Problem with icc profile after monitor calibration

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Ok, i finally invested in monitor calibration device (colormunki display) and went ahead with calibration of my laptop and the main screen. The calibration process created two new icc profiles, one for each monitor (i am assuming the software actually applies these two at the same time, one to each monitor?). This is all fine. however, I am now looking at the pictures i edited before, on my C drive, and they look overly contrasty with very dark shadows. This confused me. So I went back to Capture One. The image looks good on the screen while editing, then I exported using sRGB and came out very contrasty (monitor still set to new custom profile). From this I gathered that it must be the difference between the sRGB and the custom profiles. So I went back to Capture One again, and this time exported using the custom profile. Exported image look good. My questions I have now:

1) Why do sRGB images look poor when viewed using custom profile?

2) What is the way forward? Should I be exporting using sRGB? it will look bad viewed on my C drive, but hopefully good when uploaded on internet?

3) If I need to use sRGB for export, I will see all the images on my C drive over-contrasty, all the time. Surely this is not a way to go. What is the way to go?

4) If I export in custom profile, it will look good on my C drive, but how will other see it when uploaded somewhere?

EDIT: Just noticed that during export I can select a profile called "sRGB display profile with display hardware configuration data derived from calibration". When exported using this image also looks ok on my C drive, but being sRGB gives me hope it would also look ok on internet. Is this correct?
 
Jpegs should be sRGB, nothing else...
It sounds to me like either one of the programs in use isn't using the color management. Or, I think it's more likely that you are double managing somewhere... the only place the custom profile should be used is in the monitor display settings.
 
Display profiles are just that and should only be used for display.

It is very possible that your laptop will only support one display profile (LUT= Look Up Table) so only profile for one display to start, it is very likely your problems are occurring due to the wrong profile being used for the monitor you are using.

The profile of your image has nothing whatsoever to do with your display profile.

So... Profile and calibrate only your main editing screen. That will be your display profile and should not be used for anything else.

Your images can be in the sRGB, aRGB or ProPhoto colour spaces not a display colour space/profile.
 
Thank you @sk66 and @PhilH04 this was all very useful advice. However, i still did not manage to resolve the issue. What i did manage to establish is that the images which always looked ok, now viewed in standard windows viewer are much much darker and contrasty. Intrestingly when seen as large icons in windows explorer the darknes and contrast are normal. It is ONLY when viewed in windows viewer that they are wrong. When I open them in any other program, be it Capture One or Affinity Photo they dont suffer the same problem - they look ok.
The difference is big, generally darker, with shadows very very dark and much more contrast throughout.
Later i will post some screenshots of my settings, maybe this will help.
 
It sounds like the windows viewer isn't fully color managed and is ignoring the monitor profile. Also make sure your monitor profile is a V2 and not a V4 type. There's still a lot of issues with the implementation of V4 profiles.
 
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:agree:.... Capture One and Affinity will be profile aware so they will pick up your monitor profile and display images correctly. Windows viewer is obviously not profile aware or at least not v4 profile aware (I am on a Mac so not too sure with Windows).

Try checking in the calibration software preferences, I believe X-Rite defaults to v4 but you have the option to save as a v2.

Phil
 
@sk66 and @PhilH04 you are both legends!!! I re calibrated using v2 and all is perfect now. Thank you so much. The only issue I have now is that the Colormunki Display Tray does not work - hasn't worked before too. Simply does not start up when I click it. I would like it to work to change display profiles between my office work and photo editing profile, Any experience in this field? (windows 7)
 
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Pietrach said:
@sk66 and @PhilH04 you are both legends!!! I re calibrated using v2 and all is perfect now. Thank you so much. The only issue I have now is that the Colormunki Display Tray does not work - hasn't worked before too. Simply does not start up when I click it. I would like it to work to change display profiles between my office work and photo editing profile, Any experience in this field? (windows 7)
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I had this problem on my win 7 machine. and new colorMunki Display
It turned out to be my firewall..Zone alarm..
The Colour munki disply needs to contact home. so your Firewall application control needs to be set to trusted.
After I did this I had no further problems with the display tray

However at one time I did have problems with the screen correction not always being applied at start up, which is a known problem.
If you go to ----
computer/local disc C/ program files (x86)/ x-rite/ colour munki display/XRGamma

Then makeake shortcut to XRgamma, and move it to desk top.
Then If the correction to the screen is not made at start up, Double click the new XRgamma short cut and it will instantly operate.

Also make sure you have Updated the Colour Munki Display software, the copy that came with it is probably not the latest.
 
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Pietrach said:
Thanks @Terrywoodenpic
I followed your advice and now a new icon shows next to the clock on the right hand side, but of all its options the Tray option is greyed out for some reason.
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I would uninstall completely and do a new fresh install.
 
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