See people either doing it or on it at pretty much every wedding we photograph.

So cheap these days. When I was younger I tried every drug that I could find. But stopped when we had our first kid. Addiction was never an issue for me, but have seen others whose life has completely spiraled out of control. Some of my friends still dabble a fair bit and hold down good jobs and have no issues. Guess they are the lucky few.

I see a lot of it now, it's fairly easy to spot those using it, not to mention the revolving toilet door lol I can understand why marching powder is the drug of choice when out, it counters the drink and it's less of a commitment on the night, as opposed to pills.

From a safety point of view it's not so much the cocaine itself that worries me, but what it is being cut with. I'm hearing that you can be lucky to have as much as 5-10% cocaine (makes it seems like pretty poor value for money), the rest is unknown crap, most likely some MDMA or such but the rest..... I mind reading an article that there are three main products used to cut it with (dentist related I think) and they are harder to acquire than cocaine itself.

 

[nog]

Around our small neck of the woods, I can smell weed/ cannabis most nights, it's from the younger residents homes. We did have a couple that sat in their car to smoke it, they have moved away now.

Exactly the same here, walk through town and almost guaranteed to smell it whatever time of day. Rumour has it one of the pubs sells more drugs than the shop next door - Boots the chemist

 

[Mr Bump]

Exactly the same here, walk through town and almost guaranteed to smell it whatever time of day. Rumour has it one of the pubs sells more drugs than the shop next door - Boots the chemist

kids just wander the streets in my town openly smoking it, there are a few benches down the canal that have a booking system as there is a random druggie say there every minute

 

[f/1.2]

Maybe an age thing I don't really consider Cannabis to be a drug.

Drugs for me, are tablets and powder.

I smoked Cannabis from I was about 14 until I was about 28 pretty much everyday and had zero issues.

 

[munch]

Maybe an age thing I don't really consider Cannabis to be a drug.

Drugs for me, are tablets and powder.

I smoked Cannabis from I was about 14 until I was about 28 pretty much everyday and had zero issues.

Cannabis is a drug and does have an effect on the body (if it didn't have any effect on you, why take it) To what extent it has long lasting effects is difficult to quantify*, but what you can't state categorially is that it hasn't left you without any issues.

* In part because Cannabis is illegal (and people who take illegal drugs tend not to tell others about taking it)
It also difficult to quantify how much actual cannabis someone has taken.
Difficult to do controlled analysis, see above.

 

[onomatopoeia]

I use alcohol recreationally.
I also use diroximel fumarate, but that's not recreational in any sense of the word.

I don't care what people put in themselves and strongly believe it is no business of government or the police either, but the supplier should be licensed at all stages of the supply chain and strictly liable for the quality of the product supplied, just as is the case when hospitals buy heroin. They don't get it from a street corner dealer that smuggles it in to the country from Aghanistan.

 

[munch]

I use alcohol recreationally.
I also use diroximel fumarate, but that's not recreational in any sense of the word.

I don't care what people put in themselves and strongly believe it is no business of government or the police either, but the supplier should be licensed at all stages of the supply chain and strictly liable for the quality of the product supplied, just as is the case when hospitals buy heroin. They don't get it from a street corner dealer that smuggles it in to the country from Aghanistan.

So drink driving is OK?
Operating a train with drugs in your system is OK?
Tell me where would you draw the line?

The problem is substance abuse (be it alcohol or drugs etc) doesn't just have an impact on the individual, it effects friends, family and society as a whole.

 

[f/1.2]

Cannabis is a drug and does have an effect on the body (if it didn't have any effect on you, why take it) To what extent it has long lasting effects is difficult to quantify*, but what you can't state categorially is that it hasn't left you without any issues.

* In part because Cannabis is illegal (and people who take illegal drugs tend not to tell others about taking it)
It also difficult to quantify how much actual cannabis someone has taken.
Difficult to do controlled analysis, see above.

You should chill out. Maybe have a joint.

Cannabis is a plant not a pharmaceutical drug that has been engineered in a lab or went through a long process like Cocaine or Heroin..

