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Hi Everybody

Does anyone know how the photographers that you always see at sports events on TV get access, Is there some kind of Supreme Overlords of Sports Photography club that you have to be a member of or do you need to work for a certain magazine/newspaper/other media

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I have always wondered
 
Hi Everybody

Does anyone know how the photographers that you always see at sports events on TV get access, Is there some kind of Supreme Overlords of Sports Photography club that you have to be a member of or do you need to work for a certain magazine/newspaper/other media

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I have always wondered

They won't accredit you unless you work for a genuine, established media outlet.

I don't know a lot about this; jamesb84 or one of the other sports photographers here would probably be able to give a better answer!
 
Right, Be right back, going to get good at photography and somehow get into a job at some form of publication!:D

I presume it would have to be a reputable publication, or people would be registering sports media companies all too often?
 
Most of them work for agencies like PA, Reuters or AP, then you have the regional agenicies like Newsteam, North News and pictures or South West News, then some work for the national and local press (I used to do Villa when I worked for the Birmingham Post.)

There may be an odd one who works independently, but they are few and far between as an agency like Reuters will have several snappers at a big game, and getting something different is very difficult.
 
Most of them work for agencies like PA, Reuters or AP, then you have the regional agenicies like Newsteam, North News and pictures or South West News, then some work for the national and local press (I used to do Villa when I worked for the Birmingham Post.)

There may be an odd one who works independently, but they are few and far between as an agency like Reuters will have several snappers at a big game, and getting something different is very difficult.

You forgot Getty, which seems to cover everything.
 
Hmm.. Seems that getting into one of those sports events will be nigh on impossible, a man can dream though
 
Right, Be right back, going to get good at photography and somehow get into a job at some form of publication!:D

I presume it would have to be a reputable publication, or people would be registering sports media companies all too often?

Firstly you need to get upto a decent standard, then you need to build up a portfolio of images, park or sunday league football to start, or if your very lucky one of the lower league clubs may take you on.

Once you have a stronger portfolio you can try approaching the numerous agencies, but be thick skinned and prepared for plenty of rejection. Sports Photography is uber competitive, imho THE most competitive discipline in Photography.

Keep at it and if your serious about it and keep asking people for a chance (in the right way) then eventually you will get an opportunity to prove yourself.
 
Aye, I'm nowhere near good enough, I was just wondering what its like trying to get into it
 
Hi Everybody

Does anyone know how the photographers that you always see at sports events on TV get access, Is there some kind of Supreme Overlords of Sports Photography club that you have to be a member of or do you need to work for a certain magazine/newspaper/other media

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I have always wondered

So I get an early night and then someone asks "THE" question.... :D

Rory, you've perhaps opened the biggest can of worms you've ever opened, bigger than if you worked in the quality control can opening department of a worm canning factory!

There are a couple of ways you can get access to the sporting events on TV. Between us on Talk Photography I think we've done them all!

I'll start firstly with your "Supreme Overlords club"...I might recommend a name change to that actually, I like it. One of the largest organisations for sports photographers is the Sports Journalists Association. They don't actually accredit you, but as a large organisation composed entirely of Sports Journalists and Photographers, they often have some handy info for you applying to events...for example, they reminded me the other day that accreditation for the 2012 Olympics opened last week.

Now, it should be mentioned that being a member of this association relies on you already being at the standard required for top-level sports photography, there are some requirements that need to be met before they'll allow you to be a member.

As for your question about how to become a sports photographer, as Andy has already said, it's the most competitive area of photography around...after all, who wouldn't want to sit on the touchlines of a World Cup final, for free and then get paid for it! As a result, you need to be producing consistently good images in all conditions and lighting. These images need to be captioned, edited, processed and sent off to your employer on a strict deadline.

That's just to be a good sports photographer...to be really successful, you need to be doing all that, and then looking for something different, a new perspective on the game and trying to find a way to photograph that, you also need to be satisfying your employers and whatever other demands they put on you (they may want one particular player, a sponsor may want shots of their adverts etc.)

So we've established that you need to be VERY good.

Now, if you want to get into this there are a number of suggested methods...

1. Get a job with a newspaper. This is perhaps the least entertaining prospect as in between football matches (which will always be fairly few and far between) you'll have to photograph cheque presentations and village fetes. Plus, jobs (especially photographer jobs) with a newspaper are like rocking horse excrement.

