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Guys I have 2 x Profoto B1 heads and I want to add another head but I’m thinking of getting a Godex head to use as a main light and use the Profotos as Fill and backlight. My question is how can I fire all three lights using the Profoto trigger?
 
I dont use Profoto, but I suspect you could fire them in slave mode with optical slave firing. I have my doubts about the wireless. I'm sure someone will know properly though.
 
I have no experience of your kit, I won't pay current prices for Godox, let alone for Profoto . . .

But I see that Godox has a X2T trigger https://www.lencarta.com/godox-x2t-ttl-hss-bluetooth-wireless-2-4ghz-trigger that has a pass-through hotshoe on the top. This should allow you to fit it to your camera hotshoe and then to plug the Profoto trigger into it.

Or, as @troutfisher suggests, you can use the Godox head in slave mode, which should almost always work. The sensor will need to see the flash from one of your Profoto flashes, and the only time that this becomes unreliable is if the sensor is hidden by a large softbox or beauty dish, or if the light is severely restricted, e.g. by a honeycomb.
 
As there doesn’t appear to be a profoto receiver you could plug into the Godox flash, Garry appears to have given your 2 options. (Just thought of some others)

As per @Garry Edwards post

Either a Godox transmitter with a pass through (though it might take some research to discover whether this is 100% reliable (I’ve never tried a pass thru to fire another brand).

Optical Slave mode can work fine, let’s face it, it’s how we used to work in the old days, just wiring 1 flash and relying on the slave.

The other options also won’t give TTL or HSS…
Either a set of completely dumb triggers, easy and cheap, you can probably still use your Profoto Air remote to set your power.

Or a pair of Godox receivers to plug into the Profoto heads. The Godox transmitter won’t be able to change the power of the Profotos (you can retain that as above).
 
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Thanks for the feedback..............I also don't want to buy another Profoto, when I look back and see what I paid for all that gear 5 years ago it makes me cringe. Ive been banging it around in my head to try and get a rental space to set up a permanent studio but Fon thinks it crazy (she's probably right) because right now were are doing any studio stuff either in my bedroom, dining room and the last one in the living room...............yes its a pain in the a** to bring the backdrop out and to set up the lights but in reality it only takes 5 minutes max.

This shot below I took in my dining room with a 1.2 mt strip box hanging over Fons head as a hair light a beauty dish in front and above at about a 20° from camera and a silver reflector in front on the floor (I shot this in TTL) ...........I love the way this turned out accept there isn't enough light on Fons arms so I guess I need to rethink where to put the reflector as I really don't want to buy another light
Ohh I also had the defuser on the silver beauty dish
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That's a nice shot, you're getting there:)
Would you need more light on her arms if you cropped a little tighter (only just included her right arm, or most of it, in the shot? I don't think so, her arms are very much a secondary part of the shot



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As for setting up a dedicated studio, that would be nice to have but expensive, most of the amateur photographers who do that end up with a lot of equipment that only helps them to tackle more ambitious projects but which doesn't help them to improve the quality of their work, although of course there are exceptions to that.

We can all do a lot with just a very small space and very basic equipment - see the lighting challenges - because knowledge and care always trumps gear and space.
 
Just to add another option to the mixed use of Godox and Profoto - you could get a Godox Receiver, and plug the Profoto trigger into that.
This avoids the question of if the pass-through is reliable (and allows you to chose one of the other Godox triggers if you prefer), and avoids stacking triggers on your hot-shoe - BUT there is the risk that this causes the Profoto lights to fire fractionally after the Godox light, so you might need to drop your shutter speed a touch to allow for this.
 
If you buy a Godox X2T_ flash transmitter to fire the Godox light, it has a pass thru hot shoe on top of it. You can then stack your Profoto transmitter on top of of the X2T_ and control and fire both brands. I did this back when doing experiments with Godox to see if I wanted to change all of my old flash equipment over to Godox. I could use both brands at the same time. It proved to me that Godox lights and controls were far more reliable than my old lights and control system, and I began buying Godox lights and transmitters as fast as my budget would allow to replace everything that I had been using. This was about 4 years ago and I haven't looked back. Both my studio and field kit are 100% Godox/Flashpoint now. (Flashpoint is rebranded Godox, sold by Adorama in NYC.) I think there is a rebrand available in your country too, but I don't know the name.

Charley
 
If you buy a Godox X2T_ flash transmitter to fire the Godox light, it has a pass thru hot shoe on top of it. You can then stack your Profoto transmitter on top of of the X2T_ and control and fire both brands. I did this back when doing experiments with Godox to see if I wanted to change all of my old flash equipment over to Godox. I could use both brands at the same time. It proved to me that Godox lights and controls were far more reliable than my old lights and control system, and I began buying Godox lights and transmitters as fast as my budget would allow to replace everything that I had been using. This was about 4 years ago and I haven't looked back. Both my studio and field kit are 100% Godox/Flashpoint now. (Flashpoint is rebranded Godox, sold by Adorama in NYC.) I think there is a rebrand available in your country too, but I don't know the name.

Charley
Good to know this does work - it's always tricky with pass-through on how reliable it is.

Godox in the UK is rebranded by Essential Photo as PixaPro (I think they also rebrand stuff by other manufacturers as PixaPro, so a PixaPro softbox might not be made by Godox, for example).
 
Just be sure to use the X2T that is designed to work with your camera. The _ in my post following X2T is used to designate the brand of camera that the transmitter is designed to work with. A "c" in this position means that it is designed to work with Canon Cameras. An "n" designates Nikon, "f" designates Fuji, etc.

Charley
 
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