For sure it has a different effect than say lettuce. You don’t get many people overdosing and dieing from Cannabis. For sure you get a lot less than overdose on alcohol and die.

I am gonna guess you’re a bit older maybe in your 60’s plus because drugs are talked about a lot. Pretty much everyone I know who still dabbles will spend an endless amount of time talking about it as well.

 

[f/1.2]

I use alcohol recreationally.
I also use diroximel fumarate, but that's not recreational in any sense of the word.

I don't care what people put in themselves and strongly believe it is no business of government or the police either, but the supplier should be licensed at all stages of the supply chain and strictly liable for the quality of the product supplied, just as is the case when hospitals buy heroin. They don't get it from a street corner dealer that smuggles it in to the country from Aghanistan.

I agree.

As a kid as I mentioned above I tried a lot of different types of illegal drugs including Cocaine, Ecstasy and pure MDMA, Speed, Ketamine, L.S.D both pharmaceutical and in mushroom form and tons of other stuff.

It would have been a lot safer if it hadn’t of needed to come from illegal sources. To be fair I was maybe just lucky but other than one time with some ridiculously strong Ketamine I never had any issues. Even then I didn’t have a health issue I just couldn’t move for about 2-3 hours.

I haven’t touched anything in near 20 years and just got bored with the whole scene plus I wouldn’t have drugs in a house with children. I also don’t drink a lot or keep a lot of alcohol in the house for the same reason.

It didn’t turn me into a raging alcoholic either and the only health issues I have ever had were nothing to do with drugs.

The government like to push a narrative that all drugs are bad and that you will become an addict and die but I never did. None of my friends ever did we all live very normal humdrum lives and I don’t believe any of my friend circle from back then has ever had any issues. Just like with alcohol some people for sure will become an alcoholic but not everyone will. Most illegal drugs of course are more dangerous than alcohol.

I only know one person personally who died from drugs and that was because he consumed 10 bad Ecstasy tablets in a short period of time. He was one of the local dealers at the time and was just an idiot.. I know a couple of people who had died because of alcohol abuse one was a neighbour and the other was a guy I used to work with.

Alcohol is accepted because it’s something that the government can easily tax. Cannabis for example isn’t because how can you tax something that people can grow in their back garden. The former prime minister for example has no issue with his wife making millions from exporting Cannabis grown in the U.K worldwide.

I am not advocating drug use btw and nor would I ever do it again. Been there done that and tbh had a great time but it doesn’t interest me anymore at all.

I do find that the laws are pretty useless and stupid especially when it comes to Cannabis when alcohol is much more dangerous..

 

[munch]

You should chill out. Maybe have a joint.

Cannabis is a plant not a pharmaceutical drug that has been engineered in a lab or went through a long process like Cocaine or Heroin..

For sure it has a different effect than say lettuce. You don’t get many people overdosing and dieing from Cannabis. For sure you get a lot less than overdose on alcohol and die.

I am gonna guess you’re a bit older maybe in your 60’s plus because drugs are talked about a lot. Pretty much everyone I know who still dabbles will spend an endless amount of time talking about it as well.

I am glad you appear to have come through taking drugs relatively unscathed. But don't try to tell me that there nothing wrong with taking cannabis. One the issues with it is that people often then move onto other drugs as you did.
I have helped out for several years with a drug outreach programme. I have seen what cannabis dependency can do.
There are many "functioning" drug dependents. I am not sure that makes it OK though.
You can dress it up any way you want to but cannabis is a drug, just because it comes from a plant and you can grow it yourself doesn't change anything.

 

[Mozthecat]

Around our small neck of the woods, I can smell weed/ cannabis most nights, it's from the younger residents homes. We did have a couple that sat in their car to smoke it, they have moved away now.

We thought that was happening round our street, turns out it’s an invasion of a plant called moss phlox that smells very similar.