2. Get a job with a football club. This is the first of two "slow-burn" strategies. Firstly you need to get out to the park or sunday league boys, every week and photograph it (ideally posting some shots up here for critique) until you improve and can photograph a game with your eyes closed standing on your head. Then you can approach a club (ie. Elgin City - I'm not sure just how North East of Scotland you are - Scottish third is a good starting point) and see if they're interested. They may not be able to pay you, but you'll get into the ground and photograph the games. You then have two choices...you can either try and work your way up the leagues with different clubs or you can approach agencies, or...if your team is successful and gets promoted, you can ask for money when they've got a bit more - Ross County are a good example to follow here...they've had very quick success!

3. Get a job with an agency. This is very similar to the "get a job with a football club" approach...except it's an agency. You'll need to do the same thing with Sunday League stuff, but build a good portfolio to show agencies. Shots need to be technically excellent (ie. in focus, properly exposed) and show your best abilities as a photographer. There would need to be some celebration shots, some general action shots and some "context shots" and these all need to be in both daylight and floodlit. A commissioning editor needs to know they can get results from you in any conditions.
As Andy says, you'll get knocked back a lot, but persevere and you might get lucky! Oh, and don't go for the big agencies first...never run before you can walk.

If you've got any questions you can PM me (or any of the other guys who've chipped in here)...until we get a "sports talk section"...then it can be discussed in there! :D
 
Excellent response James, I don't think I could add anything to that!
 
Some excellent advice given already but I'll just add another tip.

You must have the correct equipment. No point saying "if I get a job I'll buy it". If an opportunity comes your way and you don't have the right cameras lens etc it may just pass you by. Pro bodies are a must with f2.8 lenses. Make sure you have wide (24mm) - tele (min 300mm) plus converters (just in case).Laptop with dongle (although many stadiums now have their own wifi). Ability to edit/caption & ftp images while keeping one eye on the action is a must! Once you are setup the rest is a piece of cake! :shake:
 
Some excellent advice given already but I'll just add another tip.

You must have the correct equipment. No point saying "if I get a job I'll buy it". If an opportunity comes your way and you don't have the right cameras lens etc it may just pass you by. Pro bodies are a must with f2.8 lenses. Make sure you have wide (24mm) - tele (min 300mm) plus converters (just in case).Laptop with dongle (although many stadiums now have their own wifi). Ability to edit/caption & ftp images while keeping one eye on the action is a must! Once you are setup the rest is a piece of cake! :shake:

Yes indeed...Graham is correct. One of the best skills I learned very quickly is being able to identify players by their hair, boots or other defining features, caption the shots, send them and keep watching the game at the same time.

Being ambidextrous is a definite advantage!
 
Yes indeed...Graham is correct. One of the best skills I learned very quickly is being able to identify players by their hair, boots or other defining features, caption the shots, send them and keep watching the game at the same time.

Being ambidextrous is a definite advantage!

When you caption a shot, what info do you need to add to the file. Is it just the name of the player and the team. Also do you abbreviate?
 
When you caption a shot, what info do you need to add to the file. Is it just the name of the player and the team. Also do you abbreviate?

I have a huge code replacement system set up in Photo Mechanic.

It has player, team and manager replacements, as well as some common phrases such as "is tackled by".

so the code replacement:

/bs5/ /t/ /ml7/ would become:
Bristol City's Damion Stewart (L) is tackled by Millwall's Danny Schofield.

My complete caption would be:

Bristol City's Damion Stewart (L) is tackled by Millwall's Danny Schofield during the NPower Championship match at Ashton Gate, Bristol on Saturday 7th August 2010.
James Benwell/"The Agency"

No abbreviations...not even the team. Also, caption the players from left to right as they appear in the image.
 
Also helps if you have 10 pairs of eyes, especially when sitting by the touchlines at some stadiums were you appear to be a ball magnet!

VILLA PARK!!!! I always seem to get hit there. In the corner by the tunnel is my nemesis.
 
VILLA PARK!!!! I always seem to get hit there. In the corner by the tunnel is my nemesis.

Try Scunthorpe United! Against Leceicester City season before last two players sliding towards me and I had about 2secs to decide camera or laptop to save. In the end I just shut my eyes and prayed. Same ground last season I watched a photographer get knocked of their stool and laptop sent flying in the air as a result of a tackle sliding into them. I've also had physio on my right hand after fending of the ball from a very meaty clearance. And yes Villa Park in front of the away fans can be a bit dodgy too!
 
Well I've been an accredited photographer at event filmed for or show live on TV and I do not work for any media outlet, nor do I work for an agency.