 

[lindsay]

Opium comes from a plant. I had it once in the Far East as a teenager. I had an awful nightmarish experience.
I smoked cannabis joints a few times there and in Amsterdam. I had delusions and over-stimulation of the imagination. Thank god I wasn't driving or responsible for anything other than myself.
Drugs are bad news. Sure some people don't harm themselves long term, but they can harm others permanently.

 

[gman]

That reminds me of another non-synthesised or engineered drug; magic mushrooms!

 

[gman]

Opium comes from a plant. I had it once in the Far East as a teenager. I had an awful nightmarish experience.
I smoked cannabis joints a few times there and in Amsterdam. I had delusions and over-stimulation of the imagination. Thank god I wasn't driving or responsible for anything other than myself.
Drugs are bad news. Sure some people don't harm themselves long term, but they can harm others permanently.

I wonder what would be worse when driving, being under the influence or being severely overtired... presumably it would depend on what you are under the influence of, but I wonder where the commonly agreed threhold would be?

 

[JohnMcL7]

I've wondered how common cocaine use is after watching a number of police programs where I've been surprised when conducting drug swipes on drivers, the results commonly show both cannabis and cocaine. The program isn't a representative sample but it does suggest use of cocaine is higher than I thought but I've never even seen anyone taking it never mind anyone I knew taking it.

I wonder what would be worse when driving, being under the influence or being severely overtired... presumably it would depend on what you are under the influence of, but I wonder where the commonly agreed threhold would be?

5th gear did a test a while back where they had one group have some alcohol (not a huge amount, two or three pints I think) and the other group had very limited sleep the night before. All the drivers took part in two tests with one simulating driving around town with pedestrians walking out (not actual people) and then the other test simulated driving on a motorway at night with the car counting how many times they drifted out of lane. Around town, the tired drivers did well but the other group performed poorly with slow reactions which meant some hit the simulated pedestrians or struggled with manoeuvres, On the motorway at night test though which was round a high speed bowl circuit it was the other way round with the tired drivers not just making a number of mistakes drifting out of lane but they were shocked when they were shown how often they'd drifted and not realised it.

 

[the black fox]

Go to show this is a CRACKing forum .. only ever puffed a few joints but never took to it .. some work colleagues once slipped a lsd in my beer worst experience of my life next day , but these day I don’t smoke and don’t drink just lead a boring life .
But my oldest daughter used to e a estate manager at a well know royal establishement and I was surprised at the amount of drug use and heavy swearing that goes on away from public eyes by our ruling classes

 

[f/1.2]

I am glad you appear to have come through taking drugs relatively unscathed. But don't try to tell me that there nothing wrong with taking cannabis. One the issues with it is that people often then move onto other drugs as you did.
I have helped out for several years with a drug outreach programme. I have seen what cannabis dependency can do.
There are many "functioning" drug dependents. I am not sure that makes it OK though.
You can dress it up any way you want to but cannabis is a drug, just because it comes from a plant and you can grow it yourself doesn't change anything.

Actually I didn’t the first drug I tried was Ecstasy. Same with all of my mates at the time as well. Ecstasy was a lot cheaper and provided a significantly better high. Back then an oz of grass would maybe do me a week and would cost around £140 or you could buy an oz of old school resin for about £50. An Ecstasy tablet was £2 or if bought in bulk as little as £1.

I know lots of people that smoke Cannabis on a daily basis. Vast majority have never tried any other illegal drugs. It’s a different type of high depending on if it’s Sativa or Indica based plant. Lots of people enjoy being stoned which is very different to being high and more akin to being drunk. If it’s a Sativa based plant then that will get you high but not to anywhere near the same extent as say Ecstasy, Cocaine, Speed etc. People that enjoy being stoned generally don’t like drugs like Ecstasy and Cocaine as they want the exact opposite.

Their are also lots of people who use both legal and illegal Cannabis as pain relief, to reduce seizures ease the effects of things like Parkinson’s, Cancer and MS etc. None of them are jumping to smoking Crack.

Cannabis is a lot less dangerous than Alcohol yet it is completely legal, because it’s very easily taxed. In most countries were Cannabis is legal there is a much lower level of usage if more dangerous drugs. In California for example Crack, Heroin and PCP use dropped significantly so your theory doesn’t really hold much water. It just sounds like the nonsense the U.K government like to spout. While the former prime ministers wife makes millions growing Cannabis in the U.K and exporting to other countries.

Cannabis is not a drug it is something that occurs naturally in nature. It’s not made in a lab or brewed.

 

[Mr Bump]

@f/2.8 not sure i would support your statement of "Cannabis is a lot less dangerous than Alcohol yet it is completely legal" the fact that it is generally consumed smoked with tobacco makes it very dangerous to the individual from a lung/smoking related cancers.

from google AI

Physical health risks

• Respiratory problems: Smoking cannabis irritates the lungs and can cause a chronic cough, phlegm production, and bronchitis. It deposits several times more tar into the lungs than tobacco smoke. Long-term use may also increase the risk of lung infections and weaken the immune system.
• Cancer: While more research is needed, some studies have linked long-term cannabis smoking with an increased risk of certain cancers, particularly lung, head, and neck cancers. The cancer risk is compounded for those who also mix cannabis with tobacco.
• Cardiovascular issues: Cannabis use can increase your heart rate by 20 to 50 beats per minute, putting extra strain on the heart. This increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, especially for individuals with pre-existing heart disease.
• Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome (CHS): Some long-term, heavy users can develop CHS, a condition that causes recurrent, intense nausea, vomiting, and abdominal pain. The only known cure is to stop using cannabis.

Mental health risks

• Addiction: Regular cannabis use can lead to addiction, known as cannabis use disorder. The risk of developing an addiction is higher for those who start using it in their teenage years or use it daily. Withdrawal symptoms can include irritability, sleep problems, and cravings.
• Psychosis: Research has consistently linked cannabis use to an increased risk of psychotic illness, such as schizophrenia. The risk is highest for those who start using high-potency cannabis frequently and at a younger age.
• Anxiety and depression: While some use cannabis to self-medicate for anxiety or depression, it can worsen these conditions over time. The effects vary depending on the individual, the potency, and the dose.
• Impaired cognition: Cannabis can cause temporary issues with concentration, memory, and judgment. For adolescents, whose brains are still developing, heavy, long-term use can cause permanent cognitive impairments, including a potential drop in IQ.

Risks for young people

• Brain development: The adolescent brain, particularly the prefrontal cortex responsible for decision-making and impulse control, is still developing until the mid-20s. Cannabis use during this period can interfere with brain maturation and is linked to poorer academic performance and social withdrawal.
• Higher addiction risk: Young people who use cannabis are more vulnerable to developing a cannabis use disorder than adults.

Other dangers

• Impaired driving: THC, the active compound in cannabis, impairs coordination, reaction time, and judgment, making driving dangerous. Many jurisdictions have a zero-tolerance approach to drug driving, with strict legal limits for THC in the blood.
• Reproductive health: Cannabis use can cause a temporary loss of fertility in both men and women. Using it during pregnancy is linked to lower birth weight and can impact the baby's neurodevelopment.
• Unknown potency: Illegally sourced cannabis products can have variable and often high levels of THC, increasing the risk of negative side effects like anxiety, panic attacks, and paranoia.
• Contaminants: Unregulated cannabis can be contaminated with pesticides, heavy metals, or other harmful substances. If mixed with tobacco, it carries the additional health risks associated with nicotine.

 

[f/1.2]

@f/2.8 not sure i would support your statement of "Cannabis is a lot less dangerous than Alcohol yet it is completely legal" the fact that it is generally consumed smoked with tobacco makes it very dangerous to the individual from a lung/smoking related cancers.

from google AI

Physical health risks

• Respiratory problems: Smoking cannabis irritates the lungs and can cause a chronic cough, phlegm production, and bronchitis. It deposits several times more tar into the lungs than tobacco smoke. Long-term use may also increase the risk of lung infections and weaken the immune system.
• Cancer: While more research is needed, some studies have linked long-term cannabis smoking with an increased risk of certain cancers, particularly lung, head, and neck cancers. The cancer risk is compounded for those who also mix cannabis with tobacco.
• Cardiovascular issues: Cannabis use can increase your heart rate by 20 to 50 beats per minute, putting extra strain on the heart. This increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, especially for individuals with pre-existing heart disease.
• Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome (CHS): Some long-term, heavy users can develop CHS, a condition that causes recurrent, intense nausea, vomiting, and abdominal pain. The only known cure is to stop using cannabis.