Of course these were not football, but other sports events. The OP did not specify what type of sport he was interested in :thinking:
 
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Try Scunthorpe United! Against Leceicester City season before last two players sliding towards me and I had about 2secs to decide camera or laptop to save. In the end I just shut my eyes and prayed. Same ground last season I watched a photographer get knocked of their stool and laptop sent flying in the air as a result of a tackle sliding into them. I've also had physio on my right hand after fending of the ball from a very meaty clearance. And yes Villa Park in front of the away fans can be a bit dodgy too!

Worst one I've seen was KIPAX at Bloomfield Road when Preston scored against Blackpool last season.
 
Well I've been an accredited photographer at event filmed for or show live on TV and I do not work for any media outlet, nor do I work for an agency.

Of course these were not football, but other sports events. The OP did not specify what type of sport he was interested in :thinking:

Mark...please. It's getting a bit tiresome now. Have you been at the European Athletics Championships? Olympics? IAAF Diamond League meets?

Most of the guys there are agency or other publication. I think the inference by "shown on TV" is the high-level events such as those above, or football/rugby/cricket/F1/Wimbledon
 
What James and Graham said :D

I took option two in James's list and by getting to know guys at the games managed to get my foot in the door. Networking once your at events is very important IMO, you need to make sure you act professionally and obey all of the unwritten rules of FOOTBALL/RUGBY/CRICKET photography.

Very easy to get a reputation as an arse, also it will take a while for people to get to know you so don't worry if people aren't too friendly to begin with
 
You could of course contact Dave at http://www.dah.co.uk i'm pretty sure he'll welcome you on board with open arms :lol:

Worked with Dave doing the Marathon Photos, got on great with him! Told me loads about football, pity I don't like football and don't wish to photo it! His techie bits, tagging photos/wiring them etc were very interesting and a comical guy!

Carl.
 
Of course these were not football, but other sports events. The OP did not specify what type of sport he was interested in :thinking:

The replies do seem to be football related... I have only just seen this thread and suprised it took so long to point this out.

Sorry to go against the vien here but there are lots of sports events you can get into ....dare i say....just like that! and I am not talking park sports with one man and his dog there...
 
Very easy to get a reputation as an arse, also it will take a while for people to get to know you so don't worry if people aren't too friendly to begin with

You can also get one for doing nothing wrong.. or maybe making a mistake.. If someone is bitter and twisted enough to spend a couple of yrs on the internet spreading stories and then feel confident enough to whisper stuff live to others at games.. Enough people about to believe anything they are told...

True :(
 
I gave the answer to the OP which was "how can you get to be where the photographers are on TV"...the advice I gave I feel is equally applicable to the Olympics, Wimbledon, Super Bowl, Formula 1, World Cup Final etc.

With my post...feel free to substitute the word "football club" with whichever other sport you wish. The advice is generic and I think suitable for anyone who wants to be a pro sports photographer.

By all means go off and photograph athletics every weekend, but if you turn to an agency and say "well, i've done loads of athletics but never any football" you might not get as far. Simply because, it's football that brings in a lot of money.
 
The advice is generic and I think suitable for anyone who wants to be a pro sports photographer..

I agree... No ones having a dig or disputing the advice.. But its not such a closed shop and you most certainly dont have to be part of an agency or media.
My comments aimed at the whole thread and the way its practically saying no chance .. Deep breath my friend :)
 
Tony is this the famed Dell trample episode??:D.

Going back to the OP's, I've seen this a bit late!, a bit like a few of my footy action pics :D, & James/Andy et al have covered the bases!. Try to get to known the local papers editor/sports fella. (DON'T OFFER FOR FREE!). ask him to put you on the list if the staffers or freelace regulars can't cover (not often but shows willing!). As pointed out by Andy cover the lower leagues & submit for publication to the NLF papers (PM if you require a template for Invoice purposes?) also make sure you have PL insurance if league is of any national relevance!. Kind regards Graham
 
You can also get one for doing nothing wrong.. or maybe making a mistake.. If someone is bitter and twisted enough to spend a couple of yrs on the internet spreading stories and then feel confident enough to whisper stuff live to others at games.. Enough people about to believe anything they are told...

True :(
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By all means go off and photograph athletics every weekend, but if you turn to an agency and say "well, i've done loads of athletics but never any football" you might not get as far. Simply because, it's football that brings in a lot of money.

Formula1? I'm thinking Sutton seems to get a lot of shots into the papers (plus gets to go to exotic warm places).
 
A LA our friend who is currently banned from at least 3 photography forums using at least 2 aliases

Yup.. At least people on TP take other people as they find them in real life... thats the way to do it :)
 
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