Mental health risks

• Addiction: Regular cannabis use can lead to addiction, known as cannabis use disorder. The risk of developing an addiction is higher for those who start using it in their teenage years or use it daily. Withdrawal symptoms can include irritability, sleep problems, and cravings.
• Psychosis: Research has consistently linked cannabis use to an increased risk of psychotic illness, such as schizophrenia. The risk is highest for those who start using high-potency cannabis frequently and at a younger age.
• Anxiety and depression: While some use cannabis to self-medicate for anxiety or depression, it can worsen these conditions over time. The effects vary depending on the individual, the potency, and the dose.
• Impaired cognition: Cannabis can cause temporary issues with concentration, memory, and judgment. For adolescents, whose brains are still developing, heavy, long-term use can cause permanent cognitive impairments, including a potential drop in IQ.

Risks for young people

• Brain development: The adolescent brain, particularly the prefrontal cortex responsible for decision-making and impulse control, is still developing until the mid-20s. Cannabis use during this period can interfere with brain maturation and is linked to poorer academic performance and social withdrawal.
• Higher addiction risk: Young people who use cannabis are more vulnerable to developing a cannabis use disorder than adults.

Other dangers

• Impaired driving: THC, the active compound in cannabis, impairs coordination, reaction time, and judgment, making driving dangerous. Many jurisdictions have a zero-tolerance approach to drug driving, with strict legal limits for THC in the blood.
• Reproductive health: Cannabis use can cause a temporary loss of fertility in both men and women. Using it during pregnancy is linked to lower birth weight and can impact the baby's neurodevelopment.
• Unknown potency: Illegally sourced cannabis products can have variable and often high levels of THC, increasing the risk of negative side effects like anxiety, panic attacks, and paranoia.
• Contaminants: Unregulated cannabis can be contaminated with pesticides, heavy metals, or other harmful substances. If mixed with tobacco, it carries the additional health risks associated with nicotine.

I don’t need to rely on A.I I can rely on my own experience. These days anyway most people don’t smoke cannabis they vaporize it, vape it and eat it. Only older people smoke Cannabis. Gummies for example are far and away the most popular with younger people.

Pull up the figures using your A.I if you like around how may people died from Cannabis abuse last year and how many died from Alcohol abuse.

 

[Mr Bump]

I don’t need to rely on A.I I can rely on my own experience. These days anyway most people don’t smoke cannabis they vaporize it, vape it and eat it. Only older people smoke Cannabis.

Pull up the figures using your A.I if you like around how may people died from Cannabis abuse last year and how many died from Alcohol abuse.

No one mentioned Alcohol in here, just drugs, I simply dispute your statement and so does evidence,

 

[f/1.2]

No one mentioned Alcohol in here, just drugs, I simply dispute your statement and so does evidence,

Pull up the same for Alcohol you are not comparing the two.

You said you dispute that Cannabis is safer than alcohol but then don’t want to talk about the impact of alcohol.

Even A.I says I am right and you are wrong.

 

[munch]

Cannabis is not a drug it is something that occurs naturally in nature. It’s not made in a lab or brewed.

Care to show me any credible literature that says Cannabis is not drug? Yes we know it comes from a plant.
A lot of drugs (medicines) come from plants

Cannabis is a class B Drug under the misuse of Drugs Act 1971. Tells me all I need to know.

As for Cannabis not causing harm.
https://www.priorygroup.com/addiction-treatment/cannabis-addiction/cannabis-use-statistics

 

[gman]

@f/2.8 not sure i would support your statement of "Cannabis is a lot less dangerous than Alcohol yet it is completely legal" the fact that it is generally consumed smoked with tobacco makes it very dangerous to the individual from a lung/smoking related cancers.

No one mentioned Alcohol in here, just drugs, I simply dispute your statement and so does evidence,

It had been mentioned over 18 times prior to your post; you even quoted him referring to it. Well....at least you are in the right thread! haha

 

[gman]

Actually I didn’t the first drug I tried was Ecstasy. Same with all of my mates at the time as well. Ecstasy was a lot cheaper and provided a significantly better high. Back then an oz of grass would maybe do me a week and would cost around £140 or you could buy an oz of old school resin for about £50. An Ecstasy tablet was £2 or if bought in bulk as little as £1.

Perhaps we are different ages, but back in my late teens it was about £20 for one E and it would last for most of the night. Fast forward a few decades and now I believe they are similar to the prices you say, even 50p per pill. But from what I've been told you need to take a load of them at a time, which makes me think they are less pure and full of crap now - a bit like the marching powder I guess.

 

[f/1.2]

Perhaps we are different ages, but back in my late teens it was about £20 for one E and it would last for most of the night. Fast forward a few decades and now I believe they are similar to the prices you say, even 50p per pill. But from what I've been told you need to take a load of them at a time, which makes me think they are less pure and full of crap now - a bit like the marching powder I guess.

Yeah tbf I think they were about £15 when I was younger but before I stopped they were only £2 each or 50 for £50 should have said that.

 

[f/1.2]

Care to show me any credible literature that says Cannabis is not drug? Yes we know it comes from a plant.
A lot of drugs (medicines) come from plants

Cannabis is a class B Drug under the misuse of Drugs Act 1971. Tells me all I need to know.

As for Cannabis not causing harm.
https://www.priorygroup.com/addiction-treatment/cannabis-addiction/cannabis-use-statistics

Have a look at what alcohol is doing to you then compare the two. It’s very clear which is more dangerous.

You are trying to be pedantic in my other post as I said “ FOR ME” Cannabis is not a drug.

 

[munch]

Have a look at what alcohol is doing to you then compare the two. It’s very clear which is more dangerous.

You are trying to be pedantic in my other post as I said “ FOR ME” Cannabis is not a drug.

#26

Cannabis is not a drug it is something that occurs naturally in nature. It’s not made in a lab or brewed.

No mention of "for me". and your post #26 was the post I referenced.
Maybe, cannabis is having an impact on you. (One of the side effects of long term use is memory loss.)

I thought we were discussing cannabis? Of course other drugs can have a "worse" effect on the body, but that is not what my posts are about.

 

[tikkathreebarrel]

Around our small neck of the woods, I can smell weed/ cannabis most nights, it's from the younger residents homes. We did have a couple that sat in their car to smoke it, they have moved away now.

The end of my working life was spent in job centres and at times the stench was appalling. At one location I used to ask out loud for claimants to check the soles of their shoes because, to me at least, it smelled like something a goose would leave behind for people to walk in. Yuk!

 

[f/1.2]

#26

No mention of "for me". and your post #26 was the post I referenced.
Maybe, cannabis is having an impact on you. (One of the side effects of long term use is memory loss.)

I thought we were discussing cannabis? Of course other drugs can have a "worse" effect on the body, but that is not what my posts are about.

Read post 13 Mr.Pedantic

Your post makes no sense whatsoever what have you been smoking or sniffing.

 

[f/1.2]

The end of my working life was spent in job centres and at times the stench was appalling. At one location I used to ask out loud for claimants to check the soles of their shoes because, to me at least, it smelled like something a goose would leave behind for people to walk in. Yuk!

I quite like the dank smell of high quality ganja tbh. Brings back loads of great memories and times spent with friends.

 

[gman]

Yeah tbf I think they were about £15 when I was younger but before I stopped they were only £2 each or 50 for £50 should have said that.

I don't think I could trust an E at £1 lol